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McJiggy Jan 16, 2021 @ 4:06pm
Not getting any smithing xp
I'm using the experience mod and it was working normally but for some reason I'm not getting any smithing xp, I'm at level 16 and any other skill will level up to its cap except smithing. Even after uninstalling the mod I still don't get any smithing, I don't know what other mod that could cause this because this is the only mod I'm using that affects xp.
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smr1957 Jan 16, 2021 @ 5:18pm 
Unfortunately, removing the mod won't fix it, if the mod was causing the issue, as the data is baked into the save. Your only options would be to go back to a save made before you
installed that mod, or start a new game - and those are the only options. For full details on why removing mods is bad and does not fix things, see:
You CANNOT Remove Mods Mid-Playthrough - http://steamcommunity.com/app/72850/discussions/0/1495615865205745360/

And, even if it was not the mod, you still cannot just unistall/diable it and then reinstall/enable on a later save - you would need to go back to the save made before you removed it and then reinstall/re-enable it (the reason for that is also explained in the above link).
Last edited by smr1957; Jan 16, 2021 @ 5:38pm
McJiggy Jan 16, 2021 @ 6:14pm 
It's just a plugin though and I didn't make any saves after having it uninstalled to see if it would fix the smithing problem.
Last edited by McJiggy; Jan 16, 2021 @ 6:15pm
smr1957 Jan 16, 2021 @ 6:24pm 
Then you should be good to go. However, it can still be some other mod, as sometimes mods will change things that are unrelated to what the main point of the mod is. So, it would be good to post your sorted load order so people can see if they recognize any potentially troublesome mods. To post your load order, just click on the 3 vertical dots in the upper right corner of the LOOT screen, click on copy load order from the drop-down menu, and then paste in the reply box.
Last edited by smr1957; Jan 16, 2021 @ 6:25pm
McJiggy Jan 16, 2021 @ 7:19pm 
Oh I never knew you could do that, this is what my load order is like right now.

