Elf Body/Face Mismatch problem

[halogamb]

I've noticed now that some elves have mismatched faces and bodies. Like a dark elf with a dark face and a clearly brighter body. If fixing this problem is going to require an immense amount of work or a complete redo from the ground up then i'll just ignore it. Any help or advice is greatly appreciated. This post is also on reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/skyrimmods/comments/53l3ld/grey_faceneck_seam_issue/

The body/texture mods I have are
Better Males
CBBE
True Daughters of Skyrim
Ethereal Elven Overhaul
-DLC Patch for DG/DB
-USKP/USLEEP Patch
-Jenassa and Irileth Original Warpaint Patch

For about an hour, a few days ago, I had Better Males swapped out with SkySight Skins, in case that might've messed anything up. I also tested out Women of Skyrim briefly before settling on True Daughters of SKyrim.

Full mod list:

0 0 Skyrim.esm
1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Dawnguard.esm
3 3 HearthFires.esm
4 4 Dragonborn.esm
5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
6 6 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
7 7 ApachiiHair.esm
8 8 ApachiiHairFemales.esm
9 9 ApachiiHairMales.esm
10 a RaceCompatibility.esm
11 b SC_Drow Race.esm
12 c EFFCore.esm
13 d SESnowElfRace.esm
14 e JSwords.esm
15 f HighResTexturePack01.esp
16 10 HighResTexturePack02.esp
17 11 HighResTexturePack03.esp
18 12 Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp
19 13 better dynamic snow.esp
20 14 EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
21 15 1k_dds_nif_vurts-flora-overhaul.esp
22 16 1k_dds_shrubs.esp
23 17 Auto Unequip Ammo.esp
24 18 Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
25 19 ELFX - Exteriors.esp
26 1a ELFX - Dawnguard.esp
27 1b ELFX - Dragonborn.esp
28 1c ELFXEnhancer.esp
29 1d SkyUI.esp
30 1e Dual Sheath Redux.esp
31 1f RaceMenu.esp
32 20 RaceMenuPlugin.esp
33 21 UIExtensions.esp
34 22 AOS.esp
35 23 Invisibility Eyes Fix.esp
36 24 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
37 25 Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp
38 26 dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp
39 27 JKs Towns.esp
40 28 ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp
41 29 OBIS.esp
42 2a OBISDB.esp
43 2b RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp
44 2c Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
45 2d Immersive Weapons.esp
46 2e JKs LITE - Merged.esp
47 2f Cloaks.esp
48 30 Run For Your Lives.esp
49 31 noiraldg.esp
50 32 StavesofSkyrim.esp
51 33 Point The Way.esp
52 34 NPO Module - Crossbows.esp
53 35 JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp
54 36 Immersive Patrols II.esp
55 37 lt_camping.esp
56 38 KillThemGenerals.esp
57 39 Purewaters.esp
58 3a Provincial Courier Service.esp
59 3b Drinking Fountains of Skyrim.esp
60 3c RND_PureWaters-Patch.esp
61 3d RND_AnimalLoot.esp
62 3e RND_DrinkingFountains-Patch.esp
63 3f VioLens.esp
64 40 stranger_danger.esp
65 41 Forsworn Children.esp
66 42 Bandit Patrols.esp
67 43 Cloaks - USKP Patch.esp
68 44 TemptressVixen.esp
69 45 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
70 46 Extended Encounters.esp
71 47 HoldBorderBanners.esp
72 48 StormCloakFollowers.esp
73 49 ApachiiHelmetWigs.esp
74 4a 1nivWICCloaks.esp
75 4b 1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp
76 4c Jojjos Warglaives.esp
77 4d PrvtI_HeavyArmory.esp
78 4e PrvtI_HeavyArmory_DG_Addon.esp
79 4f Silverlight Armor.esp
80 50 When Vampires Attack.esp
81 51 Convenient Horses.esp
82 52 Better Vampires.esp
83 53 RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp
84 54 Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
85 55 VL No AoE Drain.esp
86 56 Improved Dragon Shouts.esp
87 57 Improved Dragon Shouts - Dawnguard.esp
88 58 Improved Dragon Shouts - Dragonborn.esp
89 59 DragonFire - Improved Dragon Shouts Compatibility.esp
90 5a FNISspells.esp
91 5b Brows.esp
92 5c SGEyebrows.esp
93 5d Dwemer_Race.esp
94 5e Slightly Reduced Distance NPC Greetings.esp
95 5f dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Medium.esp
96 60 ESO Altmer Armor by NewrMind43.esp
97 61 SleepMenuExtender.esp
98 62 skyrimbachelorsandbachelorettesdawnguard.esp
99 63 EFFDialogue.esp
100 64 LovelyHairstylesCE.esp
101 65 MidnightBreed.esp
102 66 Realistic Nights NightEyePredatorVision.esp
103 67 RealisticNights+DB+DG.esp
104 68 Supreme Storms.esp
105 69 vSCM_SmarterCombatMusic.esp
106 6a OBIS DG Faction Patch.esp
CalienteVanillaArmorTweaks.esp
107 6b Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
108 6c imp_helm_legend.esp
109 6d DaedraHuntress.esp
110 6e FNIS.esp
111 6f XPMSE.esp
112 70 OBISCloaks&IA7.esp
113 71 AOS_ICS Patch.esp
114 72 AOS2_EBT Patch.esp
115 73 AOS2_SupremeStorms Patch.esp
116 74 HousecarlWhiterun.esp
117 75 JSwords_Load_Screens.esp
118 76 bodyscars.esp
119 77 Sycos Beautiful NPC - Aela The Huntress.esp
120 78 The Ningheim.esp
121 79 DragonBlood.esp
122 7a EEO - USP (2.0.4a) Patch.esp
123 7b Falmer.esp
124 7c Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
125 7d Bashed Patch, 0.esp
126 7e Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp

