How can I to force a single point of view.

[Jig McGalliger]

Is there anyway I can disable 3rd person point of view? or force first person point of view only possibly in the ini?

My game won't stop switching from first to third pov. It isn't my mouse wheel or my pov toggle.

[jallo]

When does it change? During finishmoves, mining, using a forge, sitting down in a chair so on so forth will quickly show your character in 3rd person but the view should go right back to first person. Is it one of these intentional switches that bothers you or is your game broken somehow?

[Jig McGalliger]

No it isn't like that. I am having to press the toggle pov button every few seconds, I'm either just standing there, walking, or even force to do it mid bow aim. I never had this issue with Skyrim before this fresh install. This isn't an action that moves the camera due to context in-game.

[Jig McGalliger]

So it is one of my mod that changed something on this save, though I don't know which one. I had an old save from 20 levels back that I can load and it does not have the issue even with all the mods on. Here is my modlist, does anyone know which of these would intermittently change first person to third?

Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp
Dawnguard.esm
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp
HearthFires.esm
Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp
ApachiiHair.esm
ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
Falskaar.esm
Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm
portal2mod.esp
HighResTexturePack01.esp
HighResTexturePack02.esp
HighResTexturePack03.esp
Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp
Better Dynamic Snow.esp
PNENB.esp
Bag of Holding.esp
bee.esp
better embers.esp
bigger and boulder.esp
birds.esp
CalienteVanillaArmorTweaks.esp
Dead Body Collision.esp
hdplants+herbs.esp
item recycling.esp
ktxcompleteskyforge.esp
marchanditinerant.esp
milkywaygalaxy.esp
moredragonloot.esp
moss rocks.esp
topics of skyrim.esp
WetandCold.esp
Footprints.esp
SkyUI.esp
archersarsenal.esp
dragonboneweaponscomplete.esp
lefthandrings.esp
bettercitiesdocksolitude.esp
bettercitiesjarlshouses.esp
bettercitiesmorebees.esp
bettercitiesnewfarm.esp
betterdawnstar.esp
betterinns.esp
bettermarkarthexterieur.esp
bettermorthal.esp
betterwinterhold.esp
enhancedhighhrothgarbymat.esp
Markarth_plus.esp
newplacehermaeusshrine.esp
newplaceddawnguard.esp
treehouse.esp
whiterunexenhanced.esp
lighterdragonitems.esp
lightweight potions and poisons.esp
AchieveThat.esp
BetterQuestObjectives.esp
BetterQuestObjectives-Dawnguard.esp
BetterQuestObjectives-Hearthfire.esp
FasterHorses_Sprint_x1_5.esp
Headtracking.esp
lightweight scrolls.esp
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp
unreadbooksglow.esp
betterravenrock.esp
helgenrebuilt.esp
RiverwoodEnhancedPlugin.esp
TAVERiften.esp
TAVESolitude.esp
TAVEWindhelm.esp
tavevillages.esp
WhiterunInEnhanced.esp
tavefalkreath.esp
sos - the dungeons.esp
sos - the wilds.esp
sos - civilization.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Sound.esp
Realistic Lighting.esp
Realistic Lighting Patcher.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp
CoT-WeatherPatch.esp
CoT-WeatherPatch_Snow-10.esp
SoS - The Wilds-PatchCoT.esp
SoS - The Wilds-PatchCoTSounds.esp
SoS - Civilization-PatchCoT.esp
SoS - Civilization -PatchCoTSounds.esp
betterfire.esp
FNISspells.esp
private_nokillblur_test.esp
TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
followers keep up.esp
followers keep up (dawnguard).esp
WATER - Sir Crabalot Returns.esp
askfollowerskills.esp
dd - realistic ragdoll force - realistic.esp
RealShelter.esp
WATER Plants.esp
WATER DG.esp
WATER DB Waves.esp
WATER Falskaar.esp
barenziahquestmarkers.esp
skyforge_map_marker.esp
bettertrading.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Sound-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
immersive patrols ii.esp
pureweather.esp
realistic piercing arrows.esp
roninscamillaoverhaul.esp
SMIM-Merged-All.esp
tougherhorses.esp
FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp
nighthawkeye.esp
FNISSexyMove.esp
purewaters.esp
Purewaters-Falskaar.esp
Brawl Bugs CE.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel Falskaar.esp
Footprints - Ash.esp
TreaclemanFalskaarPatch.esp

[Jig McGalliger]

Anyone?

[MageThis]

Run "Loot" and post the results here.

[Jig McGalliger]

I use BOSS and TES5Edit (to negate load order crashes). If there was a way I could lock the camera or disable zoom outs, that could work. I ran LOOT to get a report, though I cancled before it changed the load order (because I don't want to break what loads). Here are the results (they appear the same as BOSS results).

