Help! XB1 user. Irileth won't spawn issue.

[Blackkat]

This is the first this has happened to me in the 10 years I've played. After speaking to Whiteruns court wizard, Irileth has failed to spawn, which would continue the main quest line. She is no where to be found. Apparently other players have come across this issue. There maybe a way to fix this in the console commands on a PC. But, is there a way to correct this in the XB1. I've tried reloading to an earlier save many times. I went as far back as the final boss in Bleak Falls Borrow. It might be a mod causing the issue. I may try tiring off all my mods and see if that works. I'll leave an update in the comments.

[alexander_dougherty]

turning off mods won't help, skyrim bakes data from mods into saves, so unless you start a new game after turning off the mods you won't be able to diagnose which one is the problem...

Essentially Xbox users are in the same boat as PS4 users, all we can suggest is load an earlier save, wait several in game days, or start a new game...

[alexander_dougherty]

also from se forum

Originally posted by smr1957:

They are on the console, as they said in their post.

Unfortunately, you are limited when using the console.
If reloading an older save did not work, try this:
From https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Dragon_Rising Bugs section:
"Irileth may not always appear.
To fix this, wait in one hour increments and she should appear."

That site, https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Skyrim , is a great place to look for information regarding Skyrim, though, of course, you must beware of spoilers.

if that does not work, it may be a mod you are using - but since you cannot remove mods midplaythrough, the only option (if you did not have a save to go back to from before the mod was installed) would be to start a new game. Removing the mod and continuing will just break things further, as the data has been baked into the save.

Hopefully waiting will work. Let us know.

And chin and spirits up! I had a friend who had Lupus (have since lost touch with her) and she did fine. Important thing is to engage in activities that take your mind off of it - easier said than done, I know, but playing games is definitely one way of doing that. I wish you all the very best!

Good luck, and a late happy Valentine's Day!

[Blackkat]

I started a new game. Nothing has changed. I don't know what to do now.

I miss having a PC now. Without consol commands, I don't know how else to work around it. This effects the main quest line which essentially makes Skyrim unplayable.

[Lobo de hielo]

Do you have a friend with Skyrim on pc?
Just a thought, maybe copy your save over to a pc, sort out your save file, then copy back.

[Lobo de hielo]

Another thought is find someone better at hex edit than me, and alter the save.
Just took a look at a save and could find 1 mention of a Irileth scene and 2 concerning the quest, but what would need to be changed, have no idea.

[smr1957]

Originally posted by slayor3000:

Do you have a friend with Skyrim on pc?
Just a thought, maybe copy your save over to a pc, sort out your save file, then copy back.

Originally posted by slayor3000:

Another thought is find someone better at hex edit than me, and alter the save.
Just took a look at a save and could find 1 mention of a Irileth scene and 2 concerning the quest, but what would need to be changed, have no idea.

Saves CANNOT be fixed or edited - no one should even be suggesting that it may be remotely possible - IT IS NOT! Once data in a save has been changed, it is PERMANENTLY changed and cannot be reversed. Not even Bethesda has ever found a way to do so. Any attempt to do what slayor3000 has said, will permanently break a save, if it does not result in an outright corrupted save message.

The following, though it refers to the removal of mods, applies to ALL information contained in a save:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/72850/discussions/0/1495615865205745360/

[smr1957]

Blackkat, I assume that you tried waiting. The only other thing I can suggest is to just hold off on doing that section of the main quest line for a bit. I would also ask if you have ever seen Irileth in Dragonreach? I have never played on console but the way the game works should not be too different.

Also, since you are playing SSE please post in your thread there, and not here. There are some people more familiar with the console (and a modded console) than here, and you will therefore get the best and most appropriate advice.

[Lobo de hielo]

Originally posted by smr1957:

Originally posted by slayor3000:

Do you have a friend with Skyrim on pc?
Just a thought, maybe copy your save over to a pc, sort out your save file, then copy back.

Originally posted by slayor3000:

Another thought is find someone better at hex edit than me, and alter the save.
Just took a look at a save and could find 1 mention of a Irileth scene and 2 concerning the quest, but what would need to be changed, have no idea.

Saves CANNOT be fixed or edited - no one should even be suggesting that it may be remotely possible - IT IS NOT! Once data in a save has been changed, it is PERMANENTLY changed and cannot be reversed. Not even Bethesda has ever found a way to do so. Any attempt to do what slayor3000 has said, will permanently break a save, if it does not result in an outright corrupted save message.

The following, though it refers to the removal of mods, applies to ALL information contained in a save:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/72850/discussions/0/1495615865205745360/

Say this bit again, "Saves CANNOT be fixed or edited".
Really strange that almost or over 6 years ago some XBox 360 people (before mods got to the console) were hexing saves to add items etc.
Never said it was easy, its damn hard and I would not do it. I only hex in a few games on backed up saves.
It does completely alter the save and is done at risk, but, if tried everything else and no hope of getting it to work, then the save is ballsed up anyway.

But definitely agree about posting this in the appropriate forum and finding other console players to help.

[alexander_dougherty]

Originally posted by slayor3000:

Originally posted by smr1957:

Saves CANNOT be fixed or edited - no one should even be suggesting that it may be remotely possible - IT IS NOT! Once data in a save has been changed, it is PERMANENTLY changed and cannot be reversed. Not even Bethesda has ever found a way to do so. Any attempt to do what slayor3000 has said, will permanently break a save, if it does not result in an outright corrupted save message.

