Unique Items - Leveled and Not Leveled

[Shizofrend]

As far as I know there are some leveled and some non-leveling unique items, Is that true? I looked it up on UESP and for example Chilldren is leveled and The Pale Lady is not so is this true that some are and some are not leveled and if so that means if I didn't get non leveled items when I should have they are as good as butter knifes not (for display cases maybe)?

[Bomb Bloke]

Get a levelled item[www.uesp.net] when your character is low-level, and it'll be forever rubbish. Mods can work around this (eg[www.nexusmods.com]), but that's the long and short of it.

See this recent thread for more details.

[DragonClass]

Another mod to help with this for non crafters: No Leveled Item Rewards[www.nexusmods.com]

[Archnecrotyr]

There is a small pond of water north-west of whiterun that has a skeleton hand reaching up through the water. The hand itself will always be holding a sword when you first find it. The type of sword can range anywhere from iron to ebony depending on what level you are when you find it.

As far as I know, it is the only instance in the game of a leveled reward that also directly references The Lady in the Lake and Excalibur.

[Shizofrend]

I understand that but at UESP some unique items are labeled are leveled and some are not. Chillrend is and The Pale Lady isn't , now is that true. I know when I my games loads a leveled item for the first time it will stay as strong as that time depending what level I was but what about unique items that are not leveled? Those should be found as soon as possible right? Cuz not all unique weapons and apparel are leveled right (so it says on the wiki)???

[Bomb Bloke]

It doesn't matter when you get a non-levelled artifact; they'll be of the same power level any time you find them. Think of them as being "pre-levelled": they're a good find for weak character, but not so good for a strong one.

[Shizofrend]

Originally posted by Bomb Bloke:

It doesn't matter when you get a non-levelled artifact; they'll be of the same power level any time you find them. Think of them as being "pre-levelled": they're a good find for weak character, but not so good for a strong one.

Oh ok thx

[Roscaria]

I agree with Bomb Bloke. Your best weapon and armour is one you make yourself when your skills are at a high level. All the rest of the quest and daedric items I have obtained are just chucked into a chest as they are pretty useless at a higher level.

[Peter Pan]

There are mods that will unlevel them and ensure that they are at max strength regardless of when you get them.

You shouldn't have to game the system, like delay the quests in order to get the best possible item.

Use mods. I personally use Skyrim Reborn because not only does it unlevel the items, it also balances a lot of things in the game, like remove the OP enchanting-smithing-alchemy chain.

Originally posted by Roscaria:

I agree with Bomb Bloke. Your best weapon and armour is one you make yourself when your skills are at a high level. All the rest of the quest and daedric items I have obtained are just chucked into a chest as they are pretty useless at a higher level.

And this is an immersion breaker. Daedric items are made by the daedric lords themselves, legendary items that have stood the test of time, created by all-powerful beings. A mortal Dragonborn shouldn't be able to create items that can beat them.

This is why daedric items should at least be unleveled.

[Bomb Bloke]

Originally posted by Peter Pan:

And this is an immersion breaker. Daedric items are made by the daedric lords themselves, legendary items that have stood the test of time, created by all-powerful beings. A mortal Dragonborn shouldn't be able to create items that can beat them.

This is why daedric items should at least be unleveled.

It's also why I like the crafting mod I linked - it allows you to create unenchanted versions of daedric artifacts you've earned (unlocking crafting recipes as you do quests), opening up the possibility of creating enchanted daedric artifacts that're at least on par with "regular" crafted gear.