The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim

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Simple Man 4 ABR 2016 a las 14:38
Serana: to cure or not to cure?
Do ya cure, do ya let her stay a vampire?

Is making a vampire mortal even curing at all, or more like giving her a disease of decay and eventual death?
Última edición por Simple Man; 4 ABR 2016 a las 15:04
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Docsprock 4 ABR 2016 a las 15:21 
She is already dead. A cure would bring her back alive. I usually get her cured. Then never speak to her again.

:D
Moonjunk 4 ABR 2016 a las 15:56 
I can't. Everytime I ask she says that she won't talk about it with me
Simple Man 4 ABR 2016 a las 16:22 
Theres a very specific way you have to talk to her. If you messed up or weren't aware you can revert the part about curing and make her receptive again. From the wiki:
You can reverse the effects of your choices in conversation by typing the following into the console: SetPapyrusQuestVar DLC1NPCMentalModel ToldPlayerSheDidntWantCure_var False
That will just make Serana forget about whatever it is you talked about vampirism, and you can now redo that "have you ever thought about getting cured" part of the convo.
Solomon Hawk 5 ABR 2016 a las 5:25 
I talked with Serana during one of my playthroughs and convinced her to cure her vampirism.
She still had her vampiric powers and her typical dislike of things in daylight. Her dialog hasn't changed. (which I found disappointing) I thought she might begin to enjoy the warmth of the sun on her skin for a change.
Her eyes did become a pretty color though.
She won't marry, but I've accepted that.
Thunderdrake3 5 ABR 2016 a las 8:38 
Umm... Being a vampire isn't actually all that great, unless you like the power and all that. But she herself says that the insatiable thirst is unpleasant, and if you get her cured she doesn't regret it. I like her cured, but that's partially 'cuz I don't like vampires :)
Simple Man 5 ABR 2016 a las 14:41 
I ended up not curing her this time around. Well i did, but then reverted to a previous save in order not to.

On one hand she talks about not wanting a cure or even talking about it, on the other she says she feels alive for once (dialogue when cured) so that was the biggest pro i was looking at. But then again, once she does get cured she still acts just like a vampire, wears a hood, talks of the sun, uses vampiric drain etc, only difference are her eyes. The Dawnguard also hinted the benefits of having a vampire on their side.

From there, i found myself asking a (good) vampire to become mortal, to decay and die, because reasons,all while im going up the street in whiterun working on becoming a mutant myself, more specifically a Weerewolf. I couldn't find the moral highground to tell her what to do xD plus, i might marry her. Vampire meets Werewolf.
Rin 28 NOV 2021 a las 13:04 
No major drawbacks if you do choose to cure her of vampirism. She just won't be immune to frost attack or make Bloodcursed Elven arrows. Her pupils also change.
alexander_dougherty 29 NOV 2021 a las 1:24 
Publicado originalmente por Im doing my part!:
Do ya cure, do ya let her stay a vampire?

Is making a vampire mortal even curing at all, or more like giving her a disease of decay and eventual death?
Vampires are Undead, their souls doomed to Molag Bal.... Curing her and giving her a chance to save her soul from that fate outweighs the reduction of her time on Tamriel.
no1schmo 29 NOV 2021 a las 20:31 
Publicado originalmente por alexander_dougherty:
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Do ya cure, do ya let her stay a vampire?

Is making a vampire mortal even curing at all, or more like giving her a disease of decay and eventual death?
Vampires are Undead, their souls doomed to Molag Bal.... Curing her and giving her a chance to save her soul from that fate outweighs the reduction of her time on Tamriel.

Maybe. We really don't know the mechanics of who gets what soul very well. I guess as a Nord, she's inclined towards Sovngarde, but after many, many centuries as a vampire, who can say?

Honestly, though, I find it hard to care. Dawnguard is one of the most poorly written things I've ever seen; it's a mess. Serana is presented as nice and all, but seems to agree with her mom that Harkon must be stopped because his actions might cause vampires to get hunted down. Oh no! And while we never see her take a bite out of anyone, there's no reason to think she didn't spend centuries sucking the life out of dinner-slaves before the "divorce" (please correct me if I missed a line of dialogue somewhere). She seems proud of her vampirism, never really apologizing for it, and even seems derisive of "vampire hunting," despite knowing full well that "mortal hunting" is a common vampire activity. She doesn't even seem sad when we walk through the Undercroft, full of literally thousands of mortal skeletons, and she never hesitates to use necromancy. It's not even a discussion; it'd be one thing if she at least acknowledged it but, nah, she's just totally fine with raising the dead and her family kidnapping and murdering innocents--she's just sad that mommy and daddy broke up. Boo hoo; your mommy and daddy sacrificed 1000 innocents to gain power and orphaned countless children over the years, but yeah, let's talk about YOUR feelings, lady.

