CTD When Opening Map ( Solved )

[SilentAegis]

Like the title says. This problem just appeared out of nowhere. What I've tried:


Running LOOT and FNIS
Making the right pane of MO match the left pane of MO. ( I'm not done doing that yet, but so far, still crashes. I also don't feel like this is exactly the problem, but I read it's a good idea. )
Disabling all mods ( Makes me crash when going outside )
Deleting Skyrim.ini ( Causes a crash when loading the save )
Turning down the ScrapHeapSize from 712 to 128
Reinstalling SKSE
Verifying Cache
I looked for the bloodsplatter edit in my Skyrim.ini file, but it isn't there. So that can't be it.


Been trying to solve this problem for 3 days now. When I open the map indoors, no problem. When I go outside, I load in successfully. Open the map outside, crash.


At a total loss right now. What can I do?

[SilentAegis]

Publicado originalmente por Ilja:

The problem here is that your files are not managed correctly. SKSE memory tweak should replace SMME, unless you have third party tweak that changes it (pointing toward conversation around Crash Fixes, which is occasionally very misleading, because they are actually talking about entirely different things.)

Your Real Shelter files are not being loaded in correct positions in your load order. LOOT does not yet place them correctly. Wrong positions can lead to freezes and crashes.

Your Resource Priority view is bit painful to look at. I do not say that in a bad way, your reply made it obvious that you have not yet fully figured out what it does. I can see that you have tried to sort it out.

MO left panel resource priorities determine with resources - scripts, textures, meshes etc. - win conflicts against other. Those that are loaded further down in you MO left panel view (up in this reversed view) will win conflicts.

This means that examplescript.pex (a) from mod loaded up will loose a conflict against examplescript.pex (b) further down in you MO left panel. Several mods are using modified scripts and scripts with same name may not have fully same content, or merged scripts may be older versions than more modern mods are using. This is why it is important that conflicts are sorted out.

LOOT sorts these files for MO load order view, but left panel view should be sorted manually. It is important to note that MO left panles should be close to right panel, but you will have to decide which files will win conflicts in certain cases. This mostly means textures, where swapping mods around will allow other textures win the conflict.

All your Overwrite output content is unmanaged. I do not see folders for Bashed Patch, Dual Sheath Redux or SKSE (including files for SexLab Framework and HDT.)

Read through this post carefully. Also pay attention to Gopher's video at the end of it. Post should explain how to position Real Shelter files and how to manage your Output data. Gopher's video will visually explain how resource priorities work. (Note that he calls them Mod Priorities, but we have adopted another name in this forum.)

Load order and resource priority basics
http://steamcommunity.com/app/72850/discussions/0/523890681419356033/

Few more pointers:

• XP32 Maximum Skeleton Extended - XMSE should win all conflicts against all other mods. It should be last full mod to load in your MO left panel. Only Output data folders should be loaded after it.
  
  
• You have multiply versions of Zaz Animation Pack. You should only use ZazAnimationPack v61 and ZazAnimationPack v611 Patch. They should be high in your left panel, right after SLA. Right now you have obsolete files ZazAnimationPack Patch V0604 and ZazAnimationPack Main V0600 winning conflicts against ZazAnimationPack v611 Patch, which does not have v61 main.
  
  
• You should not have any files marked as Unmanaged, except official game and DLC files. Resource priorities for unmanaged files do not work properly. Install them through MO. Are some of those files from Workshop? If so, then they need to be managed through MO as well.

You have a small chore in ahead of you. I have not yet finished my breakfast, so I may have missed several conflicts there (and likely did). Sort it out as presented and we will see how your game is behaving and if we spot more problems from it.

It is not actually that tedious process. Unless you burn your whole installation to the ground, then you only need to do it once. When you know where mods should go, you also know how to add and manage new mods in the future. :)

Edit: Feel free to ask more help, if you need it. I will be most of the day near my computer, writing my book and checking this forum every now and then.

Extremely helpful post, thank you. I have to go to bed at the moment, but once I get the chance, I'll begin troubleshooting like crazy, re-reading your post, and watching good ol' Gopher.


