Vampire or Werewolf ? Vampires or Dawnguard ?

[ThrekR | Scruto]

I would like to know some pros and cons since I don't know what I should pick. lvl 17 atm

[Docsprock]

Join Companions, play as werewolf until you get to Volkihar. Hard save.

Then choose vampire or Dawnguard. Play until you get tired of it, then reload previous save, and play as the other.

You can then switch between saves as vampire or Dawnguard, whichever you prefer.

You can also play this game more than one time. Play as a vampire. Then start a new game, play as Dawnguard.

[alexander_dougherty]

Werewolves are just melee animals, to stay as a werewolf they have to consume human hearts, otherwise they time out inside of five minutes. And you are limited to how many times a day (day in the game, not real life) you can change into a werewolf.

Volkihar Vampires are more tactical, you need to plan how you are going to fight with them, and their abilities are fairly weak until you put enough points into the Vampire Lord skill tree. You can die quite easily as a Volkihar Vampire.

Also be aware that ordinary Vampires are weaker still, they have no skill tree, just some persuasion abilities, avoid turning into a regular vampire.

[TEA || IT'S CHRISTMAS]

I'd be a vampire lord, unlimited transforms and ranged spells.

[wowszer]

If you don't regularly give up your present player, then start a new player by about level 30, then play both. I start out as Vampire Lord, build my stats until max, then get the bow, then kill Harkon. Remember to free Serena's mother. Then join the Companions, become a werewolf. Build up until max, free Kodlak's soul, free yourself if you want. You will be human again though.

[GrimCat]

Originally posted by alexander_dougherty:

Werewolves are just melee animals, to stay as a werewolf they have to consume human hearts, otherwise they time out inside of five minutes. And you are limited to how many times a day (day in the game, not real life) you can change into a werewolf.

Volkihar Vampires are more tactical, you need to plan how you are going to fight with them, and their abilities are fairly weak until you put enough points into the Vampire Lord skill tree. You can die quite easily as a Volkihar Vampire.

Also be aware that ordinary Vampires are weaker still, they have no skill tree, just some persuasion abilities, avoid turning into a regular vampire.

Moonlight tales essentials with werewolf mastery mods will allow you to change whenever you want for as long as you want.
Better Vampires mod let's personalize vamps to your taste. I don't even bother with vampire lord form.

[DrSuperEvil]

Do companions quest line until completed and max werewolf (savage feeding makes it alot easier as every fox rabbit and goat then counts). Do dawnguard plot and side with the dawnguard. At the soul carn become a vampire. Cure vampirism so they give you the final plot quest and kill harkon. Become a vampire again when serena talks to you. Siding with the dawnguard gives you enhanced dwarven crossbows which are pretty strong and armored troll pets while siding with the volkaire vampires gives you many buggy side quests, rings and amulets for improving the abilities of the vampire lord and a temporary (up to 1 game week) boost to blood magic giving it magica and stamina drain.

Long term vampire lord is better than werewolf because necromage boosts your enchanting to insane levels (70% weapon boosts that become 83%) although normal vampires also have that.

[GrimCat]

Originally posted by DrSuperEvil:

Do companions quest line until completed and max werewolf (savage feeding makes it alot easier as every fox rabbit and goat then counts). Do dawnguard plot and side with the dawnguard. At the soul carn become a vampire. Cure vampirism so they give you the final plot quest and kill harkon. Become a vampire again when serena talks to you. Siding with the dawnguard gives you enhanced dwarven crossbows which are pretty strong and armored troll pets while siding with the volkaire vampires gives you many buggy side quests, rings and amulets for improving the abilities of the vampire lord and a temporary (up to 1 game week) boost to blood magic giving it magica and stamina drain.

Long term vampire lord is better than werewolf because necromage boosts your enchanting to insane levels (70% weapon boosts that become 83%) although normal vampires also have that.

Yeah, but not everyone is into meta-gaming.

[𐂃]

Do companions quest line until completed and max werewolf (savage feeding makes it alot easier as every fox rabbit and goat then counts). Do dawnguard plot and side with the dawnguard. At the soul carn become a vampire. Cure vampirism so they give you the final plot quest and kill harkon. Become a vampire again when serena talks to you. Siding with the dawnguard gives you enhanced dwarven crossbows which are pretty strong and armored troll pets while siding with the volkaire vampires gives you many buggy side quests, rings and amulets for improving the abilities of the vampire lord and a temporary (up to 1 game week) boost to blood magic giving it magica and stamina drain.

