miraak impaled bug setstage doesnt work

[gneiss]

had this problem for a while and i've tried every fix i could, what happens is when i beat miraak he just stays impaled and hermaeus mora doesn't say anything and it just stays like that.
I've tried reinstalling the game, my mods, i've done the setstage commands and that will complete the quest but the black book doesn't rise from the middle so no skill reset and when i get back to solstheim the skaal dont speak to me, i've tried disabling and renabling miraak and he just gets stuck in the impaled animation again, i've used fire breath on the pool cause that's supposed to work (it didn't).
Absolutely nothing works to fix this bug, i've read so many supposed "fixes" for this same bug on loads of different sites and none of them work, kind of a last ditch effort but if anyone could suggest a fix i'd really appreciate it. (this is a repost cause my last post didnt get any replies :/)

[smr1957]

Did you try reloading an earlier save? That is usually the best option. Also, are you using mods? Do you have the Unofficial Patch installed at the very least? (If not, do so, it fixes literally thousands of bugs - though don;t know about this one because I don't even see it listed among the reported bugs in the uespwiki.)

If you are using mods, post your sorted load order here. To post your load order, just click on the 3 vertical dots in the upper right corner of the LOOT screen, click on copy load order from the drop-down menu, and then paste in the reply box here.

[gneiss]

i've tried reloading, got the unoffical legendary patch, my load order is this:
0 0 Skyrim.esm
1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Dawnguard.esm
3 3 HearthFires.esm
4 4 Dragonborn.esm
5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
6 6 Campfire.esm
7 7 hdtHighHeel.esm
8 8 ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
9 9 Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp
10 a dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
11 b HelmetToggle.esp
12 c Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp
13 d aMidianBorn_ContentAddon.esp
14 e RealShelter.esp
15 f Undeath.esp
16 10 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
17 11 AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp
18 12 aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp
19 13 Differently Ebony.esp
20 14 KS Hairdo's.esp
21 15 Unique Grasses.esp
22 16 VioLens.esp
23 17 PerMa-Content Addon Patch.esp
24 18 Wynter.esp
25 19 Eli_Ruska.esp
26 1a Vellamo.esp
27 1b RaceMenu.esp
28 1c Champion of Kynareth.esp
29 1d Tirashan.esp
30 1e PerkusMaximus_Master.esp
31 1f PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp
32 20 Further Dark Dungeons for ENB.esp
33 21 PerMa Expansion 1 - Wintermyst.esp
34 22 PerkusMaximus_Mage.esp
35 23 PerkusMaximus_Warrior.esp
36 24 Wrath Of Nature.esp
37 25 Killable Children.esp
38 26 RaceMenuPlugin.esp
39 27 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
40 28 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
41 29 female mannequins.esp
42 2a LovelyHairstylesCE.esp
43 2b SkyUI.esp
44 2c Stealth Kills.esp
45 2d ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp
46 2e dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp
47 2f Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
48 30 ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp
49 31 dD-Reduced Splatter Size.esp
50 32 ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-1.esp
51 33 dD-Reduced Wound Size.esp
52 34 Pre PaMa WAFR Patch.esp
53 35 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
54 36 PatchusMaximus.esp
55 37 RSPatch.esp

[Lifeisagame]

Well honestly i remember playing a playthru where i got the same, what fixed it was deactivate the Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp, load a save before the fight and then it did strangly go thru with it ..saved afterwards again and reenabled the patch again..
At least worth a try..

[gneiss]

I’ll have to try that one, I think there was supposed to be something about the unofficial patches causing miraak bugs, will post here if it works

[smr1957]

Originally posted by Lifeisagame:

Well honestly i remember playing a playthru where i got the same, what fixed it was deactivate the Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp, load a save before the fight and then it did strangly go thru with it ..saved afterwards again and reenabled the patch again..
At least worth a try..