I'll comment again once progress has been made. Thanks again.

[SilentAegis]

Progress so far:


+XP32 Maximum Skeleton Extended
+ZaZAnimationPack v0611 Patch
+ZazAnimationPack v61
+Underground Bathhouse and Paradise Valley
+Overwrite Mod
+SL
+More Muscular Men texture normals
+Dwemertech - Magic of the Dwarves
+Royal Bloodline - Vampire Lord perk tree - abilities - and more
+Player Headtracking
+Oriental Swordsmanship animation of East Asia
+Duel - Combat Realism
+Spell Charging
+Breast Size
+SLAL
+Yennefer of Vengerberg - The Witcher 3 Voiced Standalone Follower
+Enhanced Blood Textures
+Brawl Bugs Patch - Plugins - Modder Resource
+Bijin NPCs
+Bijin Wives
+Vivace Follower
+FNIS Creature Pack
+Monster Mod
+Witcher 3 Yennefer and Triss armors
+Minerva - Custom High Elf Voiced Follower
+Moniko the Tattooed Beauty
+Skyrim Tanker Neisa
+Safety Load
+Blacktalon
+Animated Dragon Wings
+SevenBaseArmors
+Ursine7B
+SeveNBase a custom FemaleBodyReplacer
+Lanya Follower
+Avelyn or Elisif
+Make Nearly Anyone Your Follower-Marriagable
+Archery Gameplay Overhaul
+PapyrusUtil - Scripting Utility Functions
+zzjay's wardrobe
+The Hairstyler
+Warglaive of Azzinoth patch for Dual Sheath Redux
+TDF
+SexLabMatchMaker
+New Animation for Magic Casting - New Animation for magic cast v0-8
+Young Male Face Texture
+Alt Navetsea UNP Seamless
+Black Subsurface Maps for male FACE and BODY
+Fine Face Textures for Men by Urshi
+Fuz Ro Doh
+SexLab Werewolves
+Vie
+Hikari UNP CBBE
+sunsakukaFollowers V1
+My Home Is Your Home - a mod for followers
+Killer Keos Skimpy Armor Replacer - UNPB Version
+Shiamar - Orc Follower
+Attack on Sight - Off
+Take Notes - Journal of the Dragonborn
+Elemental Dragons
+Reapers The Dark Tower
+Pretty Sit Idle v1.4
+Pretty Combat Animations
+Enhanced Distant Terrain
+Skyrim HD - 2K Textures
+Succubus Race
+Animated Enchantments Overhaul
+Lustrianna Compatibility Patches
+Lady Lucretia - A Succubus Follower
+Eo Geom Summon Swords Ver 1.2 - Lightning Order
+LustDesign - Sovngarde Steel Armor v2 - CBBE_UNP_CHSBHC_ADEC
+Moonlight Tales - Werewolf Essentials
+Deacons Dark Brotherhood Pack
+Insanitys Goldbrand
+Warglaive of Azzinoth -The Twin Blades of Azzinoth-
+TERA Weapons Collection for Skyrim
+Smile in HD
+Female Facial Animation
+Alyn Shir Armor - CBBEv3 - UNP - UNP-BBP
+Demon Hunter Armor V2 - CBBEv3 - UNP
+Scarlet Dawn Armor - CBBEv3 - UNP - 7B Cleavage BBP - CBPE - UNPB BBP
+Dragonbone Barbarian Armor
+Animated Dwemer Lift Load Doors for Dragonborn DLC
+Animated Dwemer Lift Load Doors
+aMidianBorn Book of Silence - Creatures
+aMidianBorn Book of Silence - Weapons
+aMidianBorn Book of Silence - Unique Items
+aMidianBorn Book of Silence - Dragonborn DLC
+aMidianBorn Book of Silence - Armors
+SexLab LoversComfort v20131230
+momiji
+wgoulart_Ifrit Sexy Colection Armor and Wepons Standalone
+Viconia DeVir for Skyrim
+Ultimate HD Fire Effects
+Ultimate Dragons
+Transform
+Supreme Storms
+Summon Succubus Twins
+Succubus By Hentai -CBBE3 Gift By Nausicaa
+sp
+Sneak Tools
+Skyrim Configuration Menu
+Skyrim - Glowing Eyes v4
+Skyrim - Enhanced Camera Beta
+Sexy Vanilla Female Armor for UNP and SevenBase with BBP
+Rizings Bow Collection
+Real-time Dragon Fast Travel - Dragonborn
+Power of The Stars
+Nicoroshi Creations
+New Animation for Get Up
