CTD at Sleeping Giant Inn

[lillindine]

I am having an issue with being unable to enter the Sleeping Giant Inn. For a while I was CTD when headed to Riverwood, and now I can get to Riverwood but not go into the inn. I have searched the web and found a lot of people with the infinite load screen issue, but it just completely tanks to the desktop instead. I've removed any mods related to inn edits, have ran LOOT a billion times with no errors. Any ideas?

[cfs111]

Posting your load order will help, in LOOT upper right click on the three dots then choose copy load order and paste it here.

[lillindine]

Thanks, here it is.

0 0 Skyrim.esm
1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Dawnguard.esm
3 3 HearthFires.esm
4 4 Dragonborn.esm
5 5 Falskaar.esm
6 6 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
7 7 ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
8 8 EFFCore.esm
9 9 lightplacement.esp
10 a tpos_ultimate_esm.esp
11 b HuntingFixedDLC123.esp
12 c dense vegetation.esp
13 d 1k_dds_nif_vurts-flora-overhaul.esp
14 e better embers.esp
15 f big_helmetless_perks_sp0.esp
16 10 cco - diverse races and genders.esp
17 11 cco - dynamic skill progression.esp
18 12 character creation overhaul.esp
19 13 dd - realistic ragdoll force - realistic.esp
20 14 hdplants+herbs.esp
21 15 [mpx] npc gender race heights +dg-db.esp
22 16 cleaner vampires.esp
23 17 xced.esp
24 18 saturationboost.esp
25 19 northern bathhouses.esp
26 1a PWwaterfall.esp
27 1b Helsmyrr.esp
28 1c Bandit Docks.esp
29 1d SHFBreezehomeBasement.esp
30 1e birdshf.esp
31 1f frostflakeretreat.esp
32 20 betterinns.esp
33 21 ShezrieOldHroldanVer2.esp
34 22 FrostbrookFarm.esp
35 23 winterhold_improvements.esp
36 24 pinewood village.esp
37 25 ebonvale.esp
38 26 sky haven temple m&m.esp
39 27 inreth & arwen.esp
40 28 marriageablemalenpcs.esp
41 29 betterfactionscomplete.esp
42 2a climatesoftamriel.esp
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44 2c hqsnow.esp
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47 2f lusciousfaces.esp
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49 31 realistic piercing arrows.esp
50 32 reduced distance npc greetings.esp
51 33 UsefulDogs.esp
52 34 scaled bracers fix.esp
53 35 HUE - Replacer.esp
54 36 Air Ship.esp
55 37 moonandstar_mas.esp
56 38 guard dialogue overhaul.esp
57 39 Iknowtheway.esp
58 3a better stealth ai for followers.esp
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66 42 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
67 43 morninghood manor.esp
68 44 Immersive Weapons.esp
69 45 the hunting game - thegreylight.esp
70 46 Pelts In High Demand.esp
71 47 azarhair.esp
72 48 custom family home.esp
73 49 marriageablehearthfirenpcs.esp
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78 4e Purewaters.esp
79 4f drsknapsacks.esp
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81 51 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
82 52 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp
83 53 Footprints.esp
84 54 realrainCoT.esp
85 55 UIExtensions.esp
86 56 ai overhaul.esp
87 57 bettermorthal.esp
88 58 Point The Way.esp
89 59 kynesguard.esp
90 5a zkg.esp
91 5b Atvir.esp
92 5c L0S and TaVE patch.esp
93 5d dovastrunmahholl.esp
94 5e ImprovedFollowers.esp
95 5f breezehomelightfix.esp
96 60 tes heralchen creek.esp
97 61 dovahkiin_mountain_retreat.esp
98 62 Garalla Hall.esp
99 63 WarMaidensRemodel.esp
100 64 markarth_plus.esp
101 65 Khajiit Camp.esp
102 66 uniquebordergates-all.esp
103 67 StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp
104 68 immersive patrols ii.esp
105 69 marriageabledawnguardnpcs.esp
106 6a EFFDialogue.esp
107 6b Dawnguard Vampire FIx.esp
108 6c RenWolf.esp
109 6d marriageabledragonbornnpcs.esp
110 6e aaaChildren of Skryim.esp
111 6f Lokraan's_Nest.esp
112 70 CountryCastle.esp
113 71 betterdawnstar.esp
114 72 bettermarkarthexterieur.esp
115 73 Provincial Courier Service.esp
116 74 enhancedlightingforrealisticlighting.esp
117 75 Kynesgrove.esp
118 76 tavevillages.esp
119 77 whiteruninenhanced.esp
120 78 Darrow.esp
121 79 quest_andtherealmsofdaedra.esp
122 7a riverwoodenhancedplugin.esp
123 7b whiterunexenhanced.esp
124 7c bettercitiesdocksolitude.esp
125 7d taveriften.esp
126 7e TownsandVillagesEnhancedProAlpha.esp
127 7f betterwinterhold.esp
128 80 Hunting Extreme Shack.esp
129 81 Thorald GreyMane.esp
130 82 into the deep.esp
131 83 follower pack khajiit.esp
132 84 tavewindhelm.esp
133 85 tavesolitude.esp
134 86 marchanditinerant.esp
135 87 Jasons More Characters Mod.esp
136 88 themarriagebook.esp
137 89 breezehomedogfriend.esp
138 8a more followers.esp
139 8b ktxcompleteskyforge.esp
140 8c more citizens riften.esp
141 8d followers keep up.esp
142 8e tavefalkreath.esp
143 8f cirroc.esp
144 90 invinciblehousecarls.esp
145 91 private_nokillblur_test.esp
146 92 nordsisters.esp
147 93 shylahwhite.esp
148 94 aetia.esp
149 95 talon.esp
150 96 Vath.esp
151 97 tahlevar.esp
152 98 follower ra'girr.esp
153 99 aeroth.esp
154 9a aom_barbarianfollower.esp
155 9b joxxor.esp
156 9c lorod.esp
157 9d nikolai.esp
158 9e phane.esp
159 9f trenusvalerius.esp
160 a0 koriskograv.esp
161 a1 request ripline's followers.esp
162 a2 1aAndrewSkyrimFollowers.esp
163 a3 bronrod.esp
164 a4 dartania.esp
165 a5 draelorn.esp
166 a6 eradrann.esp
167 a7 marcus.esp

