Neck seam in clean, vanilla Skyrim.

[Slimane]

I started playing Skyrim again for the first time in many years, but I had an old installation and decided to try with it. Not long after I realized I had a subtle neck seam. I tried countless things and nothing worked.

So I completely deleted everything related to skyrim or it's mods. Including all folders and the mod manager itself. I then did a clean install of Skyrim on a new drive. I launch the game with a single mod (live another life so I can skip the intro) and I STILL have the same neck seam I had before I did a clean reinstall.

I haven't played Skyrim forever, is it normal that even vanilla skyrim has some neck seams? Or what the hell is going on?

https://prnt.sc/dcQBfGFVxdL7

[Slimane]

I just installed demonized UNB and Fair skin mods and the same neck seam is visible. All from a clean install. I'm really at a loss here...

[smr1957]

It could be caused by the weight that you chose for your character - if you chose something less than 100, that could possibly result in a seam when wearing different types of clothes or armor.

[Slimane]

引用自 smr1957：

It could be caused by the weight that you chose for your character - if you chose something less than 100, that could possibly result in a seam when wearing different types of clothes or armor.

Already tried that, changing the weight slider has no effect on the seam unfortunately.

[Alex]

1. Can you provide an even smaller screenshot? And zoom it out more?
2. Are there truly no mods left? Mod managers or steam might have reinstalled them.
3. Did you delete all of the previous installation's files?
4. Is the seam visible with no clothing on?

[Slimane]

引用自 Alex：

1. Can you provide an even smaller screenshot? And zoom it out more?
2. Are there truly no mods left? Mod managers or steam might have reinstalled them.
3. Did you delete all of the previous installation's files?
4. Is the seam visible with no clothing on?

1. I could try to get a better screenshot but after two days of trying to figure this out I kind of gave up on Skyrim for now.

2/3. I literally made sure to delete every single file for Skyrim and it's mods/mod manager, before reinstall Skyrim in a completely new drive and using Vortex instead of NMM. I don't use the steam workshop.

4. Yes.

[Alex]

Well, it's quite hard to see the seam, so I can't say anything definitve without seeing it up close and from multiple angles.

[Slimane]

引用自 Alex：

Well, it's quite hard to see the seam, so I can't say anything definitve without seeing it up close and from multiple angles.

For some reason it seems to be more apparent when zoomed out or at certain angles.

Here is a screenshot after a clean reinstall of Skyrim on new drive with no mods (except skes and alternative start to avoid the long intro) :

https://prnt.sc/2LCq5i35V7b8

Here are two screenshots when I have both UNP and Fair skin:

https://prnt.sc/E8liL2hhKelJ

https://prnt.sc/yF95RFAzWdQI

As you can see, it's not the worst seam. So I'll probably just end up playing this way regardless because I haven't played Skyrim in nearly a decade but I'm just baffled at how it would still be there after a clean reinstall in a new drive even using a different mod manager.

I'm more annoyed that something isn't working right than the actual seam. made sure to delete everything to avoid this precise thing.

I think I also forgot to mention that I had an old installation of Skyrim that was on the pc for years but on another drive. I started noticing that same seam after I played around with the body/face textures a few days ago when I decided to start playing again. I tried everything to fix it but since nothing worked I opted for the clean reinstall on my SSD.

[smr1957]

When doing a clean reinstall, you should follow this:
Resetting Skyrim to Vanilla or A Clean Reinstall by grimus - http://steamcommunity.com/app/72850/discussions/0/357285562484690267/
(from PINNED TOPIC Helpful Links and References, Section 5, General Troubleshooting)

Though you said that you did everything necessary (and from what you posted it sounds like your did), still, it would be a good idea to check it again using the above guide - just in case there was something you missed.

[Alex]

The first seam looks like the "usual" issue when there's a mismatch with textures or/and normalmaps. The last two, however, look way off, more like the head mesh is wrong or corrupted. The resolution of the sceenshot is still bad, though. Just use "tfc" to zoom in.

I can merely guess, of course, but let's see:
1. The mod managers use a different folder to store their files. Did you delete that one as well? Is the new folder truly empty?
2. Were the .ini files deleted as well?
3. Have you installed the Hi-res texture packs?

[Slimane]

The reason the screenshots are in weird resolution is simply because I use Lightshot to take a screenshot of a specific area of the screen, I find it very convenient. Also the seams are more apparent when zoomed out.

1/2. Yes.
3. Now that's interesting, I just realized that Steam installed the High res texture pack on it's own and I didn't realize it. You might be on to something. I'll remove it later and see if that was the problem.