+Lustmord Vampire Armor
+Lightning during Thunder Storms
+Kick Bash
+Heart of the Beast - Werewolf Sound and Texture Overhaul
+HDT Physics Extensions
+Fudou Myouou Katana and Tachi
+Forgotten Magic Redone
+Flying Mod Beta
+Face Light
+Dovahkiin Relaxes Too
+Better Shape Creature
+Akavari Katana Reborn
*Unmanaged: azureaurasword
*Unmanaged: FlyableDragons
*Unmanaged: grimreapersatanskiss
*Unmanaged: montyxdg4hota
+Arise - Chapter 1 - The Black Sacrament
*Unmanaged: private_nokillblur_test
*Unmanaged: pullmastry
*Unmanaged: ssapbwk
*Unmanaged: thanatos dragonx
*Unmanaged: dragon soul relinquishment
+Spectraverse - Magic of the Magna-Ge
+Inferno- The Blood Marked
+Female Enemy Monster Aesthetics Leveled Encounters
+Companion Selene Kate - Kiss Me
+SkyUI
+VioLens - A Killmove Mod
+Inferno- Advents of Flame
+Cirilla (Ciri) Fiona Elen Riannon - Witcher 3 Voiced Follower
+Phenderix Magic Evolved - 322 Spells
+Summon Sindragosa and Dragon Aspects shouts
+The Mad Masker
*Unmanaged: LPBards
*Unmanaged: quest_andtherealmsofdaedra
+Deadly_Dragons
*Unmanaged: palantirbalanced
+Enhanced Character Edit
*Unmanaged: vamplord
*Unmanaged: apex werewolf
+Female Werewolf
+Bijin Warmaidens
*Unmanaged: abundant enchantments
*Unmanaged: joomasslightning
*Unmanaged: dutchess
+OverflowingMagic Replacer-only use one file
*Unmanaged: midas magic expanded
+Sofia - The Funny Fully Voiced Follower
+Skyrim Spells And Powers By WarriorKeKe
+VIGILANT
+AmorousAdventures
+Tame the Beasts of Skyrim II
+Inferno- Envoys of End
+Sephina The Huntress Standalone Follower v.2
+Immersive Hentai Creatures 1
+Colorful Magic
*Unmanaged: conjurationhandfxvanilla
*Unmanaged: jutsu
+Static Mesh Improvement Mod
+ChaoticDragons
+Immersive Weapons
+W.A.T.E.R - Water And Terrain Enhancement Redux
+WeaponPack 1
+Skyrim Immersive Creatures
+Skyrim School of Witchcraft and Wizardry
+Thunderchild
+Real Shelter - Full Release
+Wintermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim
+Ethereal Elven Overhaul
+Follower Commentary Overhaul - FCO
*Unmanaged: vampgirl
*Unmanaged: daedriccrossbow
*Unmanaged: conigma-blooddread
+Revenge Of the Enemies 2016
+Skyrim Naruto Anime Overhaul
+3DNPC
+More Nasty Critters
+Fores New Idles in Skyrim - FNIS
*Unmanaged: walk
*Unmanaged: ts_rogueoutfits
*Unmanaged: singularitycrush
*Unmanaged: serana1
*Unmanaged: schwertleite set
*Unmanaged: SwordplayFinishers
*Unmanaged: cleaner_castlevolkihar3
+Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul
+Shadows
*Unmanaged: HighResTexturePack01
*Unmanaged: HighResTexturePack02
*Unmanaged: HighResTexturePack03
+Magic Duel - Reborn
+SexLabAroused V27a
+SexLabFramework v162 FULL
+SOS
+Extensible Follower Framework
+TERA Armors Collection for Skyrim - Male and UNP female
+Molag Bal's Inferno
+Creature
+HDT HighHeels System
+Levelers Tower v35a
+The Oblivion Realms Serie - Morthal Pain
+Nephilim v3.00-63774-3-00
+Sanctum of the Fallen
+Paradise Halls - Skyrim Slavery WIP
+Skyrim Monster Mod compatibility With Tame the Beasts of Skyrim II
+Dragon Break Episodes 1 and 2 - Bad Wolf and The infinity engine
+EVIL LAIR OF HYDRA - PLAYER HOME WITH SEXY GIRLS
+ApachiiSkyHair
+Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch
*Unmanaged: Dragonborn
*Unmanaged: HearthFires
*Unmanaged: Dawnguard


