After i use LOOT crash my game.

[Wolferus]

After I used LOOT to sort my load order, Skyrim crashes wen i try to open the magic menu or favorites menu.

PLS HELP ME. I WILL PLAY SKYRIM ANNYMOR
(i have over 200 mods aktiv. is to long to list all her. but when u need then give i u the list.)

im from germany. and my english ist not the best.

[SpeedFreak1972]

Well without list we can't tell anything really ... did loot give errors? or remarks?

[Wolferus]

my mod list:

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm
•Warning: Contains 92 ITM records and 3 UDR records. Clean with TES5Edit.


Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

Dawnguard.esm
•Warning: Contains 619 ITM records, 82 UDR records and 57 deleted navmeshes. Clean with TES5Edit.

HearthFires.esm
•Warning: Contains 184 ITM records, 11 UDR records and 5 deleted navmeshes. Clean with TES5Edit.

Dragonborn.esm
•Warning: Contains 61 ITM records, 8 UDR records and 1 deleted navmeshes. Clean with TES5Edit.

Evil Lair of Hydra.esm

AP Skyrim.esm

ApachiiHair.esm

ApachiiHairFemales.esm

paradise_halls.esm

wyrmstooth.esp

mxdemoncrossbow.esp

cco - diverse races and genders.esp

dhuntress.esp

aod - fullplate.esp

caliente's beautiful bodies edition.esp

cco - dynamic skill progression.esp

ts_ecatsuit&ballet.esp

unlimitedbookshelves.esp
•Warning: Contains 36 ITM records and 59 UDR records. Clean with TES5Edit.

a quality world map - with roads.esp

ts_slickarmour.esp

betterfemalesbybellamakeup3.esp

more dragons.esp

clamsgivepearls.esp

character creation overhaul.esp

coloredmarkers.esp

betterfemalesbybella.esp

azarhair.esp

bardsoundsmalukah.esp

ash pile expiration.esp
•Error: 삭제하십시오. 이미 Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp에 포함되어 있습니다.

barenziahquestmarkers.esp

enhanceddistantterrain.esp

betterfemalesbybellamakeup4.esp

rrhair3.esp

useablesawmill.esp

smarter combat ai.esp

better embers.esp

dynamic fires.esp

luminescent luna moths.esp

ts_whitewardrobe.esp

betterfemalesbybellamakeup2.esp

better dynamic snow.esp

ts_phreddress1.esp

dd - realistic ragdoll force - realistic.esp

arvakskull-marker.esp

calientevanillaarmor - banditpack curvy.esp

ts_rogueoutfits.esp

adventurersandtravelers.esp

lpsleep.esp

when vampires attack.esp

dd-no spinning death animation.esp

cco - oblivion carry weights.esp

cbbecurvy.esp

deadlyspellimpacts.esp

infinitechargesfordaedricartifactsdragonborn.esp

chopping_block_wood_fires.esp
•Error: Delete. Fixed in Bethesda's official update February 2013.

all killable.esp

mxlevelupallperks.esp

cleaner_castlevolkihar3.esp

betterinns.esp
•Warning: This file contains 1 deleted NavMesh record(s) that TES5Edit cannot repair automatically and it may cause problems with your game. NavMesh deletions should be reported to the mod author. A guide to repairing NavMesh deletions with TES5Edit is located here.

