dagger damage

[ichigo]

good day folks,

this time i really want to know which perks and enchantments does work with daggers
as i know, daggers benefit from the green perk trees (bow, sneak)
there are rumors about one handed perks and today i finally want to know whats the truth now?

armsman increases one handed dmg by x%, daggers do NOT benefit from this perk it says
dual flurry increases attack speed when 2 weapons are equipped
-> once i tested dual flurry with two daggers and it worked well, a much faster attackspeed was noticeable!
what about dual savagery? it increases atk dmg by 50%when attacking with both weapons, does it affect daggers???
what about all other 1h perks? less stamina usage for example? paralysis?
i already know, enchantments for 1 hand dmg does not affect dagger dmg output
i mean, if daggers dont benefit from the 1-handed skilltree why does it lvl up the 1 handed tree?

ive got the guidebook for skyrim, which says armsman should be maxed when dual daggers are used (rogue guide)

[Chikuwu]

idk where you got your information from.

One handed increases damage of ALL one handed weapons, was it blunt, dagger, sword, or axe.

Even in the game files when you open up lets say Iron Dagger, its base damage value code is EXACTLY the same as sword is, but its multiplier is much less than that of a sword (so that it does less damage per strike)

SOME MODS change this. Overhaul mods change dagger damage to be static, smithing depended.

ORIGINAL game doesnt have that, and it does exact same damage and benefits from exact same values as one handed sword does.

Bow perks DONT increase dagger damage. Sneak damage multipliers are based on weapon, doesnt affect damage. You can add a point to damage perk called backstab that gives DOUBLE x multiplier, you do 6x original damage instead of 3 in one hit.

Dual One handed weapons do the same perk-wise, Dual Fury gives always the multiplier when you have 2x attacking weapons in your hands. They can be maces or axes, ro swords or daggers, it always increases damage.

Fortify One Handed enhancement/Potion does NOT increase damage of daggers, and thats because of balance. If it would increase it, they would kill ANYTHING, even alduin, in one sneak attack.

[Bomb Bloke]

Originally posted by Chiku:

Fortify One Handed enhancement/Potion does NOT increase damage of daggers, and thats because of balance.

That's, um, debatable. In the vanilla game, Fortify Archery potions buff them instead. With the unofficial patches in place, Fortify One-handed does work on daggers.

Originally posted by Nocturnus:

-> once i tested dual flurry with two daggers and it worked well, a much faster attackspeed was noticeable!

When performing a standard dual-wield attack (clicking, but not holding, both mouse buttons at the same time), the speed relies entirely on what your character has in their left hand. Feel free to stick something slower but more powerful in the right; it won't slow you down.

[Chikuwu]

Originally posted by Bomb Bloke:

Originally posted by Chiku:

Fortify One Handed enhancement/Potion does NOT increase damage of daggers, and thats because of balance.

That's, um, debatable. In the vanilla game, Fortify Archery potions buff them instead. With the unofficial patches in place, Fortify One-handed does work on daggers.

Originally posted by Nocturnus:

-> once i tested dual flurry with two daggers and it worked well, a much faster attackspeed was noticeable!

When performing a standard dual-wield attack (clicking, but not holding, both mouse buttons at the same time), the speed relies entirely on what your character has in their left hand. Feel free to stick something slower but more powerful in the right; it won't slow you down.

I see, i use unofficial patches so ive only read and seen trough Creation Kit whats on place. In unofficial patch game i changed that fortify potions/enhancements dont increase dagger damage myself so it would stay balanced :D