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This is weird as in my previous playthrough with a different char I killed him. I haven't added any more mods since then.
I've joined them plus the Dark Brotherhood so maybe that's why it's sort of conflicting? Maybe I need to complete a quest I haven't yet recieved from the Thieves Guild fiist before killing him for the Dark Brotherhood?
you could just try this to find out if he is essential:
"To check whether an NPC is essential to begin with, select him/her in the console (so that the ref ID appears), and enter IsEssential - if the console returns "1.00", the NPC is essential."
Better to do as Alexander told about. And others do say.
Ah ok that doesn't sound good. It's a pain as I can't just alt tab out the game to check. Thanks.
Shift-Tab out and use the Steam browser.
I know but I don't use google & I'm not sure how safe it is to use steam's browser. I've been told before not to use it.
Once inside I searched around the house & found what I needed then after spoke to Jorleif.
Outside wandering around the city was a women, spoke to her then went back to jorleif again & the quest was completed.
The 2 YT vids I watched were at different parts of the quest to me (as there's many parts) & done in a different order to mine so were not much help.
Yes it was night time so it was very dark so no way to see it. The arrow marker seemed to indicate that I needed to investigate the surface of the tomb. When I walked up to it nothing happened so I was kind of lost as I had no reason to look at the floor & follow a trail as I didn't really know what I was supposed to be doing in the first place other than looking in the area of this floating white arrow marker.
I needed that gadget Ethan uses in Condemned.