The following, though it refers to the removal of mods, applies to ALL information contained in a save:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/72850/discussions/0/1495615865205745360/

Say this bit again, "Saves CANNOT be fixed or edited".
Really strange that almost or over 6 years ago some XBox 360 people (before mods got to the console) were hexing saves to add items etc.
Never said it was easy, its damn hard and I would not do it. I only hex in a few games on backed up saves.
It does completely alter the save and is done at risk, but, if tried everything else and no hope of getting it to work, then the save is ballsed up anyway.

Can't speak about xbox saves, but the PC saves can't be editted, nobody outside of bethesda understands the format.....

[smr1957]

Well, considering Bethesda can't even do it and has said it can't be done, and both Arthmoor and myself have not heard of a single instance of it, I seriously doubt anyone else's claims to the contrary.

[Lobo de hielo]

This is from about 8 years ago - Xbox 360
Said it was not easy, but very long winded just to add an item. Glad they have console mods now for those that use the console (not me, i use pc). There is also an app out there somewhere, had it once, which uses hex as its base, but extremely messy to use.

This is a guide for how to hex edit items and some items to hex edit.If you're like me then you're angry on how Bethesda made several items unobtainable.

The hex editing we will be doing is simply taking a save file and changing a few numbers and letters to get almost any item you want (changing gold in a barrel into 200000000 gold or an apple to dragon scale armor) this is very basic and with enough work you could probably hex edit yourself into the testing room.

I'm pretty sure my guide isn't missing any steps. If you have any questions just ask and I'll edit my guide accordingly.

Warning: Messing up could ruin your save and possibly corrupt other saves on your usb.


Preset up

What you need:

A usb device flash drive with 1 gb of room formatted for Xbox storage use (This is the minimum that will work from what I'm told. Mine is 8 gb and 2 gb reserved for Xbox use)
Horizon
Hex workshop
At least 1000 gold
An item you don't care to lose


1.Download Horizon (xboxmb) and Hex workshop (hexworkshop) Just google to find the sites

2. Open Horizon to check if it works

3. If Horizon has an error try to re-download and if that doesn't work look it up on xboxmb. I had a problem involving something along the lines of a virtual machine could not be loaded. What worked for me was C:\Users\<yourname>\AppData\Local then deleting xenocode and re-downloading Horizon


Now those are out of the way onto the fun.

1. Find a container any container doesn't matter where (I used a barrel in whiterun)

2. Place anything over 1000 gold in the barrel, yes it must be over 1000 gold and one item, make sure to write down how much gold you put in. More than one item may make it impossible to find the barrel in hex workshop because of how heavily compressed saves are.
(I placed 1234 gold and boots)

3. Save your game and transfer it to your usb


Now actually editing it

1. Open Horizon and Hex Workshop

2. You'll see your usb on the window to the right in Horizon that says device explorer

3. Open your device go to games then skyrim

4. Double click your save and go to contents

5. Right click savegame.dat and select extract

6. Save it to your desktop or where ever you want

7. open savegame.dat in Hex workshop

8. go to edit then find

9. Change type to 32 bit signed long and click the boxes that say little endian and find all instances

10. Enter how much gold you put in the container in the value region (The number that pops up in the hex region is your gold value in hex) then click OK.

Example: I set 1234 gold in my container the hex value is D2040000

11.Click each result that came up in the bottom right corner untill you find 40000F followed by your gold hex value. If you don't find your gold value either you didn't put over a thousand gold or it simply isn't showing up. In this case go back to your save and take everything out of the container and store it again.

Note: 40000F is the form id for gold, well its actually 0000000F but we will get to this part later.

Example: I searched through each instance of D2040000 until I found 40000FD2040000.

12. After your gold hex value should be the form id of the item (find on uesp to make sure) after that should be 01 which the hex value of 1 item being in the container but that isn't important. If the hex value for your item isn't there go back to your save and remove then store everything in the container

Example: 40000F D2040000 0041be1b 01 the third value is the form id of my boots I see. 0001be1b is the actual form Id, but notice the 4 in the third spot.

13. You are now going to change the form id of the old item to the form id of the item you want. To do this you take the form id of the new item (Find it on uesp) and add 4 to the third number in the id. To change the id highlight 1 column at a time and right click. Select insert and type the form id two numbers at a time into "fill with the following hex byte" and hit ok

Example: I want psijic robes so im going to take its form id 00065b94 add 4 to the third number 00465b94 and replace it so now my code looks likes this 40000F D2040000 00465b94. Some items like all those unobtainable robe have form ids with numbers other than 0 in the third number in this case you add 4 to that number. Red robes form id 0010cff2 becomes 0050cff2

14.When your done changing the ID go to file then save as and overwrite your old savegame.dat make sure this save has the same name

15. In horizon get back to your save game and go back to contents

16. Right click savegame.dat and click replace and wait for the confirmation.

17. Click save, rehash, and resign and you're done

Congrats, you now have hex edited your save now test it out to see if your save works then move it over to your main storage device and you're good to go


Form Id's of Unobtainable Items

Form ids of all items can be found on uesp.net

Some items such as nocturnal's robes and greybeard's robes cannot be equipped without console commands so they will not be listed.

p.s look at that, i put the wrong code in.