Once I finish sorting, I'll reinstall the Steam Workshop mods tomorrow.

[Ilja]

There are still unmanaged files in your MO. If you have installed mods to your Data folder, then remove them and install them through MO. Otherwise resource priorities are not managed correctly.

There are also few other mistakes there. For example ZAP is at the wrong end of the list.

Let me link you my own Default profile mod list here as example. I do not use ZAP in this game, but I added it there for you to review.

# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.
+Output SKSE
+Output FNIS
+Output DSR
+Output Bashed Patch
+Output BodySlide
+Real Shelter - Full Release
+PNENB
+Default DynDOLOD Output
+Default TexGen Output
+XP32 Maximum Skeleton Extended
+Alternate Start - Live Another Life
+XP32 New Animation Package - Nexus Exclusive
+Winter Is Coming - Cloaks - Resource
+Superior Lore-Friendly Hair - HD textures
+Riften BeeBarb Show sunlight fix
+PapyrusUtil - Modders Scripting Utility Functions
+No Poison Dialogues
+Staff of Magnus Hotfix
+Skyrim - Enhanced Camera
+Skyrim -Community- Uncapper
+SIM - Skyrim Interface Makeover (Fhaarkas Font Mod)
+SFO Billboards for v2.5b (updated)
+Vanilla Skyrim LOD Billboards
+Skyforge Hotfix
+Realistic Smoke and Embers
+Realistic Instruments - Flute Lute and Drum HQ
+Proper Torch Wield - Hold your torch away from your face
+Pretty Sit Idle v1.41c
+Dragonbone Mastery - Weapons Retexture
+LeanWolf's Better-Shaped Weapons - All in One Installer
+LeanWolfs Better-Shaped Talos with Greatsword - NSUtR Patch
+LeanWolf's Better-Shaped and Armed Talos
+JContainers
+Improved closefaced helmets - Resource
+HDT Physics Extensions
+FemFeet Redesigned
+Enchantment Reload Fix
+DynDOLOD Patches
+DynDOLOD Resources
+Cloaks of Skyrim 1-2 Dawnguard - Resource
+Cloaks of Skyrim - Resource
+Categorized Favorites Menu
+Bonemold Hotfix
+BVFE - Better Vampire Fangs and Eyes
+Better MessageBox Controls
+Better Dialogue Controls
+Bandolier - Bags and Pouches - Resource
+Animated Clutter
+aMidianBorn - Content Addon
+aMidianBorn Book of Silence - Weapons
+aMidianBorn Book of Silence - Unique Items
+aMidianBorn Book of Silence - Dragonborn DLC
+aMidianBorn Book of Silence - Creatures
+aMidianBorn Book of Silence - Armors
+The Ruffled Feather
+NSM - SMIM Patch-45807-3-1-5
+Static Mesh Improvement Mod
+RUSTIC WORD WALLS
+Ruins Clutter Improved
+NobleSkyrimMod HD-2K Lite
+Skyrim HD - 2K Textures
+Fix Lip Sync
+ETHEREAL CLOUDS
+The Wenches Wardrobe
+Multiple Floors Sandboxing
+Followers as Companions - Multiply version
+Your Market Stall
+Jump Sound Fix
+NSAP3.1
+Better Stealth AI for Followers - No Torch while Sneaking
+Wiseman303's Trap Fixes
+Traps Make Noise - More Dangerous Traps
+Vampire Lord drain with Serana fixed
+Thundering shouts - Resource
+Playable Instruments - Play and Bash
+Reduced Gold Rewards for Quests
+SexLab Eager NPCs_20160606
+Sleeping Innkeepers
+Eli's Coffee Mod 1.1 - Realistic Needs and Diseases version-66417-1-1RND
+Art of the Catch
+No Naked Comments
+Moonlight Tales - Werewolf and Werebear Essentials
+Dual Sheath Redux
+Deadly Wenches
+Better Torches
+Timing is Everything - Quest Delay and Timing Control