First, you CANNOT deactivate the Patch (or most mods for that matter) and continue on the same playthrough and then re-eable the Patch (or another mod). Read this for full and definitive information as to why:
You CANNOT Remove Mods Mid-Playthrough - http://steamcommunity.com/app/72850/discussions/0/1495615865205745360/

Second, I can guarantee that the Patch is NOT causing the issue - despite what was just posted. Whatever anyone may have posted anywhere about the Patch CAUSING bugs is outright wrong.

[smr1957]

A quick look through your load order , and as far as the mods I know, none of them jump out at me as being the cause of this. Would strongly suggest you wait till others have a chance to weigh in and have a look before doing anything other than reloading the save made before the fight started (which you have already stated did not fix the issue).

I will ask others to take a look at this as well.

[smr1957]

Also, Gneis, did you check the Bugs section here:
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:At_the_Summit_of_Apocrypha

Although it does not have your specific bug listed, it might be worth looking at if you have not already.(though you may have already checked it based upon what you posted).

[gneiss]

yea i've looked through the bugs section and none of those fixes seem to work at least for me, the closest to a fix i managed to get is the quest to complete and miraak to die but no skill resets and the black book doesn't rise from the middle

[gneiss]

i've tried reloading a much older save from 3 quests before but that hasn't worked either :/

[Altbert]

If your problem has not yet been solved, could you provide me with 2 listings by using the console:

sqs DLC2MQ06
sqv DLC2MQ06

The first command lists all quest stages of the quest. I am particularly interested in stages 300 to 400. The second command lists all quest variables used for this quest.

I think the game got stuck in DLC2MQ06MiraakDeathScene, phase 5, where a particular quest variable should have been set, but was not.

[gneiss]

Originally posted by Altbert:

If your problem has not yet been solved, could you provide me with 2 listings by using the console:

sqs DLC2MQ06
sqv DLC2MQ06

The first command lists all quest stages of the quest. I am particularly interested in stages 300 to 400. The second command lists all quest variables used for this quest.

I think the game got stuck in DLC2MQ06MiraakDeathScene, phase 5, where a particular quest variable should have been set, but was not.

i looked at it and it does say that the DLC2MQ06MiraakDeathScene_var = none, not sure if that's what your'e looking for, but how do i copy paste the console so i can post it here?

[Altbert]

That's a start, at least. It states that quest variables have not been updated and will also be the reason why Miraak is not impaled. If you play in Steam online mode, press F12 to make a screenshot and post the link to the screen shot here. If not in online mode, you can use Win-PrintScreen to make a screenshot, post it as artwork, and post the link here. There may be other possibilties, but I always use the last one mentioned, often using GIMP2 to pick a selection of the screenshot.

[gneiss]

https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198119464366/screenshots/?appid=0&sort=newestfirst&browsefilter=myfiles&view=imagewall&privacy=30
that link should just take you to my screenshot library where they all are, tell me if that doesn't work

[Altbert]

That did work. The game definitely got stuck in phase 5 of Miraak's death scene. DLC2MQ06MiraakDeathScene_var should have been set to 1.00, either at the end of phase 4 or at the beginning of phase 5, after which the associated scene fragment script should set stage 550, which should complete the quest. Sofar I haven't found any code in quest, topic or scene fragment scripts that alters this variable (lots of scripts). You could try the following console commands, but wait some time between commands to see what happens and maybe even skipping the setstage command:

setpqv DLC2MQ06 DLC2MQ06MiraakDeathScene_var 1.00
setstage DLC2MQ06 550

If this doesn't help, I may need to search all scripts attached to this quest.

[Altbert]

Have you read this line on UESP:

"If you prematurely pass through every chapter of the Black Book: Waking Dreams before Frea tells you to avenge her father, visiting Apocrypha may not prompt Miraak or the dragons to attack. At this point the quest is broken beyond any real hope of recovery. You can use the console to force the appearance of Sahrotaar, but upon defeating Miraak, he will stay permanently impaled on Mora's tentacle. You can force the end of the quest, but Mora will never speak and the Black Book will never appear."