Oh, and since her Elder Scroll and knowledge and blood were what the prophecy required (Harkon having clearly proven incapable of finding Valerica after all this time on his own), it would have been smarter to kill her off. Isran was right!
alexander_dougherty 30 NOV 2021 a las 1:27 
Publicado originalmente por no1schmo:
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Vampires are Undead, their souls doomed to Molag Bal.... Curing her and giving her a chance to save her soul from that fate outweighs the reduction of her time on Tamriel.

Maybe. We really don't know the mechanics of who gets what soul very well.
True but unless you cure her then her soul is doomed to Molag Bal, that's part of what Vampirism means, same as Werewolf souls being doomed to Hircine.... although some want that fate.
Perplex 30 NOV 2021 a las 6:40 
Publicado originalmente por Rin:
No major drawbacks if you do choose to cure her of vampirism. She just won't be immune to frost attack or make Bloodcursed Elven arrows. Her pupils also change.

Nice necro.
Publicado originalmente por alexander_dougherty:
Publicado originalmente por Im doing my part!:
Do ya cure, do ya let her stay a vampire?

Is making a vampire mortal even curing at all, or more like giving her a disease of decay and eventual death?
Vampires are Undead, their souls doomed to Molag Bal.... Curing her and giving her a chance to save her soul from that fate outweighs the reduction of her time on Tamriel.
There is a solid way around that, Oblivion establishes that it is possible under the right conditions for a dragonborn (Martin, retroactively) to off a daedric prince, or at least give them a big enough beatdown to get them to shove off. Considering what Molag Bal did to her, that would honestly be a ridiculously satisfying resolution.

Grab that greatsword Serana we're crackin skulls
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Vampires are Undead, their souls doomed to Molag Bal.... Curing her and giving her a chance to save her soul from that fate outweighs the reduction of her time on Tamriel.
There is a solid way around that, Oblivion establishes that it is possible under the right conditions for a dragonborn (Martin, retroactively) to off a daedric prince, or at least give them a big enough beatdown to get them to shove off. Considering what Molag Bal did to her, that would honestly be a ridiculously satisfying resolution.

Grab that greatsword Serana we're crackin skulls
True, but that means going up against a Daedric Prince in their realm of Oblivion..... easier just to cure her and get her to redeam her soul enough that a Divine claims her after death.
Badass Trans Knight 1 DIC 2021 a las 13:35 
Publicado originalmente por alexander_dougherty:
Publicado originalmente por Badass Trans Knight:
There is a solid way around that, Oblivion establishes that it is possible under the right conditions for a dragonborn (Martin, retroactively) to off a daedric prince, or at least give them a big enough beatdown to get them to shove off. Considering what Molag Bal did to her, that would honestly be a ridiculously satisfying resolution.

Grab that greatsword Serana we're crackin skulls
True, but that means going up against a Daedric Prince in their realm of Oblivion..... easier just to cure her and get her to redeam her soul enough that a Divine claims her after death.
Easier? Sure. But doing that means killing another person and sending their soul to the cairn, which I'm actually really surprised Serana is willing to do after having been there. It also means Molag Bal, her abuser, is still alive and the remaining vampires are still victims of his will.

Personally, between the two options, I'm for the 'lets go beat him up blaze of glory style' route that doesn't require sending anybody to the soul cairn.
Valden21 1 DIC 2021 a las 14:03 
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True, but that means going up against a Daedric Prince in their realm of Oblivion..... easier just to cure her and get her to redeam her soul enough that a Divine claims her after death.
Easier? Sure. But doing that means killing another person and sending their soul to the cairn, which I'm actually really surprised Serana is willing to do after having been there. It also means Molag Bal, her abuser, is still alive and the remaining vampires are still victims of his will.

Personally, between the two options, I'm for the 'lets go beat him up blaze of glory style' route that doesn't require sending anybody to the soul cairn.

But you can't really do that. Anyone can SAY that they're gonna beat up a Daedric Prince, but actually doing so is something else altogether. The reason Martin was able to go toe-to-toe with Mehrunes Dagon was because Martin allowed himself to become an avatar of Akatosh, and he turned to stone at the end of that fight. Champion of Cyrodill was able to beat Jyggalag due to being imbued with Sheogorath's power. My point is this: mortals, even the Dragonborn, can't defeat Daedric Princes without divine help, and on their home realm of Oblivion, Daedric Princes have full control of that realm's reality. Falion's route is easier, and safer.
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