Summary
LOOT Version 0.5.0
Masterlist Version 74b292d75
Masterlist Updating Enabled
Total Number of Messages 17
Number of Warnings 25
Number of Errors 0

Summary Details Filters
Skyrim.esm
CRC: C665FD56
Update.esm
CRC: E5B67BDA
Add: Delev, Relev
Warning: Contains 92 ITM records and 3 UDR records. Clean with TES5Edit.
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp
CRC: FB709557
Version: 2.0.4a
Add: Delev, Names, Relev, Stats
Dawnguard.esm
CRC: BD72CCF3
Add: Delev, Relev
Warning: Contains 619 ITM records, 82 UDR records and 57 deleted navmeshes. Clean with TES5Edit.
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp
CRC: 4FC896F3
Version: 2.0.4
Add: Delev, Names, Relev, Stats
HearthFires.esm
CRC: AF82CE6A
Warning: Contains 184 ITM records, 11 UDR records and 5 deleted navmeshes. Clean with TES5Edit.
Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp
CRC: 77F63482
Version: 2.0.4
Add: Names
Dragonborn.esm
CRC: A9F83BFF
Warning: Contains 61 ITM records, 8 UDR records and 1 deleted navmeshes. Clean with TES5Edit.
Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp
CRC: 8B14CDED
Version: 2.0.4a
Add: Delev
Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm
CRC: FE33A011
Falskaar.esm
CRC: 7889C5B8
Version: 1.1.4
ApachiiHair.esm
CRC: 783F7167
Version: 1.4
ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
CRC: 918881A7
Version: 3.1
HighResTexturePack01.esp
CRC: D596F02A
HighResTexturePack02.esp
CRC: D596F02A
HighResTexturePack03.esp
CRC: D596F02A
Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp
CRC: 3BE2E4A3
Version: 1.1.7
bigger and boulder.esp
CRC: 83E18690
Better Dynamic Snow.esp
CRC: F3204EF1
TreaclemanFalskaarPatch.esp
CRC: 60CAAE03
FNISSexyMove.esp
CRC: 1DF80E6F
lightweight potions and poisons.esp
CRC: C641449F
Version: 0.1.
BetterQuestObjectives.esp
CRC: C71C862D
BetterQuestObjectives-Dawnguard.esp
CRC: EB7D5B73
dragonboneweaponscomplete.esp
CRC: 1AFC0F7A
Brawl Bugs CE.esp
CRC: D284ACF
ClimatesOfTamriel Falskaar.esp
CRC: 4BCCD60C
realistic piercing arrows.esp
CRC: C91545BA
dd - realistic ragdoll force - realistic.esp
CRC: 910FBBF3
Note: Ragdolls will conflict with other mods that change the skeleton.nif. Check Custom Skeleton Replacers for compatibly with other skeleton.nif.
CoT-WeatherPatch.esp
CRC: 2FEA325D
Warning: Contains 5 ITM records. Clean with TES5Edit.
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
CRC: 7AFD4E3E
better embers.esp
CRC: BB8EA508
followers keep up (dawnguard).esp
CRC: 343D9CA7
FasterHorses_Sprint_x1_5.esp
CRC: 58F9E1ED
barenziahquestmarkers.esp
CRC: 9B51E375
dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp
CRC: FE5C3763
Footprints.esp
CRC: BFAF15E8
Footprints - Ash.esp
CRC: D3E16A61
tougherhorses.esp
CRC: 3853007C
lighterdragonitems.esp
CRC: 4308B661
CoT-WeatherPatch_Snow-10.esp
CRC: 52EA5E70
hdplants+herbs.esp
CRC: BB8EA508
Headtracking.esp
CRC: 2856EB9F
Better distant LOD waterfalls V3.esp
CRC: E09A30B2
lefthandrings.esp
CRC: D4E274C6
Version: 1.4
lightweight scrolls.esp
CRC: E59E7DA0
milkywaygalaxy.esp
CRC: 1D39BB6D
Version: 1.1
nighthawkeye.esp
CRC: 6225A8AA
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp
CRC: 9FFF2A85
Version: 3.1
moss rocks.esp
CRC: 40AB761A
Realistic Lighting.esp
CRC: FA05D368
birds.esp
CRC: 200672C3
Note: Incompatible with: Hearthfires.esm. Use either BirdsHF.esp or BirdsHFclean.esp.
Warning: Contains 376 ITM records and 2 UDR records. Clean with TES5Edit.
betterinns.esp
CRC: C01735DF
Warning: This file contains 1 deleted NavMesh record(s) that TES5Edit cannot repair automatically and it may cause problems with your game. NavMesh deletions should be reported to the mod author. A guide to repairing NavMesh deletions with TES5Edit is located here.
CalienteVanillaArmorTweaks.esp
CRC: C70F65
roninscamillaoverhaul.esp
CRC: AA24D109
BetterQuestObjectives-Hearthfire.esp
CRC: 66E9EC89
SkyUI.esp
CRC: 9330CAF7
Version: 4.1
AchieveThat.esp
CRC: 9E2FF613
Version: 3.2.1
FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp
CRC: EBD99340
sos - the wilds.esp
CRC: C1743294
Version: 1.13
Note: Do not use the Crash Fix ESP for this mod. It is flagged as a master and is only meant as a last resort for fixing crashes.
Warning: Contains 8 ITM records. Clean with TES5Edit.
sos - civilization.esp
CRC: 5EF1D362
Version: 1.02
Note: Do not use the Crash Fix ESP for this mod. It is flagged as a master and is only meant as a last resort for fixing crashes.
pureweather.esp
CRC: C53880DD
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