Thanks for the help.

PS: I just removed the high res textures from steam, not sure if I need to do more to correctly deinstall it but the seam is still there.

[xxx]

just wanted everyone to know...its possible to have UNP, Fair Skin and pretty face installed without getting a neck steam problem

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/1865069047568632487/195EB80448212DB0E3D486E46651055EE5BF4552/?imw=5000&imh=5000&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=false

I use plain UNP or UUNP...Fair Skin and pretty face of course

In the picture I'm actually using an additional texture set

She's not done...needs to be sculpted more

She's part of a Witcher outfit mod that I was working on

[Alex]

引用自 Slimane：

The reason the screenshots are in weird resolution is simply because I use Lightshot to take a screenshot of a specific area of the screen, I find it very convenient. Also the seams are more apparent when zoomed out.

Using a third-party tool to make screenshots?

引用自 Slimane：

1/2. Yes.
3. Now that's interesting, I just realized that Steam installed the High res texture pack on it's own and I didn't realize it. You might be on to something. I'll remove it later and see if that was the problem.

Thanks for the help.

I'll try to simulate a few such problems and see if anything similar to your issues pop up.

As I said, the first problem is definitely an issue of mismatched normalmaps. Look into the folder \Data\textures\actors\character\female\ and see if there's something inside.

引用自 Slimane：

PS: I just removed the high res textures from steam, not sure if I need to do more to correctly deinstall it but the seam is still there.

You don't need to uninstall them, simply disabling the .esp's is enough.

引用自 xxx：

just wanted everyone to know...its possible to have UNP, Fair Skin and pretty face installed without getting a neck steam problem

1. We know
2. This is the wrong place to show "her" off
3. Also, there nothing to show off, actually

[xxx]

Alex - as I said I just wanted to show its possible.

Lots of questions here don't get solved...and I didn't want people do think that it wasn't possible

Furthermore you need to stop being so evil

If I wanted to show off...I would have posted Wanda Vision or anything made ATA / gabriel08 (they are part of my group's collection - for the past 3 years my followers have been most downloaded followers on Steam)

And sorry if you don't like her or her outfits. She comes from a outfit mod...not a follower mod...an outfit mod

And focus on the problem...stop insulting people every chance you can get.

And give it a break with his screenshots...i'm pretty sure he did the best that he could do...be lucky that you got something...most people don't want to hand over anything

And I'm not going to tell everyone who has 136 awards and who has just 11 nor will I tell who has the most followers

[Alex]

引用自 xxx：

Alex - as I said I just wanted to show its possible.

Lots of questions here don't get solved...and I didn't want people do think that it wasn't possible

It's entirely possible to fix the neck seams. Those normalmaps issues were identified ages ago. In fact, those problems are entirely avoidable now.

引用自 xxx：

Furthermore you need to stop being so evil

No. Muahahaahaha!

引用自 xxx：

If I wanted to show off...I would have posted Wanda Vision or anything made ATA / gabriel08 (they are part of my group's collection - for the past 3 years my followers have been most downloaded followers on Steam)

And sorry if you don't like her or her outfits. She comes from a outfit mod...not a follower mod...an outfit mod
And focus on the problem...stop insulting people every chance you can get.

I'm certainly not insulting anyone. But I am focusing on the problem, and that post didn't contribute to the solution.

引用自 xxx：

And give it a break with his screenshots...i'm pretty sure he did the best that he could do...be lucky that you got something...most people don't want to hand over anything

If he wants help, then he'd need to cooperate. Based on the available data, I'm currently unable to troubleshoot the second issue. Besides, taking screenshots shouldn't be that difficult.

Those seams in the second and third screenshot look rather weird. Upon a closer look, it's almost as if there's an overlay that doesn't fit properly. But OP didn't install anything like that, so it is kind of weird.

-EDIT-
Do I see RaceMenu in the second screenshot? I concentrated on the seams and overlooked that one. Did you place a weird overlay with it? Or imported some presets? Often, those come with their own textures.

[Slimane]

I actually have horrible upload and can take a while to upload full screenshots, so I simply use that program. Especially useful when you only need a specific area of the screen.

https://imgur.com/a/XujwlLd

Here are three screenshots I just took after getting rid of both unp body and fair skin. I also made sure that the folder you asked me to check was empty and it was. I currently have a few mods but they're unrelated to skins/textures/body. And like I said, the same neck seam was present with a clean reinstall in a new drive with no mods.