A way to refresh mods?

[Techno 2]

I have a few mods with SKSE and SkyUI installed such as Isoku's Cold and Wet and iNeed. When I was playing today the mods simply stopped updating in-game. For example, in iNeed, a widget will appear in the bottom right when your character becomes hungry. Then your character will auto-eat any food in the inventory and the widget will disappear, signifying that your hunger has been satiated. But nothing happens now.

Even if I go into my inventory and manually eat food, nothing happens. Now, I do not think this is isolated to Isoku's mods. None of my other mods that give status messages are not updating in the game-world anymore. I can still have mods function, such as custom models and such, but nothing like status messages appear like they once did.

Is there a way to sort of refresh whatever loads the scripts for these mods? Is there a way o bump them back into action?

[shadowx505]

Have you tried deactivating and reactivating the affected mods

[Nazenn]

Originally posted by shadowx505:

Have you tried deactivating and reactivating the affected mods

Bad idea. Do not deactivate a mod and then save and then reactivate it. You will just cause issues in your save, expecially with scripted mods

Originally posted by Techno 2:

Is there a way to sort of refresh whatever loads the scripts for these mods? Is there a way o bump them back into action?

Can you please provide your load order. If you have Conveniant Horses or Jaxonz Diagnostics can you also please run a script latency test via either of their MCM menus?

[ZarahNeander]

This often happens when a script goes rambo and other scripts dont have time to run anymore. You can disable alot of mods ingame via MCM: INeed, Wet & Cold, Frostfall, to name a few. It wont screw up your saves. I'd go to an interior cell, disable all mods via mcm, that can be disabled, re-enable them one by one and hope that the issue gets fixed. If not, next step would be save file cleaning: if the cleaner detects orphaned scripts and deleting them fixes the issue, yoiu have a buggy mod somewhere

[Stoob]

I ended up un-installing Wet and Cold, the polling was getting cumbersome and scripts were hanging a lot.

[gnewna]

Originally posted by Stoob:

I ended up un-installing Wet and Cold, the polling was getting cumbersome and scripts were hanging a lot.

Fair enough, but remember, you will need to either start a new game, or reload to a save before you first installed the mod, or you *will* end up with an increasingly broken game. (Okay, there's a possibility you might not, but it's pretty much a certainty, and not worth the risk, IMO.)

[Nazenn]

Originally posted by Stoob:

I ended up un-installing Wet and Cold, the polling was getting cumbersome and scripts were hanging a lot.

Wet and Cold is probably one of the singularly most well written scripted mods you will ever find. Its very light on performance for what it does, its performance can be lightened in MCM, and in fact its performance just got a major update with the 2.0 version. I would look else ware for your issues. Wet and Cold might be the mod showing the symptoms, but I doubt VERY much that its the cause

[Stoob]

Originally posted by gnewna:

Originally posted by Stoob:

I ended up un-installing Wet and Cold, the polling was getting cumbersome and scripts were hanging a lot.

Fair enough, but remember, you will need to either start a new game, or reload to a save before you first installed the mod, or you *will* end up with an increasingly broken game. (Okay, there's a possibility you might not, but it's pretty much a certainty, and not worth the risk, IMO.)

To be fair, one save did become horribly slow after uninstalling W&C. I ended up having to find an older save that was more stable. Most of my characters have experienced most mods I've ever installed so I don't doubt that there's 'stuff' lurking in there.

[Stoob]

Originally posted by Nazenn:

Originally posted by Stoob:

I ended up un-installing Wet and Cold, the polling was getting cumbersome and scripts were hanging a lot.

Wet and Cold is probably one of the singularly most well written scripted mods you will ever find. Its very light on performance for what it does, its performance can be lightened in MCM, and in fact its performance just got a major update with the 2.0 version. I would look else ware for your issues. Wet and Cold might be the mod showing the symptoms, but I doubt VERY much that its the cause

Quite probably, and I've no idea which version I was on. The main reason I'd still had it installed was pretty much for the fur cloaks but once my game was struggling I thought it wasn't worth if just for some cloaks I could get elsewhere (or mod their's myself).

[Ilja]

Originally posted by Stoob:

Quite probably, and I've no idea which version I was on. The main reason I'd still had it installed was pretty much for the fur cloaks but once my game was struggling I thought it wasn't worth if just for some cloaks I could get elsewhere (or mod their's myself).

The new version is quite smart, because it allows you to add items in to levelled lists. This lessens the amount of scritps running in the area, because spawns are often already equipped with the stuff they would need to survive in the climate.

