Gabe Newell Says Valve Will Dump Paid Mods If They're Bad for Gamers

[Cenith]

Opinions? How serious is he?

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/gabe-newell-says-valve-will-dump-paid-mods-if-they/1100-6426893/ [link to the article]

http://www.reddit.com/r/skyrim/comments/33we7e/gabe_newell_says_valve_will_dump_paid_mods_if/ [link to a post on r/skyrim]

Even just having this article out there will force him to stick to his word, imo.

[DeadMechGaming]

I give it a week, no change, no more cash from me.

[DeadMechGaming]

Цитата допису 💩 Pewp 💩:

What a total crap taken upon the heads of the modding community.

And because 5 modders claim its good, and 1000 people are trying to get stolen mods onto the market, people are actually defending it all over these forums.

I weep for humanity.

I lost faith in humans a long time ago, this just makes me hate them more.

[vic_viperman]

Цитата допису 💩 Pewp 💩:

What a total crap taken upon the heads of the modding community.

And because 5 modders claim its good, and 1000 people are trying to get stolen mods onto the market, people are actually defending it all over these forums.

I weep for humanity.

Especially when you consider that the main selling point of a game like Skyrim is what? When you recommended the game to someone, what did you say was the best part? THE ****ING MODS!!!!! Think about that.

How many more sales did the modding community hand to Bethesda and Valve vs what they woulda got sans mods? How many people bought the PC version over consoles because of mods? Then they turn around and do this crap. Disgusting.

[Xariot]

Цитата допису Xezbeth FTW:

Gabe Newell Says Valve Will Dump Paid Mods If They're Bad for Gamers

Who cares? Even if he did actually say that (apparently he didn't?) it means nothing. Who decides if paid mods are bad for gamers?

Valve will only dump paid mods if its bad for Valve.

In order for it to be bad for them people will have to make it bad for them cause otherwise they are laughing all the way to the bank.

[tatankasamoyed]

<Sarcasm alert>

Give Gabe some credit:

"If you are going to ascribe everything we do to being greedy, at least give us credit for being greedy long (value creation) and not greedy short (screwing over customers)."

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/33uplp/mods_and_steam/cqokyz4?context=3

It's either very late or very early in my part of the world, so too tired to recall the term but I suspect there's some fallacy involved here of admitting the truth by denying it--"not greedy short (screwing over customers)" lol.

[Cenith]

Цитата допису Hand's Hermit Permit:

You people need to understand, Valve are pioneers when it comes to gathering data and following it. Just as an example, they're the ones who see that you can actually make MORE money by having huge sales on games all the time whereas other publishing companies insist that you can't, and that it devalues the game.

They create their own extensive data-gathering tools. For TF2, they mapped out where everyone dies on the maps and adjust things accordingly. They're very detailed in everything they do.

Valve is data driven. If we don't buy these ♥♥♥♥♥♥ horse armor mods, and we keep up with the disapproval, they will probably back off of this practice.

Trust in the data though. Make the data. Don't buy the mods.

Make the Data - Don't buy the mods. I like it, it's good to hear this, I feel like we can still do this, we can still win this.

[Superior_Firepower]

" Our goal is to make modding better for the authors and gamers. If something doesn't help with that, it will get dumped. Right now I'm more optimistic that this will be a win for authors and gamers, but we are always going to be data driven." ----- I think this was the original quote everyone assumed meant he was going to dump paid mods altogether.

[Cenith]

Цитата допису Superiorfirepower:

" Our goal is to make modding better for the authors and gamers. If something doesn't help with that, it will get dumped. Right now I'm more optimistic that this will be a win for authors and gamers, but we are always going to be data driven." ----- I think this was the original quote everyone assumed meant he was going to dump paid mods altogether.

Thanks for that clarification, I can definitely see how that could be taken in multiple different directions. We'll just have to hope for the best.

[Aphex]

"Valve Will Dump Paid Mods If they don't make enough cash"

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[I Love Emma Stone]

Цитата допису Doctor Plague:

Doesn't matter. Damage is done.

Exactly right.

[Cenith]

Цитата допису Aphex:

"Valve Will Dump Paid Mods If they don't make enough cash"

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Got a smile out of me, haha

[Superior_Firepower]

Цитата допису Aphex:

"Valve Will Dump Paid Mods If they don't make enough cash"

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"Think of money as information. The community directing money flows works for the same reason that prediction markets crush pundits." ----> This quote of his is pretty telling.

[TheGoodFella]

all this hate and i bet plp are still buying these mods, steam will just keep dodging questions until the hate dies down then they will bring this to other games. i wouldnt even be angry at this if steam wasnt taking 75% profit like the greedy ♥♥♥♥♥ they are, modders wont abanded their jobs to do modding full time for a measley 25%, we will be getting the same quality of mods like always but we will just be paying for it

[Dewguru]

Цитата допису Superiorfirepower:

There was another thread on this not 20 minutes ago.

GabeN never actually SAID it. It was merely implied from his "I will look at data" stance.

And the data will be how many items are getting bought, which if some of the numbers are correct, are a lot higher than I thought they'd be.

[DeadMechGaming]

Цитата допису Dewguru:

Цитата допису Superiorfirepower:

There was another thread on this not 20 minutes ago.

GabeN never actually SAID it. It was merely implied from his "I will look at data" stance.

And the data will be how many items are getting bought, which if some of the numbers are correct, are a lot higher than I thought they'd be.

Still low if you think about it. The most was 1077 subs at $2.99 a sub. Thats about $3k profits. subtract the percents and thats honestly not much money that the comoany is making compared to overall sales. This project will die quickly if tey want to keep their real profit margins up.