ts_fetishwardrobe_femalebodysize.esp

chesko_wearablelantern.esp

kkdawnguardskimpyreplacer.esp

dginvestedmagic.esp

digitigradekhajiit.esp

kkskimpyclothes.esp

dragonboneweaponscomplete.esp

drsknapsacks.esp

hdplants+herbs.esp

ts_fetishwardrobe.esp

ts_fetishaccessories.esp

betterfemalesbybellamakeup1.esp

wetandcold.esp

dragonhiderobearmor.esp

faster vanilla horses.esp

auto unequip ammo.esp

followers_stealthkills.esp

3 day respawn 1.1.esp

hornsareforever.esp

followerwander2.esp

gsr_ww_meter.esp

guard dialogue overhaul.esp

hqworkbenchandgrindstone.esp

ts_whitepantyhosedress1.esp

hq_skyrimmap.esp

bones and skeletons retexture.esp

mxtrueblood.esp

improvedskillbooks.esp

infinitechargesfordaedricartifactsdawnguard.esp

karifollower.esp

kkdrbreplacer.esp

lighterdragonitems.esp

lightweight potions and poisons.esp

loud waterfalls.esp

undead races.esp

lovelyhairstylesce.esp

loverstonexpbonus.esp

mxwerewolfcrystal.esp

Skyrim Unlimited Rings And Amulets.esp

lusciousfaces.esp

sleeptight.esp

marriagedynamicoutfits.esp

mintylightningmod.esp

moonpath_tp.esp

schwertleite set.esp

moresmeltables.esp

xce.esp

Sexy Armor Replacer Patch.esp

mxbloodybladesarmor.esp

mxfasterhorses.esp




mxgandalfset.esp




mxmjtexvampfix.esp




wetandcold - ashes.esp






mxringoffire.esp




skyui.esp






mxvampirecrystal.esp




nocturnal robes.esp




ts_redslickbikini.esp




PAHAPDialoguePatcher.esp


•Warning: Contains 2 ITM records. Clean with TES5Edit.


tjautosave.esp




prometheus_no_snow_under_the_roof.esp




distant detail.esp


•Error: Use Distant DetailHF.esp


birds.esp



•Warning: Contains 376 ITM records and 2 UDR records. Clean with TES5Edit.


birdshf.esp





lanterns of skyrim - all in one.esp




purewaters.esp






races_skulls_sp0.esp




1collectors1.esp




crimsonquestmarkers.esp




sos - the wilds.esp





•Warning: Contains 8 ITM records. Clean with TES5Edit.


realrainbwvanilla.esp






immersive interiors.esp






delphine.esp




art_orc_sp0.esp




betterdarkbrotherhood.esp


•Warning: This file contains 2 deleted NavMesh record(s) that TES5Edit cannot repair automatically and it may cause problems with your game. NavMesh deletions should be reported to the mod author. A guide to repairing NavMesh deletions with TES5Edit is located here.


a tale of tongues - nordic unbound.esp




kids adopt.esp




a tale of tongues - nordic edition.esp




sos - civilization.esp







helgenrebuilt.esp


•Warning: This file contains 3 deleted NavMesh record(s) that TES5Edit cannot repair automatically and it may cause problems with your game. NavMesh deletions should be reported to the mod author. A guide to repairing NavMesh deletions with TES5Edit is located here.
•Warning: Contains 103 ITM records and 15 UDR records. Clean with TES5Edit.


blaze of eventide.esp




multfollow.esp






saadia.esp




betterdawnguard.esp




rainbows.esp






whistle.esp




realistic lighting.esp




rrhair.esp




rrhair2.esp




rrhairargonian.esp




rrhairkhajiit.esp




saturationboost.esp




deeper snow.esp




wyrmstoothtravelcrashhotfix.esp




spells cast light.esp




splashofrain.esp






test01.esp




steelmaiden.esp




the dance of death - dawnguard edition.esp


•Warning: Use either The Dance of Death.esp or The Dance of Death - Dawnguard Edition.esp, not both.
•Warning: Contains 7 ITM records. Clean with TES5Edit.


the dance of death.esp


•Warning: Dawnguard detected. Use The Dance of Death - Dawnguard Edition.esp instead.
•Warning: Contains 7 ITM records. Clean with TES5Edit.


ts_frillyoutfit.esp




ts_malukah.esp




ts_rogueoutfits2.esp




ts_slinkyleotard.esp




ts_valkyrie1.esp




zx hands.esp




ts_valkyrie2.esp




ts_xinphheels.esp




unlimitedenchantments.esp




ts_whipcane.esp




sos - the dungeons.esp







marriagemod - alpha v3.esp




waves.esp


•Warning: Plugin has some corruption. A version fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here. (Fixed version
•Warning: Contains 189 ITM records. Clean with TES5Edit.


