Dwarven armor (superior) = steel plate armor (fine) !! ???

[June raven]

I dont have the advanced armor perk (steel plate armor smithing)
and improved a steel armor set to 'fine' and the armor rating is 232 (full set)

Now i got the dwarven smithing perk
and i created full set of dwarven armor and improved it to 'superior' but still my armor rating is 232 (full set)

The individual armor stats of dwarven and steel plate is pretty close.. little up n down which adds up to same 232 armor rating ..

According to wikia -
dwarven - base armor - 104 (set)
steel plate - base armor - 87 (set)

So the dwarven armor should be stronger right ? Atleast the superior one compared to the fine steel plate ?..

Can someone explain why its not ?
Sorry if this is a noob question :p
ill add some extra details in the comments

[June raven]

Level 27
smithing - 32
heavy armor - 60
with 2 perks -
juggernaut - 3/5 -increase armor rating by 60%

Well fitted - 25% bonus if wearing all heavy armor

[June raven]

anyone ?

[koomah]

Do you have Steel Smithing perk?

[koomah]

If so then it doubles the effectiveness of upgraded steel items.

[koomah]

At that level I don't think you'd be able to get the Dwarven Smithing perk. If you get the Dwarven Smithing perk and upgrade it then your Dwarven Armor would provide more defense than Steel Plate.

[June raven]

Originally posted by Drowning Fish:

Do you have Steel Smithing perk?

Originally posted by Drowning Fish:

If so then it doubles the effectiveness of upgraded steel items.

yes i have the first perk steel smithing .. that affected the steel plate armor rating ? !
but for improving steel plate i need the advanced armor perk right ?

[June raven]

Originally posted by Drowning Fish:

At that level I don't think you'd be able to get the Dwarven Smithing perk. If you get the Dwarven Smithing perk and upgrade it then your Dwarven Armor would provide more defense than Steel Plate.

iam level 30 smithing and i did get the dwarven smithing perk but i cant go above superior .. need level 40 smithing to go above superior for dwarven (according to wikia)

[koomah]

Oh, my bad. I misread Steel Armor as Steel Plate. So yes Steel Smithing affects Steel armor but not Steel Plate. Hope that cleared up any confusion.

[Vrakos Anthrakir]

Originally posted by Drowning Fish:

At that level I don't think you'd be able to get the Dwarven Smithing perk. If you get the Dwarven Smithing perk and upgrade it then your Dwarven Armor would provide more defense than Steel Plate.

you only need 30 smithing skill to get the dwarven smithing perk

[June raven]

Originally posted by Drowning Fish:

Oh, my bad. I misread Steel Armor as Steel Plate. So yes Steel Smithing affects Steel armor but not Steel Plate. Hope that cleared up any confusion.

iam still confused cuz my fine steel plate (full set) is equal to my superior dwarven (full set)

[koomah]

Are you sure you are wearing Dwarven and not Elven? I get those two mixed up sometimes.

[June raven]

Originally posted by Drowning Fish:

Are you sure you are wearing Dwarven and not Elven? I get those two mixed up sometimes.

lol no way :p iam sure its dwarven

[koomah]

Actually, I just found out that the armor rating they display on the wiki is incorrect.

[koomah]

Dwarven armor has 78 base armor rating I believe and Steel Plate has 87.

[June raven]

Originally posted by Drowning Fish:

Dwarven armor has 78 base armor rating I believe and Steel Plate has 87.

if thats true then it makes sense
ill search in some other websites