+Trade And Barter - Hearthfire
+Lanterns Candles Dragonborn Edition
+Wearable Lanterns
+Lanterns and Candles
+Hunterborn Patches
+RND USKP-Patch - USLEEP fixed
+Predator Vision - Vampire Werewolf and Khajiit
+Better Vampires 7.2
+Thieves Guild Followers
+SCRR - Coin Weight
+Unique Uniques WAFR 5.2 Compatible Replacement ESP
+Unique Uniques - Resource
+Seductress Serana
+Helmless Warrior Reworked
+Lightweight Headtracking and Emotions
+Acquisitive Soul Gems Multithreaded
+Footprints
+Auto Unequip Ammo
+Simple Taxes
+Pumping Iron - Dynamic Muscle Growth
+No Psychic Lock Knowledge
+No empty tag on empty containers
+A Matter of Time - A HUD clock widget
+NPC Smarter Water AI - Full Compatibility
+Book Covers Skyrim - Compatibility Patch Collection
+Organized Books
+Rude Imperial Soldiers Escort Prisoner fix
+Wet and Cold
+Hold Border Banners
+Drinking Fountains of Skyrim
+SkyUI 5.1 Add-On for Frostfall 3.0
+Frostfall - Hypothermia Camping Survival
+Realistic Needs and Diseases
+Trade Routes
+Real Shelter v1.4.0.7 USLEEP Patch
+Skyrim Flora Overhaul
+Craftable Horse Barding
+Immersive Horses
+Immersive Patrols
+Hunterborn
+Bring Out Your Dead
+Unofficial ELFX SMIM ENB fps performance patch
+Run For Your Lives
+Thieves Guild Requirements
+Holidays
+Blood and Silver - Cidhna Mine Expanded
+Remove Interior Fog V2
+Civil War Overhaul
+Skyrim Coin Replacer Redux
+KS Hairdos - Renewal
+Book Covers Skyrim 3 5 LEGENDARY - Desaturated
+Disparity -- Player Character Class - Race and Gender Diversity
+Complete Crafting Overhaul Remade
+Potema CTD Fix
+Revenge of the Enemies Patches
+Remodeled Armor for CBBE Bodyslide TBBP HDT
+OBIS - Organized Bandits In Skyrim
+Immersive College of Winterhold
+No Spinning Death Animation
+Immersive HUD - iHUD
+Dragon Combat Overhaul
+VioLens - A Killmove Mod
+Crime Bounty Decay
+Revenge Of the Enemies 2016
+When Vampires Attack
+Jaxonz Positioner
+Request Bard To Take A Break
+Sleep Tight
+RealisticRoomRental-Basic
+BodySlide and Outfit Studio
+DYNAVISION - Dynamic Depth of Field
+Wonders of Weather
+NavatseaFixed
+Moon Glow
+Enhanced Blood Textures
+Immersive Sounds - Compendium
+SkyUI
+Clothing and Clutter Fixes
+Weapons and Armor Fixes Remade
+Guard Dialogue Overhaul
+No Snow Under The Roof
+MindfluxParticles
+Enhanced Lights and FX
+Beards
+Realistic Ragdolls and Force
+Fores New Idles in Skyrim - FNIS
+RaceMenu
+Cutting Room Floor
+Calientes Beautiful Bodies Edition -CBBE-
+ZaZAnimationPack v0611 Patch
+ZazAnimationPack v61
+SexLabAroused V27a
+SexLabFramework v162 FULL
+MFVM - More Follower Voices Mod Plus Khajiit Marriage
+ApachiiSkyHairFemale
+ApachiiSkyHair
+Wiseman303's Flora Fixes
+Extensible Follower Framework
+Climates Of Tamriel-V
+Immersive Wenches
+Campfire - Complete Camping System
+SkyTEST - Realistic Animals and Predators
+Lanterns of Skyrim - All In One
+SOS
+Skyrim Project Optimization
+Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch
+Optimized Dragonborn Textures - HD
*Unmanaged: Dragonborn
+Optimized HearthFires Textures - HD
*Unmanaged: HearthFires
+Optimized Dawnguard Textures - HD
*Unmanaged: Dawnguard
+Optimized Vanilla Textures - HD