crimson tide - blood.esp




dd - enhanced blood main.esp





hunting in skyrim - no perks.esp






viceroyinquisitor.esp





bettermorthal.esp


•Warning: This file contains 1 deleted NavMesh record(s) that TES5Edit cannot repair automatically and it may cause problems with your game. NavMesh deletions should be reported to the mod author. A guide to repairing NavMesh deletions with TES5Edit is located here.


moredragonlairs!.esp




townsandcitiesenhanced.esp


•Warning: Contains 18 ITM records. Clean with TES5Edit.


extra encounters - dragonborn.esp






morevillageanimals.esp





wildlife_overhaul.esp




dawnguard sentries.esp




dovahkiinpalace.esp




ultimate perk overhaul.esp




art_woodelf_sp0.esp




art_darkelf_sp0.esp




a tale of tongues - standard unbound.esp




a tale of tongues - standard.esp




reducedshouttimes.esp


•Warning: Contains 5 ITM records. Clean with TES5Edit.


duel - combat realism.esp


•Warning: Contains 7 ITM records. Clean with TES5Edit.


trolls loot.esp


•Warning: Contains 3 ITM records. Clean with TES5Edit.


multifollowerlite.esp




pickpocket 100 chance cap.esp




stranger_danger.esp




hunter's discipline - 100%.esp




nereva02.esp




markarth_plus.esp


•Warning: Contains 37 ITM records and 28 UDR records. Clean with TES5Edit.


point the way.esp






seasonsfortress01.esp




breezehomelightfix.esp


•Error: 삭제하십시오. 이미 Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp에 포함되어 있습니다.


marriable serana.esp






floraofwinterholdcollege.esp




more enemies.esp




underwater_treasure.esp


•Warning: Contains 18 ITM records and 3 UDR records. Clean with TES5Edit.


quest_nomercy.esp




unlimited amulets and rings 0.1.esp






wildhorses.esp




extra encounters reborn - csp.esp




higherlevelenemies.esp






higherlevelenemies_dawnguard.esp




immersive patrols ii.esp




rose.esp




levelingmerchantswallets.esp






enhancedgameplay-extendedwe.esp




dragonsoulstoperks.esp




candlelightring.esp




dragon tomb.esp




prvti_heavyarmory_dragonborn.esp




merchant gold increase.esp




betterdawnstar.esp




bettermarkarthexterieur.esp




infinitedaedricchargesbyfioran.esp




stronger daedric artifacts.esp




alpha werewolf.esp




nalliafollower.esp






prvti_heavyarmory_dg_addon.esp






sexy crafting merchants.esp




khajiit-mara.esp




montures monstres.esp




0dragonvaultnotop.esp




lindacomp.esp






betterfire.esp




bondolf a rich merchant.esp




alessia.esp






modruby.esp




ts_hairnheels_compilation.esp




ts_fallenangels3.esp




ts_fallenangels2.esp




breezehomelightingfix.esp


•Error: 삭제하십시오. 이미 Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp에 포함되어 있습니다.


cco - permanent birthsigns.esp


•Warning: Contains 24 UDR records. Clean with TES5Edit.


enhancedlightingforrealisticlighting.esp




miravel.esp




tavewindhelm.esp


•Warning: Contains 12 ITM records and 2 UDR records. Clean with TES5Edit.


morganfollower.esp






tavesolitude.esp


•Warning: Contains 14 ITM records and 1 UDR records. Clean with TES5Edit.


tavevillages.esp


•Warning: This file contains 1 deleted NavMesh record(s) that TES5Edit cannot repair automatically and it may cause problems with your game. NavMesh deletions should be reported to the mod author. A guide to repairing NavMesh deletions with TES5Edit is located here.
•Warning: Contains 15 ITM records. Clean with TES5Edit.


