House of Horrors - Good Decision?

[Shizofrend]

Is there anyway to complete the house of horrors quest (molag bal deadric quest) without killing Logrolf or killing him but not letting his soul get claimed by Molag?

It looks like there is no good outcome option avaible but I was wondering if you guys could help me somehow save poor old guys soul from being trapped in Molags realm of pain and suffering (sorry I really like to get into the game and get lost in it's world and atmosphere). I was wondering maybe killing him and traping his soul with soul trap in my amulet and giving (pickpocketing) the amulet with his soul to a boethia's priest or something or just killing him as quick as possible before he gets trapped by molag in that cage down there or killing him while undeteced with a arrow so he doesn't know it was me or giving a comand to a companion to kill him or luring forsworn to kill him somehow.....I really don't want to kill the poor guy and damn his soul to molag for eternity so any help , suggestions are helpful and welcome. If you don't have any please just pick whick one of these do you think is the most moraly good and ofc Thank you!

[Nazenn]

House of Horrors Alternate Ending
http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/21700

Load a save file from before you started the quest and then load that mod and do the quest.
Litterally the only way I know of to finish the quest for a good character without killing him or flat out ignoring its existance.

[gnewna]

The guy's a priest of Boethiah, whose realm isn't exactly fluffy unicorns and rainbows...Boethiah is, to quote the UESP, "the Daedric Prince who rules over deceit, conspiracy, secret plots of murder, assassination, treason, and unlawful overthrow of authority." I wouldn't worry about his soul.

On the other hand, a "good" person would not do Molag Bal's bidding, given that Molag Bal is more unequivocally evil than Boethiah (Boethiah does, by the way, have some not-especially-evil followers, in that they are traditionally worshipped as part of the Dunmer pantheon, more or less. On the other hand, Boethiah's own quest in Skyrim is... probably the nastiest of all the Daedric quests in this game, I'd say.)

I would probably either kill him where you find him, or let him go back to Bal, who seems unable to do anything to him directly. In game terms, he will stay there indefinitely, but provided you don't actually go back to the house, your character would legitimately be able to assume he'd have just carried on as before.

[Brandybuck]

Originally posted by Drunken Whaler:

Is there anyway to complete the house of horrors quest (molag bal deadric quest) without killing Logrolf or killing him but not letting his soul get claimed by Molag?

It looks like there is no good outcome option avaible...

There is a good outcome. Don't do the quest. Once you escape the house, don't come back. You can rescue Logrolf if you want, but once you re-enter the house, you have made your decision to side with evil. Does this mean you can't complete the quest? Yes it does. Too bad. A unfinished quest in your journal is not an excuse for murder.

[gnewna]

Originally posted by Brandybuck:

Originally posted by Drunken Whaler:

Is there anyway to complete the house of horrors quest (molag bal deadric quest) without killing Logrolf or killing him but not letting his soul get claimed by Molag?

It looks like there is no good outcome option avaible...

There is a good outcome. Don't do the quest. Once you escape the house, don't come back. You can rescue Logrolf if you want, but once you re-enter the house, you have made your decision to side with evil. Does this mean you can't complete the quest? Yes it does. Too bad. A unfinished quest in your journal is not an excuse for murder.

Exactly. A good person does not traffic with Daedra, and they definitely, under no circumstances, do Molag Bal's bidding.

[76561198133591931]

Originally posted by gnewna:

Originally posted by Brandybuck:

There is a good outcome. Don't do the quest. Once you escape the house, don't come back. You can rescue Logrolf if you want, but once you re-enter the house, you have made your decision to side with evil. Does this mean you can't complete the quest? Yes it does. Too bad. A unfinished quest in your journal is not an excuse for murder.

Exactly. A good person does not traffic with Daedra, and they definitely, under no circumstances, do Molag Bal's bidding.

Thank Gawd I don't RP this game much. Daedra quests are among the most interesting in the game. To be fair though, for the last 3 chars, I've RP'ed enough that there are guilds I won't join for that char type. My Assassin/Illusionist won't join the Thieve's Guild. My Warrior won't join the College or DB. And my Mage won't join the Companions. But Daedra? Bring it.

[gnewna]

Originally posted by darkknight4321234:

Originally posted by gnewna:

Exactly. A good person does not traffic with Daedra, and they definitely, under no circumstances, do Molag Bal's bidding.

