The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim

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Brawls completely broken
In my Skyrim everytime I try to initiate a brawl (where you select the "Brawl" option in the dialogue menu with an NPC and then the conversation pauses so you can have a fistfight with the NPC) the NPC just stands up/stops doing what they are doing and unequips their weapon and then goes about their bussiness as if nothing happened. If I punch them during this breif period of them standing still then they will start fistfighting me like a regular brawl but when I win they go down and get back up and then pretend as if nothing happened. I tried turning off all my mods but it didn't change anything. Does anyone know of any fixes for this?


(I was going to put a list of all my mods here but it seems you can't copy/paste the names from NMM, if anyone needs to know just ask and I'll write all of them down here)

EDIT: Maybe unrelated but Draugr don't burst out of their tombs (the black box thingies) like they are supposed to, the game just acts like I killed them all. I can just walk right past Draugr overlords and get new shouts and leave the dungeon without having to fight anything. Also when the Greybeards tell me to stand in the middle of the room so I can "hear their vioces" it doesn't work right away. I had to travel to whiterun and come back and then it worked for some reason.
Last edited by Blackjester; Jul 10, 2015 @ 2:16pm
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MageThis Jul 9, 2015 @ 10:05pm 
Are you using LOOT to rationalize your load order?
Blackjester Jul 9, 2015 @ 10:09pm 
Originally posted by MageThis:
Are you using LOOT to rationalize your load order?
yes
ImSid Jul 9, 2015 @ 10:18pm 
Have you tried opening the console and typing tai
this toggles the AI on and off. Try it once to then close the console to see if they attack. If not try it again as it might just kick start the AI.
Blackjester Jul 9, 2015 @ 10:40pm 
Originally posted by ImSid:
Have you tried opening the console and typing tai
this toggles the AI on and off. Try it once to then close the console to see if they attack. If not try it again as it might just kick start the AI.
ok Ill try it thanks
Nazenn Jul 10, 2015 @ 1:18am 
In future, use the modwatch uploader from the nexus to post your load order

However, just install the Brawl Bugs Patch from the nexus and see if that works.
If you are using SPE RG then brawling will be broken regardless of if you use the patch unfortunetly.
If not please supply your load order etc
ImSid Jul 10, 2015 @ 4:13am 
Originally posted by Nazenn:
In future, use the modwatch uploader from the nexus to post your load order

However, just install the Brawl Bugs Patch from the nexus and see if that works.
If you are using SPE RG then brawling will be broken regardless of if you use the patch unfortunetly.
If not please supply your load order etc

I run SPERG and have no problems with brawls, in the options just turn brawl mode to manual.
ImSid Jul 10, 2015 @ 4:14am 
SPE RG even.. stupid filter
Nazenn Jul 10, 2015 @ 5:33am 
Its kinda 50%. Turning off the MCM works for some people but doesn't work for others. Its quite odd. I believe it must be some form of mod conflict but not enough data to extrapolate on it
And yes, stupid filter, makes it all too hard sometimes
Blackjester Jul 10, 2015 @ 11:17am 
Originally posted by Nazenn:
In future, use the modwatch uploader from the nexus to post your load order

However, just install the Brawl Bugs Patch from the nexus and see if that works.
If you are using SPE RG then brawling will be broken regardless of if you use the patch unfortunetly.
If not please supply your load order etc
I don't know what SPE RG is so I'll assume I'm not using it. Should I install the Brawl Bugs Patch with NMM or manually?

EDIT: I'm going with NMM but tell me if thats the wrong decision.
Last edited by Blackjester; Jul 10, 2015 @ 11:23am
Nazenn Jul 10, 2015 @ 11:31am 
With NMM is fine. EVERY mod can be installed with NMM unless it is an ENB or a SweetFX preset. Generally if its esp, esm, bsa or just loose mesh and texture files its fine
Blackjester Jul 10, 2015 @ 12:14pm 
Alright sometime between now and yesterday my Skyrim got the Application load error 3:0000065432/Error 51 and now won't launch. I tried uninstalling the Brawl Fix and letting Skyrim through my Avast but none of that helped so now I'm going to restart my PC.

EDIT: Ok, restarting my PC fixed the game. Now I'll see if the Brawl Bugs Patch Fixes the Brawls
Last edited by Blackjester; Jul 10, 2015 @ 12:30pm
Blackjester Jul 10, 2015 @ 2:18pm 
I tried both the Compatibility and Standard version of the Brawl Bugs Patch but neither of them worked. I know I don't have SPE RG so I don't know what the problem is.
Blackjester Jul 10, 2015 @ 4:43pm 
I figured it out. The new multiplayer mod Tamriel Online was casuing all of the problems. I uninstalled it and reinstalled the Brawl Bugs Patch Compatibility version and I can now beat Uthgerd into a corner once again. Thank you guys for your help. :)

P.S. I would highly recommend trying out the Tamriel Online mod with a few of your freinds, it works well and it gets frequent and progressive updates.Thats not mentioning how fun it is to play Skryrim with your freinds. Just don't have it installed while playing singleplayer.
Last edited by Blackjester; Jul 10, 2015 @ 4:48pm
MageThis Jul 10, 2015 @ 6:24pm 
Was this even mentioned? ^^ Surprise, surprise.
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