Edit: "Khajiit Marriage" looks kind a fun there, though I never play or marry a Kahjiit. I had completely forgotten which mod required it and wondered for a while why the heck I have that file. XD

[SilentAegis]

Yeah, I'll reinstall the unmanaged mods through MO. I want to ask, though, you have Output SKSE, FNIS, etc. Is that just how you setup your game or am I missing something?


Zap? You mean Zaz? If so, thanks, I moved it. :)

[Ilja]

Publicado originalmente por SilentAegis:

Yeah, I'll reinstall the unmanaged mods through MO. I want to ask, though, you have Output SKSE, FNIS, etc. Is that just how you setup your game or am I missing something?


Zap? You mean Zaz? If so, thanks, I moved it. :)

Those are output folders from tool data that is stored to Overwrite from them. I would recommend keeping Overwrite always clear, but tools like Wrye Bash, SkyProc tools and FNIS are providing data that needs to be stored for the game.

Output SKSE folder includes everything that game points to SKSE folder, including HDT, SL, Frostfall, Campfire (etc.) data.

I wrote about this in Load order and resource priority basics that I linked to reply #15.

I have separate folders for separate profiles, so I do not need run tools each time I switch between them. This is from my "Default" folder, which is why some mods - like profile spesific DynDOLOD folders - have "Default" in front of them.

• Zaz is a name of a modder.
  
• ZAP (Zaz Animation Pack) is the name of animation pack.

Yes, that is what I meant. :)

[Black Album]

+SexLabAroused V27a
+SexLabFramework v162 FULL

Well ... Ilja .... you naughty boy ... who would've guessed

[SilentAegis]

Publicado originalmente por Ilja:

Publicado originalmente por SilentAegis:

Yeah, I'll reinstall the unmanaged mods through MO. I want to ask, though, you have Output SKSE, FNIS, etc. Is that just how you setup your game or am I missing something?


Zap? You mean Zaz? If so, thanks, I moved it. :)

Those are output folders from tool data that is stored to Overwrite from them. I would recommend keeping Overwrite always clear, but tools like Wrye Bash, SkyProc tools and FNIS are providing data that needs to be stored for the game.

Output SKSE folder includes everything that game points to SKSE folder, including HDT, SL, Frostfall, Campfire (etc.) data.

I wrote about this in Load order and resource priority basics that I linked to reply #15.

I have separate folders for separate profiles, so I do not need run tools each time I switch between them. This is from my "Default" folder, which is why some mods - like profile spesific DynDOLOD folders - have "Default" in front of them.

• Zaz is a name of a modder.
  
• ZAP (Zaz Animation Pack) is the name of animation pack.

Yes, that is what I meant. :)

Ok, thanks. XD

[Ilja]

Publicado originalmente por Black Album:

+SexLabAroused V27a
+SexLabFramework v162 FULL

Well ... Ilja .... you naughty boy ... who would've guessed

Everyone loves a scoundrel with heart.
And I like to play such characters.

I relief Ulfric from his head, but Hermir is still smiling warmly, when I pass by. ;)

[Black Album]

I'll say nothing in the coffee room ... your secret is safe

[SilentAegis]

Wow, mod priority really does affect your game. I decided to load up the game to check if everything was still alright. A few minutes into the game, my character, who has a 1500 armor rating chest piece and over 10,000 health gets one shotted by a "Draman Brute". I'm not really complaining about that, just a bit confused.