0 0 Skyrim.esm
1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Dawnguard.esm
3 3 HearthFires.esm
4 4 Dragonborn.esm
5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
6 6 ETaC - RESOURCES.esm
7 7 WM Flora Fixes.esp
8 8 Night Eye Overhaul.esm
9 9 Unofficial Skyrim Modders Patch.esp
10 a notice board.esp
11 b RSkyrimChildren.esm
12 c Campfire.esm
13 d Vigilant.esm
14 e Gray Fox Cowl.esm
15 f RaceCompatibility.esm
16 10 Cutting Room Floor.esp
17 11 Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp
18 12 Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp
19 13 ETaC - Complete.esp
20 14 Footprints.esp
Random Vampire Attacks in Towns Disabled.esp
21 15 Enhanced Landscapes.esp
22 16 RLO - Interiors.esp
23 17 LegacyoftheDragonborn.esp
24 18 CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp
25 19 Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp
26 1a Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul.esp
YOT - Your Own Thoughts.esp
27 1b RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp
28 1c Enhanced Landscapes - Dead Marsh.esp
29 1d SoundsofSkyrimComplete.esp
30 1e DawnofSkyrim-AllMajorCities.esp
31 1f Weapons & Armor Fixes_Dragonborn.esp
32 20 Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp
33 21 Lakeview_Extended.esp
34 22 Immersive Orc Strongholds.esp
Weapons & Armor_TrueDaedricWeapons.esp
35 23 Weapons & Armor Fixes_Dawnguard.esp
36 24 Better Vampires.esp
37 25 CACO_RND_Patch.esp
38 26 RLO - Exteriors.esp
39 27 SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp
40 28 AKSkyrimUnderground.esp
41 29 Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp
42 2a Immersive Whiterun.esp
43 2b Immersive Solstheim.esp
44 2c Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
45 2d Skyrim Immersive Creatures - Patch.esp
46 2e Point The Way.esp
47 2f Thieves Guild Requirements.esp
48 30 Inconsequential NPCs.esp
49 31 SkyUI.esp
50 32 TradeBarter.esp
51 33 Wintermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp
Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp
52 34 Immersive Weapons.esp
DBM_CACO_Patch.esp
53 35 DBM_WAF_CCF_CCOR_Patch.esp
54 36 SpellResearch.esp
55 37 Run For Your Lives.esp
56 38 ETaC - Complete CRF Patch.esp
57 39 buildablehouse.esp
58 3a DBM_IWIA_Patch.esp
59 3b Clockwork.esp
60 3c Hunterborn.esp
61 3d Immersive Patrols II.esp
62 3e Phenderix Magic Evolved.esp
63 3f Skooming Skyrim by BigBizkit.esp
64 40 Enhanced Landscapes - Patch.esp
65 41 SMIM-ShackRoofFixes.esp
66 42 ETaC - Dragon Bridge South.esp
67 43 DBM_ImmersiveCreatures_Patch.esp
68 44 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
69 45 CollegeDaysWinterhold.esp
70 46 _tck_SpellCrafting.esp
71 47 YourMarketStall.esp
72 48 lanterns.esp
73 49 IcePenguinWorldMap.esp
74 4a GoToBed.esp
75 4b GoToBed-RealisticNeedsandDiseases-patch.esp
76 4c dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
77 4d Dragon Soul Relinquishment.esp
YOT - Better Vampires.esp
YOT - Campfire.esp
78 4e Bounty Gold.esp
79 4f Inconsequential NPCs - CRF Compatibility Patch.esp
FasterHorses_Sprint_x1_5.esp
80 50 SMIM-DragonbornTernFix.esp
81 51 SMIM-FarmhouseFlickeringFix.esp
SMIM-DungeonsCliffsIceSkirts.esp
SMIM-FurnitureChestSnowFix.esp
82 52 RSChildren.esp
83 53 CACO_ETaC_Patch.esp
RND_ETaC-Patch.esp
RSChildren - CRF Patch.esp
84 54 Auto Unequip Ammo.esp
85 55 NARC.esp
86 56 FNIS.esp
87 57 TKDodge.esp
dD-No Spinning Death Animation Merged.esp
88 58 UltimateDragons.esp
89 59 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
90 5a SkyFalls Dragonborn Small waterfalls.esp
91 5b ElysiumEstate.esp
92 5c RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp
93 5d Drinking Fountains of Skyrim.esp
94 5e SMIM-RiftenDocksRopesObjectFix.esp
95 5f DA_Skyship.esp
96 60 DBM_DASkyship_Addon.esp
97 61 SMIM-SolitudeDocksFixes.esp
98 62 DBM_CRF_Patch.esp
99 63 bhabhilon.esp
100 64 Vampirelordroyal.esp
101 65 Equippable Tomes.esp
102 66 EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp
103 67 DeadlyMutilation.esp
104 68 Brevi_MoonlightTales.esp
105 69 ESFCompanions.esp
106 6a ArtOfTheCatch.esp
107 6b My Home Is Your Home.esp
sandboxcylinderheight.esp
108 6c Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp
109 6d RND_DrinkingFountains-Patch.esp
110 6e Hunterborn_RND-Patch.esp
111 6f Hunterborn_Campfire_Patch.esp
112 70 Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
BVandRoyalBloodline_Patch.esp
113 71 GoToBed-Hunterborn-patch.esp
114 72 Hunterborn_LanternsAndCandles-Patch.esp
115 73 Hunterborn_WearableLantern-Patch.esp
YOT - Wearable Lanterns.esp
YOT - Hunterborn.esp
116 74 SMIM-ShackRoofFixesDragonborn.esp
ETaC - Complete RS Patch.esp
117 75 NEO Prolonged Spell.esp
118 76 Night Eye Overhaul.esp
119 77 College of Winterhold Entry Requirements (Normal).esp
120 78 Character Creation Overhaul.esp
121 79 CCO - Dynamic Skill Progression.esp
122 7a CCO - Diverse Races And Genders.esp
123 7b Convenient Horses.esp
124 7c LPBards.esp
125 7d BloodmoonRising.esp
126 7e Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
CCO_SIC_Patch.esp
127 7f TGNoToNocturnal.esp
128 80 LostGrimoire.esp
129 81 CharacterMakingExtender.esp
130 82 HouseOfHorrorsAlternateEnding.esp
131 83 GypsyEyesCaravan.V.2.esp
132 84 Equippable Tomes - Campfire Add-On.esp
133 85 UltimateCombat.esp
134 86 RLO - Effects.esp
135 87 RLO - CRF Patch.esp
136 88 towConversation.esp
137 89 DBM_SkyrimUnderground_Patch.esp
DBM_ESFCompanions_Patch.esp
DBM_RND_Patch.esp
138 8a Vigilant Voiced.esp
139 8b Predator Vision.esp
140 8c Purewaters.esp
RND_PureWaters-Patch.esp
141 8d RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp
RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp
142 8e Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
143 8f Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp
CWIOrdinatorPatch.esp
144 90 Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp
145 91 RLO - IC Patch.esp
146 92 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
147 93 ETaC - Complete AS-LAL Patch.esp
148 94 BFT Ships and Carriages.esp
149 95 ETaC - Complete BFT Patch.esp
150 96 Bashed Patch, 0.esp
McJiggy Jan 18, 2021 @ 11:55am 
So nobody knows what's wrong? Not even trainers can get my skill to level up, the only thing that works is using console command and only the setav command not the advance one.
Last edited by McJiggy; Jan 18, 2021 @ 11:56am
smr1957 Jan 18, 2021 @ 2:28pm 
Try verifying the game files. See:
Validating master files by Ilja - http://steamcommunity.com/app/72850/discussions/0/535150948617437868/

Try starting a new game without that mod (or roll back to a save made prior to having installed that mod - if there is one) - it may have changed something that is now baked into the save. If smithing now works than that was indeed the culprit and any save made with that mos installed is borked, as I explained in my first post,

Those are the easy first tests. If neither works, then you will need to go the whole troubleshooting route.

To troubleshoot your build, first, to test, turning off mods is not the way to go - any bad info may have been baked into the save. The way to test is to start off with a vanilla save (or a save that only has the mods you absolutely know are safe) - one made where the issues occur so it is easy to test - and then add in groups of mods till you find the one causing the issue - making a manual save each time so you can roll back when the issues occurs and zero in on the specific mod. And although that may be time consuming, often it is far better and quicker using that systematic approach than trying to guess willy-nilly which mod it is (unless one of us happens to spot a mod we know is a problem when you post a load order).

Second, once you do find which mod is causing the issue, and have removed it, you cannot continue using the same save, again due to how Skyrim bakes data into the save (and this data CANNOT be removed - despite what some may say). You must either go back to a save made prior to having installed the removed/disabled mod, or start a new game. There is no other option - unless the mod is one of the exceptions mentioned in the linked discussion of my first post.
McJiggy Jan 26, 2021 @ 12:44pm 
Well I dunno what happened but i'm getting smithing xp again after giving Bulimund fire salts for his forge and got some training from him.
Last edited by McJiggy; Jan 26, 2021 @ 12:44pm
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