Delphine breaking with what mods? (Fellow modders Help Discussion)

[Fion]

(In construction and constantly updating)

If anyone has any information on a mod that breaks a quest character like Delphine add it in below in the comments!

So before any mods are talked about I found what broke Delphine from the start of my games and ongoing and that was Reborn followers. Phew! 4 days to figure this out with over 5 reinstalls!


This is going to be used as a help discussion. Maybe somebody got it to, and they need to see what it was that made the problem.

When starting a new game with all this turned on. With the script folder with installed SKSE.
I have had her breaking constantly. (Now solved with finding it was "Reborn Followers" http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/28548/?tab=1&navtag=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nexusmods.com%2Fskyrim%2Fajax%2Fmoddescription%2F%3Fid%3D28548%26preview%3D&pUp=1


Fifth reinstall now. Test going well and it seems to be one of the mods using FNIS or one of the Immersive mods. (Immersive Armors and Weapons) I highly suspect these to be the culprits. (Turned out to be a simple follower mod)

The bug I am getting? When you try and talk to Delphine, all she says is "Hmm?". No dialogue or anything. Shes just broken. How broken? She does not do any of her normal routines, doesn't talk to her helper. She just stands still just looking at things. Doesn't talk or respond to anyone.

And the thing is, it does this with many of my mods on. All to their latest versions. Everything latest build and patches. Did it with and without TESVEDIT. She worked with both with no mods. I have no idea which mods are breaking her. (Got far in this one) Something is causing her to break but I don't know yet. Even got rid of FNIS. Still broken.

Skyrim.esm=1
Update.esm=1
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp=1
Dawnguard.esm=1
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp=1
HearthFires.esm=1
Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp=1
Dragonborn.esm=1
Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp=1
-------------------------------------------------(Worked above when everything was turned off and the scripts folder was removed) (Something in scripts I think is the main problem but acts like its random) (Some work in it, then randomly break her again?)

(Mods in this order)
hornsareforever.esp=1
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp=1
dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp=1
The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp=1
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(Uninstalled this in its all. Was not breaking Delphine)
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Dragon Soul Relinquishment.esp=1
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(None of these broke her)
dovahkiinrelax.esp=1
V740T_MGolDinS&M.esp=0
DrSKnapsacks.esp=1
BarenziahQuestMarkers_Droppable.esp=1 (Just .esp)


(uses scripts thought it was this at a point, but nope. Uninstalled this Delphine still broke)
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UnlimitedBookshelves.esp=1
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Uses .bsa's and .esp's. No scripts folders. (None of these broke her)
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SabreFurBag.esp=1
Chesko_WearableLantern.esp=1
CraftableClothes.esp=1 (Armor mod)
LordOfWar_TW2.esp=1 (Armor mod)
MedievalArmory.esp=1 (Armor mod)
MIDFollowMeCloser.esp=1 (Just makes followers follow closer. was not the problem no scripts)
Plate Armours - Credo.esp=1 (Armor mod)
Reduced Distance NPC Greetings.esp=1
W2_HelmetPack-2.esp=1 (Armor mod)
W2_HelmetPack.esp=1 (Armor mod)
Shields_of_the_northern_kingdoms.esp=1
TH3WICK3D1-NorthernKingdomsHeavyPlate.esp=1 (Armor mod)
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(Had this off and she still broke. Because of something in the script folder?)
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Cloaks.esp=1
1nivWICCloaks.esp=1
1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp=1
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(Uses scripts but tested with them out of the scripts folder. Delphine still broken)
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Dr_Bandolier.esp=1
Dr_BandolierDG.esp=1
BandolierForNPCMasterFile.esp=1
BandolierForNPCs.esp=1
BandolierForNPCsWIC_V2.esp=1
BandolierForNPCsCloaksOfSkyrim.esp=1
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(These did not break her)
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Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp=1
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp=1
RegentSword.esp=1
Immersive Weapons.esp=1
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(Does not use scripts) 
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Follower Pack I.esp=1
Follower Pack II.esp=1
Follower Pack III.esp=1
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Whiterun Guard Followers.esp=1
argoniansmore.esp=1
ImperialFollowers.esp=1
Convenient Horses.esp=1
UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp=1
UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp=1
UFO - Heartfire AddOn.esp=1
UFO - Dragonborn AddOn.esp=1
UFO - AllwaysDrawWeapons.esp=1
marriagedynamicoutfits.esp=1
My Home Is Your Home.esp=1
FollowerWander2.esp=1
FollowerWander2Serana.esp=1
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(Uses lots of scripts but when all removed or this mod is uninstalled Delphine is still broken)
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JNL - Lots More Followers.esp=1
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( I am thinking this broke her)
Reborn Followers.esp=1
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(Follower mods that don't use the scripts folder. Just .Bsa's and .esp's) (these were on and Delphine worked without the script folder)
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4 new followers - khajiits [Mittgang] v1.1.esp=1
khajiitmore.esp=1
argonianlove.esp=1
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(Uninstalled she still broke)
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Equipping Overhaul.esp=1
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SkyUI.esp=1 (This worked with her)
Bashed Patch, 0.esp=1
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(Suspected breaking things because of needed FNIS)

dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp=1
The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp=1
Dragon Soul Relinquishment.esp=1
Equipping Overhaul.esp=1


(Hugely Suspected breaking people with SKSE) (Might not be properly updated)

(Tested works)
Dr_BandolierDG.esp=1

(Havent tested)
BandolierForNPCMasterFile.esp=1
BandolierForNPCs.esp=1
BandolierForNPCsWIC_V2.esp=1
BandolierForNPCsCheaperBandoliersDawnguard.esp=1
BandolierForNPCsCloaksOfSkyrim.esp=1


(Probably the culprits)
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp=1
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp=1


(This one worked and did not break Delphine)
Immersive Weapons.esp=1




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Fifth Reinstallment Working well!

Adding more to this area to confirm game does not break. This section and load order is the full working section.

Current fifth reinstallment:


Skyrim.esm=1
Update.esm=1
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp=1
Dawnguard.esm=1
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp=1
HearthFires.esm=1
Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp=1
Dragonborn.esm=1
Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp=1
hornsareforever.esp=1
dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp=1
dovahkiinrelax.esp=1
V740T_MGolDinS&M.esp=0
GoTS.esp=1
Inconsequential NPCs.esp=1
Chesko_WearableLantern.esp=1
CraftableClothes.esp=1
LordOfWar_TW2.esp=1
MedievalArmory.esp=1
MIDFollowMeCloser.esp=1
Plate Armours - Credo.esp=1
Reduced Distance NPC Greetings.esp=1
W2_HelmetPack-2.esp=1
W2_HelmetPack.esp=1
Shields_of_the_northern_kingdoms.esp=1
TH3WICK3D1-NorthernKingdomsHeavyPlate.esp=1
1nivWICCloaks.esp=1
Dr_Bandolier.esp=1
RegentSword.esp=1
Immersive Weapons.esp=1
Follower Pack I.esp=1
Follower Pack II.esp=1
Follower Pack III.esp=1
Whiterun Guard Followers.esp=1
argoniansmore.esp=1
ImperialFollowers.esp=1
Convenient Horses.esp=1
UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp=1
UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp=1
UFO - Heartfire AddOn.esp=1
UFO - Dragonborn AddOn.esp=1
UFO - AllwaysDrawWeapons.esp=1
marriagedynamicoutfits.esp=1
My Home Is Your Home.esp=1
FollowerWander2.esp=1
FollowerWander2Serana.esp=1
JNL - Lots More Followers.esp=1
4 new followers - khajiits [Mittgang] v1.1.esp=1
khajiitmore.esp=1
argonianlove.esp=1
SkyUI.esp=1
Bashed Patch, 0.esp=1


I am hoping this will help others if they encounter this.