That option is not active by default. You will have to add items to levelled lists from text buttons in MCM. I do advice doing so.

What comes to fur cloaks; did you install high resolution versions of them from installer? That may have caused your problem.

[Armchair Civilian]

Is it because of fast-travelling? i had an occasion where Frostfall stopped updating after i'd F-T'd home from Winterhold, i found that saving, exiting, and reloading the game fixed it without dramatic interventions.

[Ilja]

It rarely actually stops from updating. Frostfall seems to warn each and every time it fails to get enough script data to make a check. If you follow bars, you notice that they usually work correctly, because mod makes another check and finds that everything is in order.

It complains almost constantly when you are working with Hunterborn. I don't usually rush the work, so that Frostfall can make it's checks, but I have also disabled the useless warning. I would see if mod would have really stopped working from lacking wetness/warmth bars, or lack of movement in them.

[Armchair Civilian]

Yeah, i've noticed the warnings that mean nothing (with Hunterborn, as you say), but on this occasion it definitely stopped any of the temperature / wetness bars from moving, with no warnings whatsoever. Fortunately it was easily fixable, probably a one-off, by the sounds of it.

[Techno 2]

Originally posted by Nazenn:

Originally posted by Techno 2:

Is there a way to sort of refresh whatever loads the scripts for these mods? Is there a way o bump them back into action?

Can you please provide your load order. If you have Conveniant Horses or Jaxonz Diagnostics can you also please run a script latency test via either of their MCM menus?

Sure, I can show pic of my load order. I used LOOT for a preliminary sorting, and did the rest manually per recommendation of various mod authors, but did not change much of what LOOT did in the end.

{LINK REMOVED}http://www.mediafire.com/download/16qvco113v1a2sw/Load_Order.zip

I did not know Convinent Horses had a script latency test. I have MCM, so I'll go do that now and let you know the results.

Oh and thanks for the replies!!!

(EDIT: well apparantly Steam flags my link to the pictures on media fire. know a quick and easy way to show pictures here?)

[Techno 2]

I will write my load order here if the link cannot be accesed:

skyrim
Update
Unofficial Skyrim Patch
HearthFires
Unofficial Hearthfire Patch
HighResTexturePack01
HighResTexturePack02
HighResTexturePack03
Unofficial HighResolution Patch
SkyTEST-REalisticAnimals&Predators
ToruingCarriages
Cutting Room Floor
barenziahquestmarkers
SplashofRain
TaxesOfTheNineHolds
Combat Evolved
DeadlyCombat
Convenient Horses
dragonboneweaponscomplete
Locational Damage
lootanddegradation
smincsmith
skyui
smessentialkills - xc
stranger_danger
majoramoon
TelekinesisImproved-LessDMG
RelightingSkyrim-NoScripts
mask
keatonmask
Diseased
prometheus_no_snow_under_the_roof
DeadlyCombat_giantsAIFix
TradeBarter
Weapons & Armor_FasterArrows
Weapons & Armor_TrueOrcishWeapons
Weapons & Armor_Fixes_Remade
Birdsofskyrim
SkyFalls + SkyMills
Day Night City Lights
Complete Crafting Overhaul_Hearthfire
Clothing & Clutter Fixes_Hearthfire
Cloaks
jasBetterFood
kokiriswordjkalenad
RelightingSkyrim
UniqueBorderGates-All
QaxeWinterholdRebuild
Rooster At dawn v1.0
Chesko_Frostfall
fishingskyrim
terminanshield
manavoid
TC-CRF
ineed
Weapons & Armor_DragonPriestMasks
Weapons & Amor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists
Lore Weapon Expansion
Throwing_Weapons_Redux
_admod
MODdisguises
DeadlyCombat_ASIS_Patch
balanced_magic
betterwards
PrayAtShrines
SoS - Civilization
SoS - The Dungeons
SoS - The Wilds
Smithing Perks Overhaul_Remade
CP Apple Trees
Moresmeltables
spellsofthethirdera

[Techno 2]

I could not open the Convenient Horses settings in MCM and out of MCM from the spell. I ran a latency test with Jaxonz Diagnostics, though.

Calibration, 5000 instances
Total: 230.675049
Average: 0.046135
Slowest: 11.818115
Fastest: 0.000000
Nominal Average: 0.016600
Best: 0.046135

Latency, 5000 instances
Total: 900.103760
Average: 0.180021
Slowest: 53.930054
Fastest: 0.032959
Nominal Average: 0.065000
Best: 0.180021