midasskyrim.esp


•Warning: Original file was released before the Creation Kit (07 Feb. 2012) an update to the previous compatibility patch fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here. Compatibility Patch


whiteruninenhanced.esp


•Warning: Contains 18 ITM records. Clean with TES5Edit.


spellsgalore.esp




chesko_frostfall.esp




hearthfiresenhanced.esp




hearthfiresupplies.esp




populated prisons.esp


•Warning: Contains 7 ITM records and 14 UDR records. Clean with TES5Edit.


sofiafollower.esp




vampireoverhaul.esp




op_vampir.esp




midas magic expanded.esp




smithingextended.esp






arrowsmith-dawnguard.esp




ts_fetishpantyhoseoutfits.esp




quest_sorcery.esp




quest_andtherealmsofdaedra.esp




bettercitiesnewfarm.esp


•Warning: Contains 1 ITM records and 1 UDR records. Clean with TES5Edit.


cassandra.esp






lpbards.esp




lpbardsanduniel.esp




dragonbone weapons loot.esp




drop_skulls_sp0ckrates.esp




nature of the beast.esp





paradise_halls_farengars_study.esp




dragonscalespecies.esp




riverwoodenhancedplugin.esp


•Warning: Contains 4 ITM records and 5 UDR records. Clean with TES5Edit.


whiterunexenhanced.esp


•Warning: Contains 9 ITM records and 6 UDR records. Clean with TES5Edit.


increasedlootinchests1.0.esp




bettercitiesdocksolitude.esp


•Warning: Contains 1 ITM records. Clean with TES5Edit.


flyabledragons.esp




moss rocks.esp




soy's vampire perks dg.esp




strongvampirelord.esp




karlos_007_allow_vampire.esp




smithing redesigned - db.esp




arrowsmith.esp






more hair colors.esp




art_nord_sp0.esp




defaultgamers_better_werewolf.esp




abundant enchantments.esp




engineering.esp




soul_fusion.esp




mxsnowelf.esp




art_imperial_sp0.esp




newplaceddawnguard.esp




AP Skyrim-Dev.esp




taveriften.esp


•Warning: Contains 13 ITM records and 2 UDR records. Clean with TES5Edit.


mxmjhideaway.esp




betterwinterhold.esp




more carriages.esp




paradise_halls_fellglow_slave_camp.esp




armored-horses.esp




horsesignorecombat.esp




prometheus_beastskeletons.esp




isilnarsil.esp


•Warning: Contains 17 ITM records. Clean with TES5Edit.


mxdemonictestingpreview.esp




extra encounters - hsr.esp




extra encounters reborn - basic.esp




extra encounters.esp




extra encounters - dawnguard.esp






hg.esp




mxdemonicracepreview.esp




extra encounters reborn - hsr.esp




mxtorturechamber.esp




extra encounters reborn - dawnguard.esp




tavewhiterunlite.esp




the paarthurnax dilemma.esp






detailed outskirts.esp




tavefalkreath.esp


•Warning: Contains 3 ITM records. Clean with TES5Edit.


dragonpriestmaskquestmarkers.esp




named_dragon_skulls_sp0.esp




race+.esp




enhancedhighhrothgarbymat.esp


•Warning: Contains 2 ITM records. Clean with TES5Edit.


everyvampireeyesgrow.esp





change_children_to_adult.esp




stealfromchildren.esp




raptor follower.esp




private_nokillblur_test.esp




bome-divorce.esp




mxschadenfreude.esp




ApachiiHelmetWigs.esp






battleflute.esp




mxaequitas.esp




mxbluehorse.esp




mxdemonicarmoredhorse.esp


•Warning: Contains 1 ITM records. Clean with TES5Edit.