CRC: 6DEDE258
Version: 3.1
Realistic Lighting Patcher.esp
CRC: C280F8D6
PNENB.esp
CRC: 2E468AAE
Version: 1.0
RealShelter.esp
CRC: 6184FF88
Version: 1.2
bettercitiesjarlshouses.esp
CRC: 776C8B0D
Warning: Contains 54 UDR records. Clean with TES5Edit.
helgenrebuilt.esp
CRC: F604F9E1
Warning: This file contains 3 deleted NavMesh record(s) that TES5Edit cannot repair automatically and it may cause problems with your game. NavMesh deletions should be reported to the mod author. A guide to repairing NavMesh deletions with TES5Edit is located here.
Warning: Contains 103 ITM records and 15 UDR records. Clean with TES5Edit.
sos - the dungeons.esp
CRC: 79377267
Version: 1.23
Note: Do not use the Crash Fix ESP for this mod. It is flagged as a master and is only meant as a last resort for fixing crashes.
Bag of Holding.esp
CRC: 75E83670
bettermorthal.esp
CRC: 6D128F9D
Warning: This file contains 1 deleted NavMesh record(s) that TES5Edit cannot repair automatically and it may cause problems with your game. NavMesh deletions should be reported to the mod author. A guide to repairing NavMesh deletions with TES5Edit is located here.
betterravenrock.esp
CRC: 3FC43096
WATER DB Waves.esp
CRC: 77EF72E9
Version: 2.0
SMIM-Merged-All.esp
CRC: 46D0D2C0
immersive patrols ii.esp
CRC: 78F7FB96
betterfire.esp
CRC: 55FB6DA2
Dead Body Collision.esp
CRC: B8B71CA1
archersarsenal.esp
CRC: E8C23019
marchanditinerant.esp
CRC: FED2C653
Markarth_plus.esp
CRC: E488B882
Warning: Contains 37 ITM records and 28 UDR records. Clean with TES5Edit.
betterdawnstar.esp
CRC: ECF883A6
bettermarkarthexterieur.esp
CRC: 65D6CC9D
Purewaters.esp
CRC: 193690EE
Version: 4.6
tavevillages.esp
CRC: 73B52F67
Warning: This file contains 1 deleted NavMesh record(s) that TES5Edit cannot repair automatically and it may cause problems with your game. NavMesh deletions should be reported to the mod author. A guide to repairing NavMesh deletions with TES5Edit is located here.
Warning: Contains 15 ITM records. Clean with TES5Edit.
SoS - The Wilds-PatchCoT.esp
CRC: 809A34DA
Note: Use only one Sounds of Skyrim - The Wilds and CoT patch.
ClimatesOfTamriel-Sound.esp
CRC: 75A1B6EA
Version: 3.1
SoS - Civilization -PatchCoTSounds.esp
CRC: E023E60D
Note: Use only one Sounds of Skyrim - Civilization and CoT patch.
SoS - Civilization-PatchCoT.esp
CRC: A82D649E
Note: Use only one Sounds of Skyrim - Civilization and CoT patch.
SoS - The Wilds-PatchCoTSounds.esp
CRC: 53090D51
Note: Use only one Sounds of Skyrim - The Wilds and CoT patch.
ClimatesOfTamriel-Sound-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
CRC: DA95740E
TAVEWindhelm.esp
CRC: 3FD0EB7E
topics of skyrim.esp
CRC: 3729AFC1
Version: 1.00
unreadbooksglow.esp
CRC: CAAC2A07
Version: 2.2.0
WATER DG.esp
CRC: 82F847B6
Version: 2.0
WATER Falskaar.esp
CRC: 4BE26C4B
Version: 2.0
Purewaters-Falskaar.esp
CRC: 6642343F
WetandCold.esp
CRC: 1EDF3DB6
Version: 1.41
WhiterunInEnhanced.esp
CRC: F34512E2
RiverwoodEnhancedPlugin.esp
CRC: 5B3C0E5A
Warning: Contains 4 ITM records and 5 UDR records. Clean with TES5Edit.
bettercitiesnewfarm.esp
CRC: 3F73AFCE
Warning: Contains 1 ITM records and 1 UDR records. Clean with TES5Edit.
whiterunexenhanced.esp
CRC: 7D840CAC
Warning: Contains 9 ITM records and 6 UDR records. Clean with TES5Edit.
bettercitiesdocksolitude.esp
CRC: 953F6085
Warning: Contains 1 ITM records. Clean with TES5Edit.
bettercitiesmorebees.esp
CRC: 64A951E
newplaceddawnguard.esp
CRC: B3B52A3F
bettertrading.esp
CRC: EE9D1AF1
ktxcompleteskyforge.esp
CRC: A4FA76E3
item recycling.esp
CRC: 29B56766
TAVESolitude.esp
CRC: 9F9D1C35
skyforge_map_marker.esp
CRC: B7E5B956
FNISspells.esp
CRC: 4F3339DE
TAVERiften.esp
CRC: 1057D425
Warning: Contains 13 ITM records and 2 UDR records. Clean with TES5Edit.
betterwinterhold.esp
CRC: 2FDD3872
bee.esp
CRC: 5D40D908
WATER Plants.esp
CRC: F66566C6
Version: 2.0
newplacehermaeusshrine.esp
CRC: E81A883
followers keep up.esp
CRC: 3AEE1E2A
tavefalkreath.esp
CRC: A570B56F
Warning: Contains 3 ITM records. Clean with TES5Edit.
treehouse.esp
CRC: 3FC31EEA
portal2mod.esp
CRC: F0C49703
Warning: Contains 5 ITM records. Clean with TES5Edit.
enhancedhighhrothgarbymat.esp
CRC: 63B82993
Warning: Contains 2 ITM records. Clean with TES5Edit.
private_nokillblur_test.esp
CRC: 7796719D
WATER - Sir Crabalot Returns.esp
CRC: E2F36EA7
askfollowerskills.esp
CRC: 956D41B7
moredragonloot.esp
CRC: 6C36D066
TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
CRC: F84DC756
Version: 9
Warning: Contains 2 ITM records. Clean with TES5Edit.