[KamikaziFly]

Going to the Sleeping Giant Inn can trigger several events such as SPOILERS: a random dragon fight in Riverwood, Blades Quest, Delphine to start a quest with you.

My bet is that either Delphine is dead or that a mod involving dragons has broken a script at Riverwood.

[cfs111]

You have a lot of different mods that changes the cities/villages are you sure they are all compatible?

[Bomb Bloke]

Originally posted by lillindine:

I've removed any mods related to inn edits,

About that - a lot of mods that wouldn't "obviously" have anything to do with inns will add vendor NPCs to this particular one anyway. It can get quite crowded in there.

Have you cleaned your master files?

[lillindine]

Originally posted by cfs111:

You have a lot of different mods that changes the cities/villages are you sure they are all compatible?

They are all from the same collection, and I went through each to see that they are compatible as far as the maker is concerned.

[lillindine]

Originally posted by Bomb Bloke:

Originally posted by lillindine:

I've removed any mods related to inn edits,

About that - a lot of mods that wouldn't "obviously" have anything to do with inns will add vendor NPCs to this particular one anyway. It can get quite crowded in there.

Have you cleaned your master files?

I removed a handful of NPCs that were located there but it still crashes.

I have not cleaned them.

[Bomb Bloke]

Originally posted by lillindine:

I have not cleaned them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fw3g_N1jcZQ

[Sly Rambo]

I would like to Bump and jump in on this.

I also cannot get into the Sleeping Giants Inn. I have Cleaned all of my mods and Master files.

Any advice would be appreciated, I've spent hours trying to sort this out to no avail.

My Mod list is as follows:

0 0 Skyrim.esm
1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Dawnguard.esm
3 3 HearthFires.esm
4 4 Dragonborn.esm
5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
6 6 Falskaar.esm
7 7 ApachiiHairFemales.esm
8 8 ApachiiHair.esm
9 9 hdtHighHeel.esm
10 a AOM.esm
11 b SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esm
12 c BBLuxurySuite.esm
13 d Inn Girls Resources.esm
14 e ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
15 f CompanionArissa.esm
16 10 moonpath.esm
17 11 TERAArmors.esm
18 12 OSA.esm
19 13 SomeguySeries.esm
20 14 SkyUI.esp
21 15 RaceMenu.esp
22 16 RaceMenuPlugin.esp
23 17 CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp
24 18 Beards.esp
25 19 FNIS.esp
26 1a AchieveThat.esp
27 1b BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp
28 1c When Vampires Attack.esp
29 1d DeadlySpellImpacts.esp
30 1e Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
31 1f AncientTonguesGreatSword.esp
32 20 AncientTonguesSword.esp
33 21 WetandCold.esp
34 22 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
35 23 Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp
36 24 DK_Armor_By_Hothtrooper44.esp
37 25 Lost Art of the Blacksmith.esp
38 26 SabreFurBag.esp
39 27 ScarletDawnArmor.esp
40 28 ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-1.esp
41 29 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
42 2a ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp
43 2b RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Falskaar.esp
44 2c SkyRe_Main.esp
45 2d 3DNPC.esp
46 2e Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp
47 2f Helgen Reborn.esp
48 30 RealisticWaterTwo.esp
49 31 Breezehome_Fully_Upgradable.esp
50 32 Immersive Wenches.esp
51 33 BetterDarkBrotherhood.esp
52 34 SoS - The Wilds.esp
53 35 OBIS.esp
54 36 SoS - Civilization.esp
55 37 Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp
56 38 SoS - The Dungeons.esp
57 39 MoonAndStar_MAS.esp
58 3a Undeath.esp
59 3b Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
60 3c Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
61 3d Immersive Weapons.esp
62 3e marriagemod - alpha v3.esp
63 3f EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp
64 40 aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp
65 41 Unique Uniques.esp
66 42 AOM.esp
67 43 zMirai.esp
68 44 EMViljaInSolstheimAddOn.esp
69 45 Ambriel.esp
70 46 Better Vampire NPCs.esp
71 47 RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp
72 48 TheFrontier.esp
73 49 Inigo.esp
74 4a Run For Your Lives.esp
75 4b Cloaks.esp
76 4c SMIM-Merged-All.esp
77 4d UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp
78 4e DragonmournInn.esp
79 4f TheDomain.esp
80 50 moonpath_questdata.esp
81 51 RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp
82 52 AdalMatar.esp
83 53 SFO - Dragonborn.esp
84 54 SofiaFollower.esp
85 55 Immersive Patrols II.esp
86 56 Bijin NPCs.esp
87 57 Bijin Wives.esp
88 58 dD-DG-DB-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.esp
89 59 BloodOfTheNord.esp
90 5a flaho_shi_eagles_nest_ENG.esp
91 5b CerwidenCompanion.esp
92 5c Marriable Serana.esp
93 5d SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp
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95 5f HothFollower.esp
96 60 SkyRe_StandingStones.esp
97 61 Recorder Follower Base.esp
98 62 UFO - Heartfire AddOn.esp
99 63 UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp
100 64 Marriable Serana HF.esp
101 65 NS_HuntingGroundsOutfit.esp
102 66 SkyRe_Races.esp
103 67 ForgottenCity.esp
104 68 SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp
105 69 AesirArmor.esp
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107 6b Sweet&Sexy Lingerie.esp
108 6c Presets 2-3.esp
109 6d TemptressVixen.esp
110 6e The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
111 6f Better Vampire Weapons.esp
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113 71 Doomhammer - Johnskyrim.esp
114 72 MoonAndStar_Undeath_compat.esp
115 73 SkyRe_Combat.esp
116 74 vMYC_MeetYourCharacters.esp
117 75 IceBladeOfTheMonarch.esp
118 76 Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp
119 77 BBLuxurySuiteENM.esp
120 78 TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
121 79 Insanity's Sorrow.esp
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123 7b DanarielStormbow.esp
124 7c Minerva.esp
125 7d HothFollower UFO Patch.esp
126 7e OBISDB.esp
127 7f R18pn - lingerie Set.esp
128 80 TERAArmors_CBBE.esp
129 81 RealisticWaterTwo - Falskaar.esp
130 82 TW3_femaleArmors_zzjay.esp
131 83 NN_ArwenWBDresses.esp
132 84 BetterHunting2.esp
133 85 The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp
134 86 imp_helm_legend.esp
135 87 AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp
136 88 Armored Circlets.esp
137 89 Differently Ebony.esp
138 8a Viconia.esp
139 8b DovahBlingJewelryReplacer.esp
140 8c Black Viper's Will.esp
141 8d Dr_Bandolier.esp
142 8e nordicrangerarmor.esp
143 8f Cassandra Frost Witch.esp
144 90 MageBackpack_byTumbajamba.esp
145 91 Orcrist.esp
146 92 CalienteVanillaArmorTweaks.esp
147 93 Schwertleite Set.esp
148 94 Brothers.esp
149 95 Lieyes_v1.0.esp
150 96 KS Hairdo's.esp
151 97 Yennefer.esp
152 98 kimono's witcher silver swords.esp
153 99 DHuntress.esp
154 9a FlameAtronachArmor.esp
155 9b FullBootForKKSA.esp
156 9c KKFur.esp
157 9d KKSDGWeightSliderFix.esp
158 9e KKSDrBWeightFix.esp
159 9f Daedric Extra Armor.esp
160 a0 Dovahkiin Mercenary Armor and Weapons CBBE.esp
161 a1 SoS - Civilization-PatchCoT.esp
162 a2 SoS - The Wilds-PatchCoT.esp
163 a3 Sovngarde Steel Armor and Weapons.esp
164 a4 DeadlyDragons.esp
165 a5 GDZZJJDH.esp
166 a6 TrissMerigoldW3.esp
167 a7 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
168 a8 ReProccer.esp

[Sly Rambo]

Bump

[cfs111]

Check your mod list against this...
Nazenn's Outdated and Dangerous Mods
http://steamcommunity.com/app/72850/discussions/0/523890681422555089

[Sly Rambo]

Ive cleaned UFO, tried uninstalling it and entering. CTD.

Nothing else on that list jumps out at me.

[cfs111]

Does it crash on a new game? Some mods should not be cleaned, the dirty edits are needed for the mod to work correctly. LOOT only sees that a mod has them, it has no idea whether they are needed or not. You may need to reinstall any mods you cleaned.

[Sly Rambo]

I tried loading a fresh game and it worked. But then it CTD when I left.

I tried a full uninstall then reinstall and the same result.

Is the only option left to delete all mods, uninstall, fresh install and then redownload the mods????

[Sly Rambo]

Thanks for your replies btw