Help! Ulfric & Tullius Missing?

[Roanark]

At season unending where I need to get a treaty worked out for the war. Problem is both Ulfric and Tullius don't exist. At all.
Rikke (sp?) runs through her dialougue as if Tullius is there without pauses in between seperate conversations.
Looked it up but the only fix suggested was usuing console commands to bring them back but it seems like that doesn't help long term and creates bugs with civil war and other quests. Need help.

[Ilja]

Did you fast travelto High Hrothgar? Game has a well known bug, when characters that are supposed to be there are still in their way, but the event can be started without them. This is often caused, when you fast travel to a location and start the scene, before all characters have been considered as arrived.

If game is behaving like missing characters are talking, instead of crashing to desktop, then they are talking - just not there. Tullius can still be in half way of the mountain, or just leaving from Solitude - and having his dialogue there.

Load a previous save. If Ulfric and Tullius haven't arrived, then either usa wait option or do a quick fast travel somewhere else, so that area has time to set all characters in place.

[necro]

Are you by chance using Alternate Start - Live Another Life? Because if you are, then they're supposed to be AWOL until you've fought your first dragon at the Whiterun guard tower.

[Ilja]

Originally posted by tonyrayvick:

Are you by chance using Alternate Start - Live Another Life? Because if you are, then they're supposed to be AWOL until you've fought your first dragon at the Whiterun guard tower.

*Krhm*
How do you get in to treaty part of the game in LAL, without first killing the dragon at the Western guard tower?

It does not alter main questline, just the start and triggers around it.

[★Kelvy★]

Mods on? remove (deactivate) any that relate to civil war

[Roanark]

They aren't even at their locations to ask them to come to the mountain. I even reverted back to a slightly earlier save a quest or two back and they still were not there.
I do have Live Another Life. However as already said I'm WAY past the first dragon.
I do have a fair amount of mods. Nothing that I know of that should affect the civil war, though.

[Ilja]

As said, if there is a pause when they are supposed to speak and others continue as they did, then they did make their speeches. Where on the world they might be is another question.

Something might have affected to their AI packs. Strange.

Try to make a solid save and use console command to transport your self to them. At least we would know where they are and what they are doing, if it is succesfull.

player.moveto <RefID>

Tullius: 000198BA
Ulfric: 0001B131

[Roanark]

There were not pauses. Rikke ran through all her dialougue without pause. It was strange.
I had to use commands to get them back. Except I moved them to me (while being at their respective locations) and it worked. Tullius has not vanished since but Ulfric did and I had to do so again. Not sure if he's stayed since as I haven't done much yet but hopefully I've sorted out the problem for this save.

[LT-A03]

Easy fix
Use the console command "prid" and their IDs to select them
Then use "enable"
Jobs a good un!

[Roanark]

Originally posted by Luke:

Easy fix
Use the console command "prid" and their IDs to select them
Then use "enable"
Jobs a good un!

It was a mod issue. I don't remember what it was but I got it fixed within the week. Thanks, though.