Just to note, here is the summary of my BOSS run:
Plugin Type | Count
Recognised (or sorted by user rules) | 113
Unrecognised | 12
Inactive | 0
All | 125

Plugin Message Type | Count
Warning | 4
Error | 0
All | 45
Masterlist updated; at revision: 9647501d3.

[Mumbles]

I don't know why your problem is occuring. But your load order is a mess! Why would you ignore 45 warnings?

Why do you have the Birds version that says "DO NOT USE WITH HEARTHFIRE" - if you have Hearthfire?

Why are you using multiple Sounds/CoT patches when it says "USE ONLY ONE".

If you're using TES5Edit - you should also be cleaning your mods ... look at all the dirty edits.
http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Mod_Cleaning_Tutorial

Probably none of this fixes your specific issue - but its still stuff that should be dealt with ... and I wasn't even looking very hard.

[Jig McGalliger]

Well that is steamworkshop installing wrong birds version. Easy delete.

I use CoT for the visuals and it autoinstalls sounds. I run the desired sounds to overwrite CoT sounds with NMM so I still get visuals and sounds I want, I am not getting any issues ingame even with a warning. I also don't see where it states you only use one patch. There are multiple patches for different things.

I'm not sure what those warnings mean nor how to clean mods. I just used TES5 to make sure my order would load.

[Mumbles]

You might not be aware of things going wrong but with that many warnings they probably are... :)

As to your camera problem - sorry I have no idea ... maybe player headtracking interfering with something else. That's just a guess though - can't see how it would be the case though.

[Jig McGalliger]

I tried disabling headtracking. The headtracking is only when talking to people and doesn't affect the camera, but your character's actual head.

[sp0ckrates]

Same happened to me, but it was not a mod, as I had none but my own, at the time. It must have been a bug in Skyim. Loading a save made when my character was not in third person fixed it.

[Jig McGalliger]

I tried the saving in first person, no luck. I even reinstalled the whole game, copied the mods over, and still have the issue.

This mod helps, but it won't hold my camera first person, it just autotoggles at certain instances.
http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/27452/?