The Dark Elves in Windhelm

[Mephilel]

The situation with the dark elves in windhelm makes me feel sorrowful for them. Is there a way to help the situation of the dakr elves?

[Taiwan Number One]

^ Unity, eh? Best inform the Imperials that killing your own is the opposite of that.

[Shuruia]

引用自 Steve Saint James：

^ Unity, eh? Best inform the Imperials that killing your own is the opposite of that.

Says the Stormcloak supporter. So deliciously and unmeticulously ironic.

Come back to me when you realise that the Stormcloaks are bleeding their own province dry within the wishes of the foreign enemy that they sought to antagonise in the first place. I'd recommend spending more than 6.4 hours in the game to construct a more informed opinion on the grand scheme of things.

[Taiwan Number One]

The Stormcloaks are merely a reaction to the Empire betraying its own citizens. Can you blame them?

[Shuruia]

引用自 Steve Saint James：

The Stormcloaks are merely a reaction to the Empire betraying it's own citizens. Can you blame them?

Yes. They cannot see the long-term consequences they have wrought.

Ulfric is a Thalmor sleeper agent whether he likes it or not.

The Stormcloaks' nationalistic values chafe with non-Nord individuals.

The civil war (especially vexing in tune with the Dragon Crisis) was started by the Stormcloaks alongside premeditation by the Thalmor.

The White-Gold Concordat is NOT a betrayal, it is a sacrifice. It's actually a favour to the northern provincials. Either that or a miracle.

http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Thalmor_Dossier:_Ulfric_Stormcloak

Ulfric believes his own intentions to be good, but he simply cannot be trusted, along with any who would call themselves Stormcloaks. There is too much at stake for Skyrim's future.

[pleasenoname3]

Clearly the Thalmor and Stormcloaks fight each other in the game though.

[Shuruia]

引用自 pleasenoname3：

Clearly they fight each other in the game though.

I've already addressed this in a previous post.

The Stormcloaks and Thalmor are enemies, but the Thalmor premeditated the Stormcloak Rebellion to weaken Skyrim and the Empire, both of which are harmful to Skyrim's interests in the long-term. The Thalmor have no business interfering with the war, as Elenwen is quick to remind you of.

The Thalmor are only in Skyrim to play the role of the Spanish Inquisition. The Stormcloaks obviously detest such a scenario and react accordingly. Make no mistake, they are enemies but the Stormcloaks serve Aldmeri interests by costing men and resources of both their own province and that of the Dominion's sworn enemy: the Empire.

Music to the Thalmor's ears.

[pleasenoname3]

All that is in your head though. The other guy clearly saw them fighting each other in game.

[Shuruia]

引用自 pleasenoname3：

All that is in your head though. The other guy clearly saw them fighting each other in game.

Did you even read what I just said? It isn't a matter of disacknowledgement. None of it is "in my head", it's supported by actual lore and in-game documents.

[pleasenoname3]

Irrelevent. Look at the action. I wanted this type of gameplay, but people keep obsessing over sides.

[Shuruia]

引用自 pleasenoname3：

Irrelevent. Look at the action. I wanted this type of gameplay, but people keep obsessing over sides.

Then others' opinions on fictional politics should not concern your ilk.

"Irrelevant."

[Taiwan Number One]

@ Shuruia of Inverness and Orkney

No, the White-Gold Concordat was a betrayal. Many Talos worshippers fought and died in that war only for the Emperor to sail them down the river when there was no need as the war was in a stalemate. You think the Dominion would've accepted a treaty if they could've achieved complete domination?

[Shuruia]

引用自 Steve Saint James：

no need as the war was in a stalemate.

I love it when people mention this.

No, no and 100% no. The only Aldmeri army that was destroyed was Naarifin's. The entire Imperial Legion was rendered unfit to continue warfare any longer after 4E 175. There is absolutely NO indication that it's a stalemate, with the exception of Hammerfell (who have never been successfully invaded, except by the Akaviri-driven Second Empire.)

[Zefram Cochrane]

引用自 Steve Saint James：

The Stormcloaks are merely a reaction to the Empire betraying its own citizens. Can you blame them?

No I guess I can't blame them, they are short sighted bigoted morons though. Just like all ultra nationalists wherever they're found. Can't see beyond the end of their own noses.

[King Yuri]

引用自 Shuruia of Inverness and Orkney：

引用自 THE JOKER：

im talking about when the domion launch there plan and invade the empire

then the Alliance save it

so AKlir
Skyrim
empire

against the domimion

and i dont know about argonia

This is all just theoretics, though. Hammerfell falls short in foreign warfare and an independent Skyrim would have to deal with their resource and population issues.

And to return to the purpose of the thread at hand, an Imperial-controlled Skyrim would cater to the entire population as it always has. This also includes Nords. It's all about the sense of unity.

The Thalmor are utter geniuses. They're not to be underestimated. It's best to prepare in the long-term. Legate Rikke is a Nord who realises this. She feels sympathy for the Stormcloak cause, but serves the Empire for what she believes is a better future for Skyrim.

nah empire would ababadone skyrim if worst came to worst

do you have a map of tamriel i can borrow prefebly one with strategic points

[King Yuri]

引用自 Zefram Cochrane：

引用自 Steve Saint James：

The Stormcloaks are merely a reaction to the Empire betraying its own citizens. Can you blame them?

No I guess I can't blame them, they are short sighted bigoted morons though. Just like all ultra nationalists wherever they're found. Can't see beyond the end of their own noses.

be quiet