was Kematu right?

[Zes]

I delivered a nice woman into the hands of a gang of dudes with big, big curved.. swords.

Was this a right thing to do? I wonder what did they do to her after... poor Saaida.

Anyone knows if there is a way to know who was telling the truth.. anything in elder scrolls lore? any reference from previous games?

[alexander_dougherty]

Nope, the details from either side were wrong.....

[Primis00]

In my opinion Kematu was able to give the most details. Doesnt mean he's right but if you only go by the facts they both give you, Kematu can explain more then she can.

[alexander_dougherty]

Originally posted by Dead Man's Hand:

In my opinion Kematu was able to give the most details. Doesnt mean he's right but if you only go by the facts they both give you, Kematu can explain more then she can.

Yes but the facts he gives you are wrong....

[CEPHY]

I just hand her over because she annoys me.

Like, I sit down by the fire, and instantly get interrupted by "cAn I bRiNg YoU aNyThInG?" No, no you can not. If I want something I'll ask, leave me alone. Besides, I have like 400 bottles on me.

You could also hand her over, get paid, and then kill Kematu and loot him. Double payment.

[Primis00]

Originally posted by alexander_dougherty:

Originally posted by Dead Man's Hand:

In my opinion Kematu was able to give the most details. Doesnt mean he's right but if you only go by the facts they both give you, Kematu can explain more then she can.

Yes but the facts he gives you are wrong....

Well how do we know what she says is true then? I think it sounds like BS from both of them.

[kharille]

I built up my heavy armour and shield with those guys.

[Master Talon]

tbh if you help Saadia you can take almost anything from the Bannered Mare without stealing

[alexander_dougherty]

Originally posted by Dead Man's Hand:

Originally posted by alexander_dougherty:

Yes but the facts he gives you are wrong....

Well how do we know what she says is true then? I think it sounds like BS from both of them.

Because there are Books in the game about the war for Hammerfell, the dates for what is supposed to have happened are about ten years after the war for Hammerfell finished, and the details from either party don't match how it went.

There were also Lore entries about the war between Hammerfell and the Aldmeri Dominion on the various wikis.

Basically Both parties seem to be lying, but given Kematu is taking Saadia to be executed I maintain he has to prove it while she just has to maintain some doubt about what happened.
And the fact Jarl Balgruf appears to know about it, and it's ultimately his decision to make, not ours, mean I generally avoid the quest entirely.

[no1schmo]

The quest is meant to be uncertain. Here's the thing, though, in my view; if Kematu is right, I still don't see the point in handing her over. Saadia has been forced to flee all the way to Skyrim to live the life of a commoner for presumably the rest of her life. She has been sufficiently punished, I think; her whole life is destroyed, she had to leave everything and everyone she knows, she's no longer a threat to anyone.

Meanwhile, Kematu's gang is a GANG; they hang out with actual bandits in a dank cave in the middle of nowhere, they've already broken the law and angered the guards, they basically seem no different from the thugs who come after you sometimes for theft.

So as I see it, he and his men probably deserve to die anyway, being mercenaries who operate in the morally grey area at best, while she is already living the life of a miserable fugitive exiled from her home. Siding with Kematu rewards some thugs and potentially condemns an innocent woman, while siding with Saadia results in the death of some thugs while allowing a woman, whose life was already destroyed, the chance to start over. So even if she's lying, I'd much rather go that route.

[Primis00]

Originally posted by alexander_dougherty:

Originally posted by Dead Man's Hand:

Well how do we know what she says is true then? I think it sounds like BS from both of them.

Because there are Books in the game about the war for Hammerfell, the dates for what is supposed to have happened are about ten years after the war for Hammerfell finished, and the details from either party don't match how it went.

There were also Lore entries about the war between Hammerfell and the Aldmeri Dominion on the various wikis.

Basically Both parties seem to be lying, but given Kematu is taking Saadia to be executed I maintain he has to prove it while she just has to maintain some doubt about what happened.
And the fact Jarl Balgruf appears to know about it, and it's ultimately his decision to make, not ours, mean I generally avoid the quest entirely.

Yeah i also avoid the quest cuz i dont think its very interesting or give any type of reward that makes it worthwhile. And yeah the quest is meant for you to question who really tells the truth. But for me since Kematsu actually tells you more than Saadia, Im leaning more towards him, Saadia didnt exactly give me an impression of someone i should want to help, And Kematsu actually seemed pretty reasonable since he doesnt want any more bloodshed.

[no1schmo]

Originally posted by Dead Man's Hand:

Originally posted by alexander_dougherty:

Because there are Books in the game about the war for Hammerfell, the dates for what is supposed to have happened are about ten years after the war for Hammerfell finished, and the details from either party don't match how it went.

There were also Lore entries about the war between Hammerfell and the Aldmeri Dominion on the various wikis.

Basically Both parties seem to be lying, but given Kematu is taking Saadia to be executed I maintain he has to prove it while she just has to maintain some doubt about what happened.
And the fact Jarl Balgruf appears to know about it, and it's ultimately his decision to make, not ours, mean I generally avoid the quest entirely.

Yeah i also avoid the quest cuz i dont think its very interesting or give any type of reward that makes it worthwhile. And yeah the quest is meant for you to question who really tells the truth. But for me since Kematsu actually tells you more than Saadia, Im leaning more towards him, Saadia didnt exactly give me an impression of someone i should want to help, And Kematsu actually seemed pretty reasonable since he doesnt want any more bloodshed.

He left his own man to rot in prison because said man made the mistake of "getting caught"; doesn't seem like something a reasonable guy, who doesn't want bloodshed, would do--seems like the actions of a criminal gang leader.

[Primis00]

Originally posted by no1schmo:

Originally posted by Dead Man's Hand:

Yeah i also avoid the quest cuz i dont think its very interesting or give any type of reward that makes it worthwhile. And yeah the quest is meant for you to question who really tells the truth. But for me since Kematsu actually tells you more than Saadia, Im leaning more towards him, Saadia didnt exactly give me an impression of someone i should want to help, And Kematsu actually seemed pretty reasonable since he doesnt want any more bloodshed.

He left his own man to rot in prison because said man made the mistake of "getting caught"; doesn't seem like something a reasonable guy, who doesn't want bloodshed, would do--seems like the actions of a criminal gang leader.

Well i mean the guy in prison seemed to understand why he was left behind. And yes they are a band of mercenaries, thats not a hidden fact. But other bandits just straight up attacks you, Kematsu doesnt.

[Vul†s]

Kill boths.

[Spirit]

i always help saadia. she is more interesting than the mercenary people

Originally posted by CEPHY:

I just hand her over because she annoys me.

Like, I sit down by the fire, and instantly get interrupted by "cAn I bRiNg YoU aNyThInG?" No, no you can not. If I want something I'll ask, leave me alone. Besides, I have like 400 bottles on me.

You could also hand her over, get paid, and then kill Kematu and loot him. Double payment.

it is her job to approach customers

[CEPHY]

Originally posted by horrors:

i always help saadia. she is more interesting than the mercenary people

Originally posted by CEPHY:

I just hand her over because she annoys me.

Like, I sit down by the fire, and instantly get interrupted by "cAn I bRiNg YoU aNyThInG?" No, no you can not. If I want something I'll ask, leave me alone. Besides, I have like 400 bottles on me.

You could also hand her over, get paid, and then kill Kematu and loot him. Double payment.

it is her job to approach customers

Well I don't like her job.