master spells useless

[sebo]

i'm like level 55 have destruction skill at 100, about 300 points in magic, 270 in health, and 200 stamina. i can't even cast firestorm once because it requires 600 magic, like wth? basically if you want to use master destruction spells you have to invest ALL your points into magic which is pretty lame. even with the master spell cost half skill perk, i can only cast firestorm once.. it's bad enough playing mage is pretty weak in this game, but this really is stupid to require to much investment into magic points. looks like im off to exploit for some 10000 magic points gear...

[SpeedFreak1972]

well you can always use enchanting: circlets that reduce the cast cost, rings and enchanted robes that boost your magica I mean enchanting is a must. Oh and most items are just bug standard ingame items.

[sebo]

yeah but then i'd have to pick regen vs cost. right now i have my regen at around 350-400% rate using robe, mask, a ring and the 2 points in restoration for 50% magic regen.

i'm probably just going to use that loop enchanting potion to create a massive potion to enchant a ring or amulet for tons of magic points.

i don't know what Bethesda was thinking when they created these master skills, it's no wonder most people skip playing Mage in this game.. perhaps they want you to be level 100+ to use master spells which would require reset of many skill perks to even get that high level since im only lvl 50~ and have many 80-100 level skills.

[76561198034396398]

playing as a mage never put points into stamina all health and magika use enchanting with a bit of alchemy to enchant your gear to lower the cost of spells and a good staff,but yeah i've played mage and just trying to kill a dragon with spells is almost useless,not to mention bandits one shot kill you with arrows

[sebo]

i put some points in stamina since that is tied to your carry capacity, even if i had invested those points in magic it still wouldn't have helped much. i made a typo in the OP, firestorm is actually 660 not 600..

[The Rock God]

Originally posted by sebo:

yeah but then i'd have to pick regen vs cost. right now i have my regen at around 350-400% rate using robe, mask, a ring and the 2 points in restoration for 50% magic regen.

You have 400% regen?
Want to know what's even better?
100% cost reduction. I can cast firestorm for zero magicka.

[Dexter]

If you want to be able to cast master level spells more frequently, level enchanting.

As a mage, leveling enchanting early on to enchant items for spell cost reduction is one way to become more powerful and cast spells way before you should be able to.

The easiest way to level enchanting is to use a weapon with soul trap and the Black Star to capture grand souls to recharge the soul trap weapon after every kill while using the mages stone and a sleeping bonus.

[Soto928]

Originally posted by The Rock God:

Originally posted by sebo:

yeah but then i'd have to pick regen vs cost. right now i have my regen at around 350-400% rate using robe, mask, a ring and the 2 points in restoration for 50% magic regen.

You have 400% regen?
Want to know what's even better?
100% cost reduction. I can cast firestorm for zero magicka.

This is the proper way of doing things.

[sebo]

Originally posted by Soto928:

Originally posted by The Rock God:

You have 400% regen?
Want to know what's even better?
100% cost reduction. I can cast firestorm for zero magicka.

This is the proper way of doing things.

it would be quite boring i would assume to have no depleting/unlimited mana..

[just.nuke.em]

Firestorm is dumb skill anyway. You have to be smack in the middle of enemies to make it any useful. And if you are smack in the middle as a mage, you will be dead very soon anyway. Useless. I'd rather spam fireball from a distance.

[Fluffy but dangerous]

Most of the master level spells are pretty usless, and I would only get it to look cool. I mean, all of them require channling while standing in the middle of enemies which is a death sentence for a squishy mage.
I would stay with expert spells and just use potions to increase the damage.

[Arvyn]

You can use Ethereal Form shout before casting the spell...