PSA: draugr and skeletons are not vulnerable to fire

[[ λ³ ] nob]

The only undead vulnerable to fire are vampires.


Don't mind me, just busting a myth.

[Bottom of the Well]

Too bad the game didnt stay like Morrowind and earlier where only silver and magic weapons did any damage at all to the undead. I miss the fun stuff

[Bansheebutt]

Draugr are however, 50% resistant to Frost, so unless you want to use high cost Shock Magic, you should use Fire.

[[ λ³ ] nob]

Originally posted by Bernderbert:

Draugr are however, 50% resistant to Frost, so unless you want to use high cost Shock Magic, you should use Fire.

No... draugr are undead nords lore/storywise but not in game mechanics.

EDIT: I'm dumb, you're right. Draugr have frost resistance :P

[JellyPuff]

Originally posted by {λ³} Master Neloth:

Originally posted by Bernderbert:

Draugr are however, 50% resistant to Frost, so unless you want to use high cost Shock Magic, you should use Fire.

No... draugr are undead nords lore/storywise but not in game mechanics.

Silver still works, tho.
But he wasn't saying, they are weak to fire. It's just the most efficient element to use against them.

[gnewna]

Originally posted by {λ³} Master Neloth:

Originally posted by Bernderbert:

Draugr are however, 50% resistant to Frost, so unless you want to use high cost Shock Magic, you should use Fire.

No... draugr are undead nords lore/storywise but not in game mechanics.

UESP disagrees with you on the Frost thing, although not the fire thing, AFAIK you're right about that, but as Bernderbert says, fire magic is 'better value' than shock, especially against non-caster draugr (and against most living mages with vanillaish mechanics shock isn't as good as it sounds as their magicka pool often barely goes down in combat as they have hugely reduced magicka costs and so on, I believe.)

[[ λ³ ] nob]

Originally posted by gnewna:

Originally posted by {λ³} Master Neloth:

No... draugr are undead nords lore/storywise but not in game mechanics.

UESP disagrees with you on the Frost thing, although not the fire thing, AFAIK you're right about that, but as Bernderbert says, fire magic is 'better value' than shock, especially against non-caster draugr (and against most living mages with vanillaish mechanics shock isn't as good as it sounds as their magicka pool often barely goes down in combat as they have hugely reduced magicka costs and so on, I believe.)

Jesus I'm dumb... draugr do have frost resistance...

thanks for pointing that out! Learned something new today

[gnewna]

Hooray! But yes, I do tend to misremember them as actually being weak to fire, so this is a useful reminder :)

[wepfhwepfhp]

Originally posted by Randomplayerqwe:

Too bad the game didnt stay like Morrowind and earlier where only silver and magic weapons did any damage at all to the undead. I miss the fun stuff

That would make the game crazy hard, since Draugrs are present in almost half of the dungeons in the game. Also, the only way to get Silver Weapons is to complete a certain dungeon, which has - you guessed it! - Draugrs inside

[gnewna]

Ah, yes, but in Morrowind and Oblivion, silver was, IIRC, just another tier of weapons, certainly there were quite a few of them available, bows and such, too, I think. Mind you, from what I remember in those games it was actually "silver or better", so, say, glass weapons would work, as would anything enchanted - even a rubbish iron sword with the cheapest possible enchantment, although obviously a silver or better sword with a good fire cast-on-strike enchant would be better.

Mind you, I often play with Requiem which makes *only* silver weapons, or ones enchanted with fire (I think - maybe frost and shock enchantments also work, but not as well as fire IIRC) work on undead, or fire spells and such, and that's actually surprisingly playable, although it does make silver swords craftable (and places at least one silver weapon in a very convenient location...)

[Hare+Guu!]

A gentle breeze of wind kills skeletons though.

[76561198133591931]

Originally posted by Hare+Guu!:

A gentle breeze of wind kills skeletons though.

Yep. Why hit a skeleton? Just farting on one will kill it.

[Bottom of the Well]

Originally posted by 我不会说中国话:

Originally posted by Randomplayerqwe:

Too bad the game didnt stay like Morrowind and earlier where only silver and magic weapons did any damage at all to the undead. I miss the fun stuff

That would make the game crazy hard, since Draugrs are present in almost half of the dungeons in the game. Also, the only way to get Silver Weapons is to complete a certain dungeon, which has - you guessed it! - Draugrs inside

Yeah but it was baicly any material silver-up was good. So Iron/wood/steel wouldnt work

[Malvastor]

Originally posted by darkknight4321234:

Originally posted by Hare+Guu!:

A gentle breeze of wind kills skeletons though.

Yep. Why hit a skeleton? Just farting on one will kill it.

Except those blasted Castle Volkihar skeletons. I nearly got killed by those things when I first ran into one and it inexplicably didn't die from my first arrow.

[Stormsong]

Originally posted by Malvastor:

Except those blasted Castle Volkihar skeletons. I nearly got killed by those things when I first ran into one and it inexplicably didn't die from my first arrow.

OMG I know that feel lol, it happens with SIC skeletons too, though now I'm more prepared for it.

That first time though: "Just a couple skeletons and I'm in? No sweat. Just walk up and smack this one with my axe and- wait what? HE'S NOT DEAD. OH ♥♥♥♥ HE'S NOT DEAD DEFINITELY. NOT. DEAD!!"

[Metrod125]

Originally posted by gnewna:

Originally posted by {λ³} Master Neloth:

No... draugr are undead nords lore/storywise but not in game mechanics.

UESP disagrees with you on the Frost thing, although not the fire thing, AFAIK you're right about that, but as Bernderbert says, fire magic is 'better value' than shock, especially against non-caster draugr (and against most living mages with vanillaish mechanics shock isn't as good as it sounds as their magicka pool often barely goes down in combat as they have hugely reduced magicka costs and so on, I believe.)

Get Skytweak. http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/33395/?

You can use that mod to make things more fair by making the magic that NPCs use cost the same amount of magicka as the player with his or her spells.

Seriously, the mod is f**ckin amazing while being super simple and yet it is highly underrated.