mxdemonichorse.esp




mxgullfaxi.esp




mxharith.esp




mxorangehorseoffire.esp




mxrainbowdash.esp




mxskinfaxi&hrimfaxi.esp




mxsvaoilfari.esp




mxthunderdasharmored.esp




pinkiepie.esp




arrowsstick.esp




realistic piercing arrows.esp




caroline.esp






clyde.esp




fox12 armor.esp




montyxdg4hota.esp




moredragonloot.esp




mx4hota.esp




mx4hotaa.esp




mxbloodfiendmane.esp




mxruin.esp




mxsiphan.esp




mxskeletalfrostmane.esp




mxskeletalschadenfreude.esp




mxskeletalsvaoilfari.esp




warchiefarmor.esp




ts_succubusfollowerptii.esp




ts_slickmonsters.esp




ts_succubusfollower.esp




marrymywife.esp




hot carlsv1.esp




art_redguard_sp0.esp




art_khajiit_sp0.esp




art_argonian_sp0.esp




argoniantints.esp




az argonian vampire no color change.esp




art_highelf_sp0.esp




ktxcompleteskyforge.esp




ts_angels.esp




wood elf speed.esp

wyrmstoothmapmarkerhotfix.esp

[Braden]

Originally posted by Thumbcramp:

Game crashes, thinks LOOT is the reason...stopped reading lol

I have never had it crash my game but it has glitched it, I only use it when I need to.

[400g]

Dein Modliste ist, mit den ganzen leerzeilen, verdammt schwer zu lesen.

Ich hab nur kurz drübergeschaut, aber schon ein paar fehler gefunden:
the dance of death.esp kann weg weil du hast schon die dawnguard version installiert hats. Du hast da praktisch 2 mal die selbe mod installiert, nur eben in 2 Versionen.

midasskyrim.esp und waves.esp sind veraltet, letztere kommt sogar noch aus einer Zeit als es das CK noch nicht gab. Das ist schon fast Antik. Diese beiden unbedingt auf den neusten Stand bringen.
Ausserdem solltest Du die Liste mal genau durchgehen und alle Sachen machen die Loot dir vorschlägt.

Wenn du mit dem Englischen von Loot probleme hast versuche die Modliste mal zum download bereitzustellen. Dann schau ich sie mir mal genauer an.
Hochladen kannst du die hier: http://workupload.com/

[Wolferus]

mein problem ist nicht nicht das die mods nicht gehen sondern das ich mein magie menu (und favoriten) nicht mehr öffnen kann seit der neue loadorder von LOOT. deswegen. ich wurde die gerne wieder auf die alte loadorder stellen aber das geht nicht D,:

(die modlist hatte ich reinkopiert deswegen die leerzeichen, weil selber 200+ mods aufzuschreiben wurde zu lange dauern ^^)

[400g]

Das Magiemenü geht nicht weil sich irgendwo 2 mods nicht vertragen. Das werden 2 mods sein die beide etwas mit Magie zu tun haben.

Wenn du es noch nicht hast, lade dir Wyre bash herunter. Damit kannst du die Loadorder deiner Saves sehen. Das wiederherstellen wirst du aber von Hand machen müssen. Mit strg+Pfeiltasten kannst du markierte Mod verschieben.
http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/1840/?

[Wolferus]

danke ich werde es versuchen

[400g]

The Problem in this case is, that the Loadorder was changed in a running Game, that can cause problems. When mod a wins in the first place, and after sorting mod b wins it ctd's because mod a is somewhere in the save.

Better to sort loadorder before starting a new game. If it's sorted in the first place it is unlikely that the order changes much if a new mod is added midgame.

[On Vacation]

Hmmm...so taking a brief glance here is what I see....

CCO patches are loading before the main file

Dance of Death you are using two esp's when you should only be using one.

Running both Extra Encounters (outdated version) and Extra Encounters Reborn (updated version)....and patches are loading before main file in both cases

enhancedlightingforrealisticlighting, may need to load after realistic lighting (not familiar with mod)


No snow under the roof, needs to load after better dynamic snow, and you're missing the patch to run both without conflicts.

