No Way to Do Ungrien Speech Leveling Ever Again?

[Revynn]

I know patch 1.9 fixed it, and apparently it is now the official version, but is there any way to unfix this? Has anyone heard of any mods for it?

Speech is the one part of this game that I cannot bear to spend time on. And the resto loop...call me stupid, but I just canèt get it to work properly. I get items up to a fairly high value and then they reset or it seems like they start decreasing in value as I continue repeating, so I would rather not go that route. I dont get the unlimited increase. I just want to get speech out of the way right away!

[Brandybuck]

So you just want a way to level speech without cheating? But exploits ARE cheating! That's why it was fixed.

There are other ways to legitimately level your speech. Buying and selling. The higher the price the more experience, but it's easiest to just not sell in bulk. Selling one arrow at a time is grindy, but it does work slowly but surely. Another way is to find the speech trainers (hint, look in the Bard's College). Or get yourself arrested for petty crimes, then persuade the guard to let you go. Etc.

[Dexter]

Leveling speechcraft is not that hard. There are alot of intimidation/persuassion speech challenges.

All you need is Masque of Clavicus Vile and/or an Amulet of Dibella. Wear them pass the challenges and level up your speechcraft.

[Revynn]

Alright, so 2 for the condescending and berating comments. Anyone want to answer the original question? ;)

Maybe I should rephrase the question to *Is there any way to play the game without the patches?* That way people wouldnt be compelled to tell me how I should play a single-player offline game.


So Ill ask instead: Is there a way to play the game without patch 1.9? Or a mod that can undo that one fix?

[gnewna]

No, as far as I know you can't play the game without the latest patch as Steam automatically includes it and the DLC and quite a lot of mods require it as a master - without it, and with the DLC and/or those mods, you'll CTD on startup.

I don't think there's a mod that adds the glitch back to Ungrien, but there are various mods that let you level speech more quickly, on the Workshop there's Perkless Speech which puts a book somewhere in the world (probably Riverwood, that's where the lockpicking one lives) which sets your Speech to 100 and unlocks all perks. There's also, if you don't want all the perks or want something less cheat-y, Become a Bard which lets you perform in taverns to earn a few septims and every two or three performances you get a speech skill point (I think it's about that, probably slows down as your skill increases).

On the Nexus there's a few mods that immediately set your speech to 100, without the perks, AFAICT they're just a little script that does the same as using the console to set your skill level. There's also one that increases how quickly you level speech, so you still have to do the normal speechy things, but it'll level you either a bit quicker, or up to 100x quicker. If you google "skyrim speech leveling mod" you'll probably get some results.

[SpeedFreak1972]

Or just sell the living daylight to the khajiit