Thank Gawd I don't RP this game much. Daedra quests are among the most interesting in the game. To be fair though, for the last 3 chars, I've RP'ed enough that there are guilds I won't join for that char type. My Assassin/Illusionist won't join the Thieve's Guild. My Warrior won't join the College or DB. And my Mage won't join the Companions. But Daedra? Bring it.

My current main character will definitely be consorting with Nocturnal, because she's doing the Thieves' Guild. She will likely do Azura's quest at some point, and may or may not do Meridia and Mephala's (although she won't charge the Blade). She will very likely do Malacath's. She will NOT be helping Molag Bal, Namira, Boethiah... She probably won't do Peryite's quest, more out of 'this is not someone who would go into a pit of gross, vomiting, afflicted' than any sense of morality. She will almost certainly help Erandur.

One of my secondary characters is a cannibal Bosmer, but not for religious reasons, if anything it's out of a sense of wanting to profane the religious rite of his people. He will be working for Sithis, Champion of Namira, and probably will do Bal's task as well, though he prefers daggers to maces. He might do Hircine's quest.

My other secondary character is a somewhat religious Dunmer. She may end up being the one who does Mephala's (I've got them all existing concurrently in my head) quest, ditto Azura and if anyone does Boethiah's, it'll be her. Though she is generally rather (self-)righteous and noble, so she might balk at that particular quest. She's a Companion, which means she's involved with Hircine, but I don't think she'll be super happy about it.

Obviously people should play the way they find enjoyable, but I don't feel like I'm missing out by limiting my characters according to what I think they would actually do, in the slightest - there's only so much time to play, after all! (Also, I personally find it more interesting to sometimes spit in the faces of the Daedra - while still probably doing at least some of their quest - rather than always go the path of 'do what they say, get the shiny'.)

[gnewna]

Ah, I know how frustrating the foggy head is :( Sorry to hear you've been ill.

Yes, if you 'fail' the quest by killing him (or him dying to other things) before he gets back to Markarth, then the quest should be moved to the 'completed' section, albeit completed by 'failing' - but it won't be active any more.

I think you could put killing him on the road/when you free him down as a "good" or "relatively good" outcome, to be honest, but I can understand if you're not 100% comfortable with that. One thing - soul trapping humans (and elves and so on) is... well, I don't want to give you any spoilers for things you may not have done/may have forgotten, but it's probably not much better than going to Molag Bal's realm.

2000 hours on two characters is pretty good going! Have fun, whatever you decide :)

[mpd1958]

Hey Drunken, if you want to get rid of an evil artifact where nobody will find it, do what I do, go for a swim in the Sea of Ghosts and drop it in the ocean.

[voehringer_nitron]

Originally posted by gnewna:

The guy's a priest of Boethiah, whose realm isn't exactly fluffy unicorns and rainbows...Boethiah is, to quote the UESP, "the Daedric Prince who rules over deceit, conspiracy, secret plots of murder, assassination, treason, and unlawful overthrow of authority." I wouldn't worry about his soul.

On the other hand, a "good" person would not do Molag Bal's bidding, given that Molag Bal is more unequivocally evil than Boethiah (Boethiah does, by the way, have some not-especially-evil followers, in that they are traditionally worshipped as part of the Dunmer pantheon, more or less. On the other hand, Boethiah's own quest in Skyrim is... probably the nastiest of all the Daedric quests in this game, I'd say.)

Eh, I'd say Namira's is worse. Om nom nom. :p

For the record, I have never done that one.

[Count_D_Farat]

Originally posted by Drunken Whaler:

...or killing him but not letting his soul get claimed by Molag?

Soul Trap + Empty Black Soul Gem?

[SpeedFreak1972]

The only ones I did lately is Meridia, Sheogoraph, Herma Mora (the book) and Malacath. Those are somewhat acceptable for a good character.

[gnewna]

Originally posted by voehringer_nitron:

Eh, I'd say Namira's is worse. Om nom nom. :p

For the record, I have never done that one.

Ah, true...

[Brandybuck]

Originally posted by mpd1958:

Hey Drunken, if you want to get rid of an evil artifact where nobody will find it, do what I do, go for a swim in the Sea of Ghosts and drop it in the ocean.

Dump it in a random barrel and wait for it to respawn.

[Milunay]

Azura too. <3

[gnewna]

Originally posted by SpeedFreak1972:

The only ones I did lately is Meridia, Sheogoraph, Herma Mora (the book) and Malacath. Those are somewhat acceptable for a good character.

Mephala's actual quest (assuming you pickpocket rather than murdering) is fine, though obviously charging the reward item is... not.