Not sure what distantdetail you're using, but it's not the same esp I got from downloading via Nexus.

A tale of tongues, nordic and standard edition are not compatible per the author's Steam notes. (nordic already includes all the changes of standard + more). You also shouldn't use standard edition/unbound of norid as, the only difference is standard keeps shout cooldowns, unbound removes them. Also if you use unbound, there's no point in using reduced shouttimes.esp

There's a whole lot of esp's I don't recognize, but judging from the few I could point out immediately, I'd say you need to go back and read the pages for compatibilites/patches. I'm kind of surprised to be honest that it ran prior to being sorted assuming all these esp's are activated.

[★Kelvy★]

•Error: 삭제하십시오. 이미 Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp에 포함되어 있습니다.

Where are the unofficial patches

[PorcusGrunzus]

Too many mods dude... Reduce to ones you only need. I need like 10...
No wonder the game is unstable. And use unofficial patches.

[On Vacation]

It's not that it's too many, as you can run any amount of mod's (merging etc makes 255+ possible), but you just have to keep some things in mind, when doing so and the more you install the more work you're likely to have to put in doing conflict resolution with Tes5 and of course there are limitations to the game engine so you don't want to download every script heavy mod out there.

Personally, OP, I'd recommend going with guides that have detailed instructions already (if you want many mod's with as few conflicts as possible), such as STEP or SRLE, then taking a look at the other packs that have been made. That way you get a better idea of load order, conflict resolution, how over rides work, cleaning mods, merging esps, using a bashed patch etc. Doing so will give you a better idea on how to create a functioning environment if you choose to deviate from the guides at a later date. That's just my take on it though.

[Ilja]

Most of those errors actually point out that you have overlapping mods for bugs already fixed in Unofficial Skyrim Patch that you have. You are lacking DLC patches. Using them is recommended, but missing files should not cause crashes, unless one of your mods requires them as a master.

It is likely that your game crash, because USKP (no placed properly) was previously overwriting those obsolete mods. Now you have old ans broken scripts overwriting required new ones and that is (if not the definite reason then at least a part of) the problem.

You also seem to have at least 1 mod with file corruption and that needs to be reinstalled.

Originally posted by Postal Dude:

Too many mods dude... Reduce to ones you only need. I need like 10...

My list of mods has currently 201 entries and load order 205 items.
Game is stable.

[Eru]

Don't think anyone has said this, and it might seem stupid, but did you already press 'edit metadata'? I never did, and was wondering why my game stopped working.

[ShyOmission]

JFC that's a lot of mods, mate.

You need to delete the following, either because it's a direct conflict, or it's unessesary:
chopping_block_wood_fires.esp - uncessecary.
distant detail.esp - you need Distant DetailHF.esp instead.
the dance of death.esp - You have two versions installed, you can only have one, keep the dawngaurd one.
breezehomelightfix.esp - appears to conflict with the Skyrin Unofficial patch.
ash pile expiration.esp - appears to conflict with the Skyrin Unofficial patch.


Corrupted or old plugins, that you should re-download:
waves.esp
midasskyrim.esp

Mods with missing parts, that should be deleted or redownloaded and reinstalled:
betterinns.esp - 1 Missing navmesh
betterinns.esp - 2 missing navmeshes.
betterinns.esp - 3 missing navmeshes.
betterinns.esp - 1 missing navmesh.
betterinns.esp - 1 missing navmesh.

I mean, this isn't even the beginning of your problems, It seems that there are some things that aren't loaded in a proper order.

My first suggestion? Update all mods, delete ones that are known to cause conflicts, retry game. IF that doesn't work, disable half of your mods, retry. If that doesn't work, re-enabled the half you disabled, and disable the other half.
When you find out what half is causing the immediate crash, re-enable mods one by one until you find the one that causes the crashing.
I don't mean to actually play the game, just see if Skyrim even starts.

And LOOT is very, very unlikely to be the cause of your crashing.