If I didn't like Oblivion..

[Greymantle]

Any chance I like Skyrim? I did like Morrowind if that helps.

[Brandybuck]

The two games have very different feels, so it's entirely possible you will. I played Oblivion first, and just couldn't get into it. But I loved Skyrim, and afterward I tried Oblivion again and liked it. AlsoI can't watch any Let's Play of Oblivion or Morrowind, but I love watching them for Skyrim. The reason for both is simply a difference in gameplay. I'm not saying one is better than the other, only that it's different enough that you can't the one by your dislike of the other.

[SilverSquid1810]

Skyrim is definitley better than Oblivion...more quests, weapons, armor, and better graphics and just a better sense of immersion. Definitley buy it, but buy the Legendary Edition...couple months back i made the mistake of just buying the main game..had to dish out 45 more dollars for DLC..

[SilverSquid1810]

Originally posted by Brandybuck:

The two games have very different feels, so it's entirely possible you will. I played Oblivion first, and just couldn't get into it. But I loved Skyrim, and afterward I tried Oblivion again and liked it. AlsoI can't watch any Let's Play of Oblivion or Morrowind, but I love watching them for Skyrim. The reason for both is simply a difference in gameplay. I'm not saying one is better than the other, only that it's different enough that you can't the one by your dislike of the other.

we commented at the exact same time..

[Urgh]

What didnt you like about Oblivion and what did you like about Morrowind?

[Grokdragon]

Skyrim is made to play smoother. Spell crafting is gone, but now there's armor forging and dual wielding weapons and magic alike. At the end of the day Skyrim runs like a dream but the changes are basically taking what changed from morrowind to oblivion and taking a step further.

[Greymantle]

Would you say Skyrim is more intuitive than Oblivion?

[Grokdragon]

Originally posted by Greymantle:

Would you say Skyrim is more intuitive than Oblivion?

yes

[Brassqund]

All depend what you don't like in oblivion...

[76561198151351549]

you will like skyrim i HATED oblivoin in he first few hours but i love skyrim one thing the quest log took a major upgrade not to metion how many quests there are.

[BBQSauce]

I'd wait for Christmas sales.

[Grokdragon]

Originally posted by =1=BBQsauce:

I'd wait for Christmas sales.

it's 75% off now, probably won't be lower at christmas

[Avatar1971]

If you have played and liked Fallout New Vegas then you would most likely enjoy Skyrim since it shares the perk style of leveling like that did, but in an even better way in my opinion. I have both Morrowind and Oblivion, but I do enjoy Skyrim more then the other games. Many ES fans love Morrowind the most, but after playing Skyrim, I just can't enjoy it or Oblivion like I used to. If you DL some HD textures to use in Skyrim that make it look fantastic, it makes it easier to immerse yourself in the world over many other games I have played. Overall for this game I feel the mod quality in general is much improved also. It is on sale, so if you have the $13.50 make sure you get the Legendary Edition that includes all the DLC with it, if you decide to give the game a spin.

[Greymantle]

The main thing I didn't like about Oblivion was I felt it had no direction at all. I don't want my hand held just felt Oblivion didn't do enough in that area. I also didn't like the level scaling in Oblivion.

[tonythegreat_dfol]

If you like having a billion meaningless quest and pre-k hand holding telling where to go then you will love skyrim. No idea how people compare fallout to skyrim, i guess if a slimiar leveling system is all it takes for one to believe a game is the same then you will love every game they made after said system was introduced.
I listened to the hype bought it and was insanely disappointed. If you like mindless gameplay you will love this game. HD texture mods? more like texture replacements almost all if not most are just different textures not higher polycount and if you need mods to enjoy a game something most be wrong with the base game.
If you like wow quest like mmo's skyrim is for you really takes out exploration before i went to an unexplored area of the map i had quest telling you all the caves in the game. Only about 2% of the books in the game have meaningful information outside of the man story so if you like reading a billion meaningless books which they call the "lore" of the game which feels pointless long before you get into them.
Difficultiy scaling trash. I like to play on the hardest difficulity and it does not scale well in this game to an insanely retarded degree that makes game features useless. On the harder difficulities don't even bother being a werewolf or a vampire because its a waste of time you will get one shot because your armor is not counted i mean horrible game design you will have to get mods to balence it out which again if you need mods to enjoy the game really something is wrong with the game itself.
I can go on for days but like i said if you don't have standards you will love this game many do...

[glovernor]

Originally posted by Greymantle:

The main thing I didn't like about Oblivion was I felt it had no direction at all. I don't want my hand held just felt Oblivion didn't do enough in that area. I also didn't like the level scaling in Oblivion.

If that's the main thing you didn't like about Oblivion then how in the HELL did you get through Morrowind? Something definitely doesn't add up here.


Also, as a summary of what Skyrim does better than Oblivion:

The combat is much more fluid, nicer visuals obviously, more varied environments (though you still get a lot of repetitive set pieces), the world feels more natural, more varied conversations, main quest line is pretty great, the AI is far better but still utter ♥♥♥♥.



As for a summary of what the downgrades are from Morrowind and Oblivion:

The RPG aspect has been almost completely stripped out in favor of a game that plays the exact same way every time regardless of what you do; so everyone can experience everything the game has to offer in one go.
Your character's build, attributes, skills and such have almost no effect on anything you do and there are notably almost no barriers of restriction in the game.

Seriously, they made it so that none of it ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ matters and this is the big one because it totally contradicts what a proper RPG is supposed to be.


But on top of that all of the guild questlines, save for the Companions (faction), absolutely SUCK.
The mages guild questline in Skyrim is still the single most anti-climactic and disappointing thing I've ever had to waste time on in a game; which is pretty ridiculous considering how great its counterparts were in Oblivion and Morrowind.

But beyond that "infinite quests" basically translates to endlessly generated fetch quests or the same few "random" encounters.
Spell crafting was also completely removed because rather than take the time to fix how horribly overpowered (yet ridiculously fun) it was in the previous games, Bethesda took the lazy way out and stripped it out altogether.

Even though Skyrim had a larger pool of assets to draw from for the environments you'll be much quicker to notice just how repetitive everything is and it's arguably worse than Oblivion in places.

And while the gameplay is a bit more varied it just straight up isn't as fun as Oblivion or Morrowind due to everything that was stripped out of the game in favor of something more streamlined. It's basically an open world action sandbox that tries to pretend it's an RPG and fails.
Kind of why I still find myself going back to ES 3 or 4 occasionally while I've long forgotten about this game.



Seriously, I want to know how you made it through Morrowind yet you had issues with Oblivion.