Long term vampire lord is better than werewolf because necromage boosts your enchanting to insane levels (70% weapon boosts that become 83%) although normal vampires also have that.

[alexander_dougherty]

Originally posted by jimanity:

Originally posted by alexander_dougherty:

Werewolves are just melee animals, to stay as a werewolf they have to consume human hearts, otherwise they time out inside of five minutes. And you are limited to how many times a day (day in the game, not real life) you can change into a werewolf.

Volkihar Vampires are more tactical, you need to plan how you are going to fight with them, and their abilities are fairly weak until you put enough points into the Vampire Lord skill tree. You can die quite easily as a Volkihar Vampire.

Also be aware that ordinary Vampires are weaker still, they have no skill tree, just some persuasion abilities, avoid turning into a regular vampire.

Moonlight tales essentials with werewolf mastery mods will allow you to change whenever you want for as long as you want.
Better Vampires mod let's personalize vamps to your taste. I don't even bother with vampire lord form.

Yes, but I was describing the unmodded basics, people can mod anything into something else, but that's assuming someone wants to mod it, not evryone wants to, which is why I described the unmodded vanilla base-state for vampires and werewolves.

[GrimCat]

Originally posted by alexander_dougherty:

Originally posted by jimanity:

Moonlight tales essentials with werewolf mastery mods will allow you to change whenever you want for as long as you want.
Better Vampires mod let's personalize vamps to your taste. I don't even bother with vampire lord form.

Yes, but I was describing the unmodded basics, people can mod anything into something else, but that's assuming someone wants to mod it, not evryone wants to, which is why I described the unmodded vanilla base-state for vampires and werewolves.

And I was describing what is possible with mods, people can choose not to mod anything into something else. That's assuming someone doesn't want to mod it, not everyone likes vanilla, which is why I described a couple of mods for vampires and werewolves.

[Chompman]

If this is your first play-through I would go with werewolf for the companion questline and cure it as honestly it's not that worthwhile other then maybe going for the achievement as it's not a ton of content.

You don't even have to cure it if you don't want to as there is no downside really other then the sleeping buff never happening and you can always become it if you want but it's not usually worth it.

Then do the questline of the dawnguard until you return serana to the castle and have a save there and I would go with the dawnguard for your main game as it's easier until you get used to the game enough and once you finish as much of it as you want go the vampire way or to just try both to see if you like one more then the other.

It can be tricky going the way of a vampire because of the downsides of it until you read up on it and are more ready for it.

[Clever Monkey]

I believe that when offered a choice like vampire or dawnguard you should actually replay the game and select the opposite of the first time.

go with whatever you feel is right for you or your character.

personally I enjoy being a vampire. not being a vampire lord form though. I enjoy using my enhanced sneak and Illusion skills.

there is no reason to choose vampire or werewolf though. play 1 questline and then play the other.

I do not like the werewolf form at all. the higher level you get the werewolf seems to get weaker than you can achieve in your normal form with enchantments, etc. The same can be said for the vampire lord as well. do 1 or the other as quickly as you can to max their relative forms.

[Daywalker]

you can max the werewolf and then change to vampire if its for the archivments. Selina can turn you into a vampirelord if you killed her father.

[Solomon Hawk]

@ ㊛3kR㊛ : Honestly, I've done both. The biggest difference I can tell you about it are these thoughts:
1. if you choose to go with the vampires, you can still be cured later on.
>>>>even if you're cured, the Dawnguard will still attack you.
2. If you choose vampire, the Dawnguard will attack you randomly .. out in the open anywhere at anytime including in the cities and this can be a real pain in the backside especially if you have any collateral damage that gets other people involved.
3. Other vampires will still be hostile toward you.
3. If you choose Dawnguard, the vampires will still attack you, but not nearly as openly since they are mostly nightcrawlers and cave dwellers.
4. With the right dialog, you can convince Serana to cure herself of vampirism.
(She goes to the same wizard who you would go to for the cure).
>>>>She is still accepted by the Dawnguard and she still retains her powers.
>>>>She's a decent follower, but sometimes she gets in the way.

[ThrekR | Scruto]

I just wanted to thank you all for the great answers!