The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim

The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim

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H3000 Mar 7, 2024 @ 3:21am
MER VS MEN. Why Thalmor & Mer is the most misunderstood faction & race.
I know most people might feel for the Stormcloaks when their god Talos is in the progress of being outlawed by the Empire through the High Elven Thalmor faction who wants to prove to all of Tamriel that Mer are superior over Men.
At first i thought the Stormcloaks were the real good guys, but after doing some research into the elder scrolls lore about the ancient world, where it all started, it suddenly became much clearer to me that Mer indeed are superior to Men, because their goal is to overcome Lorkhan - the god of mortality & the mortal plane who was sent to Nirn by Sithis.
Lorkhan is a devil god who stole the immortality of all beings on Nirn and transformed everyone into fleshly mortals. He moved the entire creation from immortals in the spirit realm into mortals in the flesh world. (Like Hades & Quetzalcoatl & Hecate send by Satan).

BUT Men, especially Nords, & Imperials too worship Lorkhan because they see him as their creator when in fact he is a trickster god who robbed creation of their highest potential (IMMORTALITY AND SPIRIT FORM - a higher state of life). This is why i now see Ulfric Stormcloak as a shortsighted foolish leader, but i will admit i used to think he was the better man, he has pride issues & a narrow minded vision. Nords in general are a bit macho-cultured which is not a divine thing, macho means clumsy & overly masculine dominant.

Do i think Talos is an actual god? Well to some extent but i don't see him as big as all the other gods, he used to be a mortal man so he can't have grown into the same level as Kynareth ot the other divines. Anyway he does grant blessings to those who are able to recieve his powers, like people who are able to shout - Ulfric - The Dragonborn player - but also Miraak who abuses the power. This proves he ascended to.. some godhood.
But aside from that, Talos's blessings in shouts aren't really that widespread.
Then he is also the god of governance & war, and considered the symbolic god of Man.
BUT do you know how barbarous the nords are throughout elder scrolls history?
Nords have exterminated elven races because of their lust for superiority.
Nords exterminated the snow elves - Falmer.
Nords exterminated the ayleids.
Nords have a weakness of macho - overly masculine dominant - shortsightedness - prideful etc. This makes them dangerous in a bad way. Yes they are powerful warriors but their cause is immature.
I undestand why the Thalmor behave the way they do in Skyrim because nobody sees where their politics are coming from. High Elves are higher mannered indeed, they have a broader perspective on the world situation, they even claim to only wanting to do whats best for all of Tamriel and they are irritated how most of Skyrim treats them as conquering snobs. They're not snobs they are the most misunderstood faction.

Once you see the bigger picture, Talos becomes irrelevant because Talos is nobody without Lorkhan. Talos may be a god, but he's a minor god, he's influence resides in Mundus (Mortal Plane). Elves wants the world to ascend to Spirit Plane, and that's where Talos becomes useless. Nords just wants to be barbarous macho warriors with their mead & gals and breeding & family ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.
Nords are not superior, they have a bad history of warmongery.
Elves are the true leaders over all mer & men. They want ultimate piece on Nirn which shatters the worldview of old-timer-Nords. Elves holds the true plan for the evolution of all. Overcome mortality so that survival of the fittest is no more.
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They want ultimate peace on Nirn?
The peace of the Grave can be described as ultimate I supposed.

And going backwards is not as great a path as you make out, Lorkhan made them Mundus to get them to EVOLVE, to become more than what they were. Which if they ascended like Talos and Arkay, they would be. Instead they want to wimp out and go backwards, because they are opposed to all change, even personal growth.

Not going to pretend Humans are great in TES universe, but none of the races are that great, they are all racist warmongers, but the Thalmor are the worst of the lot (and given that includes the Sload, that's some doing)
Rez Elwin Mar 7, 2024 @ 7:48pm 
Lorkhan, or Shor to the Nords is the mastermind behind Mundus, yes it was a trick, but he did create humanity in the process. So by whatever the means it was he who created the Mortal Races.

Ulfric however does not care about Lorkhan, his issue is the Ban of Talos, well the treaty as a whole. Talos IS a god, his blood was used in Oblivon as aedric blood and his Blessing works, so he is an Aedra.
Do you know WHY the nords (actually Atmorans) attacked the Elves? Because they atacked first, detailed in the Night of Tears, the Snow Elves grew fearful of the Atmotans who were growing faster than the elves, Ysgramor survived, went back to Atmora, gathered his men and returned to Skyrim in retaliation, it had nothing to do with superiority.

The Ayleids enslaved all humans, and it was way more than Nordic people, if you want to blame anyone, it would Alessia and Pelinal.

The elves don't want peace, they want to exterminate everyone who isn't with them.
From the The Infernal City novel.
"but their goal is clear--the pacification and purification of all of Tamriel--to bring about a new Merethic Era"

I agree with the Nordic Macho detail, that's true, Nords value masculinity and warriors, they are distrustful of magic and don't compromise. Nords like to fight, drink, and ♥♥♥♥.
One of their main goals is to die with honor and enter Sovengard.
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Date Posted: Mar 7, 2024 @ 3:21am
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