Why does 2h weapons sucks?

[Justice]

They don't deal enough damage compared to 1 handed weapins in terms damage per sec. Hard to defend it with it. 2h weapon are very bad against magers and dragons who use magers or dragon breath. And finaly they are even worse in crowd control.

[Delta 1038]

Hey you again! I'm waiting for you to complain about mages next!

[Justice]

Yeah, I hate magers a lot, even breton magic resistants doesn't helps a lot

[Delta 1038]

No but really, don't spam the forums. Anyway, I find 2h tanks are one of the easiest builds to go through the game.

Also

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3St9cJ3SfVs

[Justice]

I'm not spamming, I just posted 2 threads about 2 weapons and 2h weapons and I would like to know why they don't work for me well and maybe get advice or tips how to use these classes properly.

[Shrapnel]

Originally posted by Delta 1038:

No but really, don't spam the forums. Anyway, I find 2h tanks are one of the easiest builds to go through the game.

Also

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3St9cJ3SfVs

too late, he's asking the same question in two threads, I guess he'll take the better answer of the two. His problem is he dont know wtf he's doing in skyrim or in basic RPG combat so I suspect we'll see him again, and soon

[Delta 1038]

Originally posted by Shield of Fury:

I'm not spamming, I just posted 2 threads about 2 weapons and 2h weapons and I would like to know why they don't work for me well and maybe get advice or tips how to use this classes properly.

Hard to take it seriously when it runs down to "It suxx even though I admit I'm not veddy gewd".
But since you asked nicely.

2H weapons, yes they are slower than the ever popular sword & board fighting style (Which I assume you use), but I honestly find them more reliable in that I can do alot of damage quickly and I can stun my enemies in a single blow.

This is even more true when I fight like a German knight. Get used to heavy armour and shrug almost everything the game throws at you. Now as you mentioned, Ice Storm mages are a big problem but you can solve that by either engaging them in ranged combat, taking cover or dodging.

On cc, I don't see how sword & board are superior in it. With 2H, I can wipe them out very quickly before they become a problem.

[Rhuto]

Yea, it is not always the class or weapon that sucks, but more how we play it.

The worst thing you can do in a """"REAL RPG""" is to start to blame what you have, but you must rather start to investigate how you do it...how you develop your skill....what skill are important....what skill to wait with to later...and so on.

With weapon it is equal importent to know when to block....as when to strike...that need practise....with mages you need to develop your sneak skill as well as your magic skill...if not you will soon be shoot down in one hit...and so on...""Real RPG" is always slow process...the focus is never on the action itself...but the life and how you dela with thing.

Action RPG's are not REAL RPG..Strategy RPG are not real RPG...it has got inflation in the name RPG...they put in the option to adjust some figures and call it RPG....it makes a lot of people choose the wrong game for them self.

[Shrapnel]

Originally posted by Shield of Fury:

I would like to know why they don't work for me well and maybe get advice or tips how to use these classes properly.

Ahh, ok now *this* is more like it. Because I can tell you 2w and 2h definitely dont suck in Skyrim.

[Justice]

Originally posted by Delta 1038:

Originally posted by Shield of Fury:

I'm not spamming, I just posted 2 threads about 2 weapons and 2h weapons and I would like to know why they don't work for me well and maybe get advice or tips how to use this classes properly.

Hard to take it seriously when it runs down to "It suxx even though I admit I'm not veddy gewd".
But since you asked nicely.

2H weapons, yes they are slower than the ever popular sword & board fighting style (Which I assume you use), but I honestly find them more reliable in that I can do alot of damage quickly and I can stun my enemies in a single blow.

This is even more true when I fight like a German knight. Get used to heavy armour and shrug almost everything the game throws at you. Now as you mentioned, Ice Storm mages are a big problem but you can solve that by either engaging them in ranged combat, taking cover or dodging.

On cc, I don't see how sword & board are superior in it. With 2H, I can wipe them out very quickly before they become a problem.

Yeah, I'm using sword and shield figthing method. It give me many opportunities of what I can do with shield: I can simply defend myself, I can use it as weapon to bash enemy and stop their attacks or spells, beside that you can upgrate you shield to get 50% resistants against magic and level 100 - shield charge - So overpowered.
Arrow and bow are nice, but they don't work for me too well since I had bad accurate + stupid fps issues and even I try to taking cover from magers, but against multiple amount of enemies and especially in caverns - I had only 3-4 lucky shots till they reach to me and they would beat the crapp out of me.

[Delta 1038]

For my main playthrough, my character is a heavy armoured 2h Swordsman with a bow.

While it does not have the gamebreaking potential as the sword & board, it does get the job done. I actually prefer 2h over S&B because I get a lot of mobility in my fighting or rather, I that's how I like my fights.

In case you aren't aware, you can train your Blocking skills with 2h. It even benefits from bashing perks.

For your fps issues, do a search on this forums on that. We do have fixes which I can't name at the top of my head.

[Justice]

I don't think there is solution for my fps issue. I don't want to sacrifice graphics for a bit higher fps. It's enough to use sword combat and moving around, but kinda terrible for aiming.

[SpeedFreak1972]

another question: Why make 2 threads?

[Justice]

2 different styles, 2 different approaches for each style

[Ilja]

I gave one answer to dual wielding thread. Two handed is a bit different build, but I don't have enough lot of experience of it. I have always favored characters with light armors and weapons, such as mages, thieves, rangers, spell swords and spell bows.

The only knight type of character I have ever made was a paladin, so he was using one handed weapons + either shield or Restoration spell in left hand.

I will prattle about those mages instead.

Judging from the post above, when you comment about Breton resistances, I guess that you just are not moving enough around your enemies. Low level mages are also very fragile and they need something to distract enemies. Use either followers, Illusion spells or conjuration spells to create those distractions and you should be fine.

For example:

I was once travelling alone from College of Winterhold to Whiterun. I was attacked by bandits, but my illusion spells were still too weak to affect them and I didn't have Impact perk for Destruction spells. There was no way that I could have beaten them.

So I used Fury spells to goats around me. Animals attacked against bandits and distracted them long enough for me to fry them with my spells. Of course I then had to run around the glacier, while avoiding those angry goats, until Fury finally ended...

[Trigger]

You are a Milk-drinker, learn to run - that is your best defense