Secondly, I opened up ECE and noticed I suddenly had a LOT more sliders. Is this what you mean by setting what mods take priority over others?


Thirdly, I noticed my character was suddenly HUGE. He was probably over 7 feet tall. Had to fix that. O.o


And finally, ( this is the problem ) I decided to check if his favorite brown wand ( his penis ) was working alright. It's sort of...floating there. He stands and when he stands, he sways a little bit. And the schlong doesn't move with him. It also got extremely tiny and when looking into the menu, it says I don't have a compatible skeleton. Even though I have XP32.


I'm going to check the SOS mod page. Maybe the priorty is wrong?


My guy has ladies to please and uh...rather have him do it without a 2 inch nonanimated dong. -.-'


EDIT: Every time I run FNIS, there are files in the Overwrite mod. The files are:

tools\GenerateFNIS_for_Users\ Two txt documents and a file labeled "temporary_logs"
script\FNISVersionGenerated.pex
meshes\actors\character\characters female characters behaviors

[Ilja]

First one I am not sure of. I would need to know more about your game.

Second and third one are easily explained. ECE got it's sliders that were missing. This likely affected to your character.

But fourth one is a problem. ECE and RaceMenu are not fully compatible. I can't see how their slider sets are going to work together. I did not notice that you were using both.

SOS support is for XPMSE+RaceMenu. I have absolutely no idea how ECE is going to handle it. In this case it might be best to try and let RaceMenu to win conflicts against ECE. This is important anyway, because XPMSE requires NetImmerse Override, which is included to RaceMenu.

[SilentAegis]

Publicado originalmente por Ilja:

First one I am not sure of. I would need to know more about your game.

Second and third one are easily explained. ECE got it's sliders that were missing. This likely affected to your character.

But fourth one is a problem. ECE and RaceMenu are not fully compatible. I can't see how their slider sets are going to work together. I did not notice that you were using both.

SOS support is for XPMSE+RaceMenu. I have absolutely no idea how ECE is going to handle it. In this case it might be best to try and let RaceMenu to win conflicts against ECE. This is important anyway, because XPMSE requires NetImmerse Override, which is included to RaceMenu.

I'm using both? I didn't realize. RaceMenu is supposed to be completely removed from my game. ( It caused a pretty annoying glitch ) It's not in my mod list.


Should I just put RaceMenu back into my game and be rid of ECE? After cleaning up my game and reinstalling it a few weeks ago, the glitch was gone. It messed up my character's face, however, so that's why I got rid of it.

( Thanks for the fast reply )

[Ilja]

Publicado originalmente por SilentAegis:

I'm using both? I didn't realize. RaceMenu is supposed to be completely removed from my game. ( It caused a pretty annoying glitch ) It's not in my mod list.

( Thanks for the fast reply )

Damn. I accidentially searched my own mod list.

[SilentAegis]

Publicado originalmente por Ilja:

Publicado originalmente por SilentAegis:

I'm using both? I didn't realize. RaceMenu is supposed to be completely removed from my game. ( It caused a pretty annoying glitch ) It's not in my mod list.

( Thanks for the fast reply )

Damn. I accidentially searched my own mod list.

LOL...

[Ilja]

Yep. It is almost past 01:00 at morning. I will need to take a nap soon. XD

That still leaves a problem. I did not see NetImmerse Override in your mod list. XPMSE is not going to behave correctly without it.

NetImmerse Override by Expired
http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/37481/?

As said, I have no idea how SOS behaves with ECE.

Did RaceMenu create a problem for you? If it did, then are you sure that it was not due to resource priority conflict?

I am asking, because RaceMenu should be more compatible with other mods than ECE. Reason for this is that ECE team has not been too forthcoming with their source, so compatibility features are quite scarce. Expired, Groovtama and Fore worked hard to make NiO, RaceMenu, XPMSE and FNIS compatibility features sync together.

Caliente and her crew added CBBE/UUNP RaceMenu support to BodySlide, so RaceMenu is indeed the recommended and most compatible character editor around.

I am absolutely not recommending to try it out again for ongoing game, but if you ever restart, then you may wish to see if your problems with RaceMenu are history.