[cfs111]

This is one of the few problems I have never had to fix, so BUMP.

[Falro the Great]

Originally posted by kittehoverlord:

Those sex mods will make you go blind.

What sex mods? Not seeing any, not that they would be a problem.

OP, I have seen that the Bandit Patrols plugin from OBIS can have this problem. I would advise disabling it, as apparently the author/someone knowledgable has warned against it (though no explanation given).

[halogamb]

Originally posted by Falro the Great:

Originally posted by kittehoverlord:

Those sex mods will make you go blind.

What sex mods? Not seeing any, not that they would be a problem.

OP, I have seen that the Bandit Patrols plugin from OBIS can have this problem. I would advise disabling it, as apparently the author/someone knowledgable has warned against it (though no explanation given).

I'll keep it in mind, but i've seen the problem I described in the post happening with Vanilla NPCs as well as ones from mods, elves typically. Also there are no sex mods so i'm not entirely sure what that's about.

[Hidden Scope]

I believe you're referring to the infamous neck seam issue. It's something that is not easy to fix. Generally caused by mismatching texture/colors from face and body mods.

[halogamb]

Originally posted by Unkindled Ashen One:

I believe you're referring to the infamous neck seam issue. It's something that is not easy to fix. Generally caused by mismatching texture/colors from face and body mods.

Tried to do exporting Facegen for the NPCs that were suffering from the grey face here as it seemed to be a conflict with Ethereal Elven Overhaul, and when I tried to it gave errors saying it failed to load hair, hairline, femalebrows, femalehead, mouthhumanf, eyesfemale....all .nif files. It does this for both genders of NPCs. I'm at a complete loss.

[Uncle64]

Do you have installed your body textures and meshes in correct order?
You problem do come when you install in wrong order.

Since you use cbbe did you run Bodyslide? and cleared out the old meshes first befor you did run it?

Did forget, is it all elf that have wrong colur on their head? That is one annoying issue that is hard to get rid of.

[halogamb]

Originally posted by Uncle64Swe:

Do you have installed your body textures and meshes in correct order?
You problem do come when you install in wrong order.

Since you use cbbe did you run Bodyslide? and cleared out the old meshes first befor you did run it?

Did forget, is it all elf that have wrong colur on their head? That is one annoying issue that is hard to get rid of.

The load order is LOOT approved. I did not use bodyslide. Right now it's strictly several elves that have the problem and I verified this both in game and corresponding on TESVEdit.

[Uncle64]

Your loadorder is fine, what I was asking did you install and overwrite correct files?
What mod manager do you use?

[halogamb]

Originally posted by Uncle64Swe:

Your loadorder is fine, what I was asking did you install and overwrite correct files?
What mod manager do you use?

I use NMM.

[Uncle64]

It have been more easy to fix in MO then in NMM.
You actually need to remove all body mods, all of them and then after that install them in the correct order.
And that takes some time to do. I should go whit your suggestion in your first post. Ignore it for some time.

[76561198034396398]

try using TexBlend in CalienteTools,a lighter body can be caused by armor mods eg using UNP with CBBE,dark heads can also be caused by missing hair mods,the file Humanhead.msn DDS in the textures folder might be causing problems as dark elves use a different head texture file to the human races/body file location C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Skyrim\Data\Textures\actors\character\darkelffemale