Why Skyrim has such a boring leveling system compared to RuneScape?

[Charlemagne]

I love both Skyrim and Runescape but i noticed that leveling something like Smithing in Skyrim is so boring, meanwhile in Runescape you can grind for hours. Why does it feel so different?

[Banzai]

Because runescape is built around the OCD levelling system and skyrim is more focused on exploration, dungeons, story, etc.

[Charlemagne]

Originally posted by Banzai:

Because runescape is built around the OCD levelling system and skyrim is more focused on exploration, dungeons, story, etc.

But it's almost the same thing. You do the skill over and over and you level up

[Banzai]

Originally posted by Charlemagne:

But it's almost the same thing. You do the skill over and over and you level up

Yes, but it's presented in a more "boring" practical way, no +1 with an icon floating up every few seconds etc. like in runescape. I suspect they deliberately made it like that so you don't get stuck in that dopamine loop at crafting stations, and instead you're out exploring the world they took so much time to make.

[*StonedKills*Goblin]

Originally posted by Charlemagne:

I love both Skyrim and Runescape but i noticed that leveling something like Smithing in Skyrim is so boring, meanwhile in Runescape you can grind for hours. Why does it feel so different?

Well I know the classic and original way to level smithing is crafting iron daggers. But yes the overall crafting system and such in Skyrim v cant even hold a candle to Runescapes skills their grind to level them up and its crafting.

[Dexter]

Isn't Runescape like MMO? Not single player game... like Skyrim is... also, Skyrim is much much toned down to get as much audience as it is possible. Pretty much every aspect of Skyrim is very very shallow.

[Charlemagne]

Originally posted by Dexter:

Isn't Runescape like MMO? Not single player game... like Skyrim is... also, Skyrim is much much toned down to get as much audience as it is possible. Pretty much every aspect of Skyrim is very very shallow.

Runescape is an mmo but it plays like a single player rpg. You do quests and level up alone

[nordstern]

I like the leveling system of the talents. But the levels of the characters really suck. Maybe with the next TES we get a better character display. Because currently we have effects like increase critchance (sword specialization) without knowing the base crit or critdamage.

I think not we should get in TES stats on the items. Thats not TES. But the ability to diverse our level up points better, would be nice. So instead of Health, Magicka and Endurance i can choose between these three and agility, strengh, intelligence to increase range, meele or magic damage and maybe luck (critchance).
And with such a system the races have more impact to the game. Because for example lvlpoints limited to 100 every startingpoint makes a small differance. I also would like to see different limits. So maybe a woodelf can reach more then 100 archery. Not op, not forcing a race. But for example if they have +5 agility, you can have 105 agilitypoints instead of 100. And if you have as woodelf -5 health (because of not so stabil build) only 95 points.

[Dimlhugion]

Originally posted by Charlemagne:

Originally posted by Dexter:

Isn't Runescape like MMO? Not single player game... like Skyrim is... also, Skyrim is much much toned down to get as much audience as it is possible. Pretty much every aspect of Skyrim is very very shallow.

Runescape is an mmo but it plays like a single player rpg. You do quests and level up alone

"Massively Multiplayer Online" games only play "like a single player RPG" if you personally decide to play it as one. That doesn't mean they're the same experience, that doesn't mean they're intended to be the same, and that doesn't mean comparing the two makes any single modicum of sense.

You're basically saying "driving a car is like walking because they both move me geographically and I do it alone." That's not even apples to oranges. That's apples to fruit rollups.

[Charlemagne]

Originally posted by Dimlhugion:

Originally posted by Charlemagne:

Runescape is an mmo but it plays like a single player rpg. You do quests and level up alone

"Massively Multiplayer Online" games only play "like a single player RPG" if you personally decide to play it as one. That doesn't mean they're the same experience, that doesn't mean they're intended to be the same, and that doesn't mean comparing the two makes any single modicum of sense.

You're basically saying "driving a car is like walking because they both move me geographically and I do it alone." That's not even apples to oranges. That's apples to fruit rollups.

You sound like those Reddit users and Discord mods that everyone makes fun of

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHXmsBz2tz8

[Dimlhugion]

Doesn't matter what I "sound like."

What matters is you didn't have a valid counterpoint.

Your post is literally "I play MMO's incorrectly and I think Skyrim is a bad MMO." This only makes sense in your head.