Blades Quest bugged

[Phytom]

Hello. So i was walking thru Skyrim and cleared some Manor, but then it suddenly came a quest that i should listen to the Thalmor and then Talk to Delphine. I didnt even Started the Main Quest yet, and Delphine is down that Room that only oppens when you do the Blades Quest, so i think i shouldnt be able to go in this Manor and bugged the Questline out. Now i know i can reset certain quests with setstage (QUEST ID) (QUEST STAGE) but how can i reset a whole Questline?

[pedantic_roc]

Personally I'd reload a save from before clearing that " manor ". It wasn't the Thalmor Embassy was it?

[Phytom]

Originally posted by pedantic_roc:

Personally I'd reload a save from before clearing that " manor ". It wasn't the Thalmor Embassy was it?

It was ._. But i can't reload because i was like lvl 8 or something back there, now im lvl 29^^ Would be really ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ annoying.

[Docsprock]

How were you able to 'clear' it? You cannot get inside without cheats.

[pedantic_roc]

Originally posted by H' HoMeR@QUADF:

Originally posted by pedantic_roc:

Personally I'd reload a save from before clearing that " manor ". It wasn't the Thalmor Embassy was it?

It was ._. But i can't reload because i was like lvl 8 or something back there, now im lvl 29^^ Would be really ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ annoying.

Just a tip: Get used to the idea of saving manually. My recently started toon is level 18 and I have 117 save points to fall back on. You know it makes sense :-)

[Phytom]

Originally posted by Docsprock:

How were you able to 'clear' it? You cannot get inside without cheats.

Cheats? I just jumped over the Wall with my horse.

[Phytom]

Originally posted by pedantic_roc:

Originally posted by H' HoMeR@QUADF:

It was ._. But i can't reload because i was like lvl 8 or something back there, now im lvl 29^^ Would be really ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ annoying.

Just a tip: Get used to the idea of saving manually. My recently started toon is level 18 and I have 117 save points to fall back on. You know it makes sense :-)

I save every 5 minutes or so.^^ I have the Save, thats not the problem, but i don't wanna go back 11 lvl's and god knows how much playtime and quests etc. just for this, you know what i mean? Just wanted to know if someone knows the cmd for the console to set back a whole questline. But if that is not possible, i can just play on, i mean i know the Story, just would be cool for the feelz.. ( ￣▽￣)

[pedantic_roc]

Resetting a Quest line is one thing. Figuring out which linked conditions and objectives also need altering just isn't worth the hassle. It's fine with radiant Quests because, essentially, they're stand alone whereas " that " Quest ( area ) not only has linked Globals but also has triggers that may or may not have been, um..., triggered etc.. You can easily corrupt your save if you're not thorough or careful. Imho you already gave yourself the best advice - just play on, lol, and enjoy your current misadventure. :D

[gnewna]

Originally posted by H' HoMeR@QUADF:

Originally posted by Docsprock:

How were you able to 'clear' it? You cannot get inside without cheats.

Cheats? I just jumped over the Wall with my horse.

You can't access the building without using the 'unlock' console command.

[Phytom]

Originally posted by gnewna:

Originally posted by H' HoMeR@QUADF:

Cheats? I just jumped over the Wall with my horse.

You can't access the building without using the 'unlock' console command.

Well you can because i did it.. Haha idk what the f. your problem is, i fkn jumped over the wall with my horse, i don't care if u believe me or not m8.

[mpd1958]

Originally posted by H' HoMeR@QUADF:

Originally posted by gnewna:

You can't access the building without using the 'unlock' console command.

Well you can because i did it.. Haha idk what the f. your problem is, i fkn jumped over the wall with my horse, i don't care if u believe me or not m8.

I understand, because I did that myself when I played this game the first time. You entered the embasey grounds, but did you actually get into the embasey? I was never able to get into the building itself.

[gnewna]

Well, perhaps you have some mod editing it because AFAIK the wall can't be jumped over, either (invisible barrier, IIRC - I tested it with one of my characters pretty recently), and the embassy building is 100% definitely questlocked in a vanilla game and most modded games (i.e. you can't access/enter it without using the 'unlock' command).

I don't care if you used cheat codes to circumvent the game's protections against messing up the main quest in this way, I'm just saying that either you're not being entirely truthful, or something's up in your game.

I know of at least one mod that probably changes this (Alt Start: Live Another Life's Thalmor Agent start has you start inside and I *think* you can go back until some point in the MQ, possibly after fighting the first dragon.) If you have a mod that changes that then probably there's nothing to worry about. If you don't, and you definitely didn't use the console to get in, then something is screwy in your game.

[Phytom]

Originally posted by gnewna:

Well, perhaps you have some mod editing it because AFAIK the wall can't be jumped over, either (invisible barrier, IIRC - I tested it with one of my characters pretty recently), and the embassy building is 100% definitely questlocked in a vanilla game and most modded games (i.e. you can't access/enter it without using the 'unlock' command).

I don't care if you used cheat codes to circumvent the game's protections against messing up the main quest in this way, I'm just saying that either you're not being entirely truthful, or something's up in your game.

I know of at least one mod that probably changes this (Alt Start: Live Another Life's Thalmor Agent start has you start inside and I *think* you can go back until some point in the MQ, possibly after fighting the first dragon.) If you have a mod that changes that then probably there's nothing to worry about. If you don't, and you definitely didn't use the console to get in, then something is screwy in your game.

Well i have 200 Mod's installed if you couldn't jump over it it is definetly a Mod, because you would be stupid if i unlock a door that needs a key with commands, because that will definetly screw up your game.

[gnewna]

Just tested in a vanilla game and it looks like I'd mis-remembered the invisible wall (unless increasing the jumpheight variable somehow disabled it, but that seems unlikely), however I'm still not convinced it's jumpable on a (vanilla)horse, as I stole one just to test it and the wall is higher than a horse can jump relative to the rocks and so on all the way around. As I said, I was going from memory, not claiming that was definitely correct.

Either way, the building is 100% definitely questlocked both before and after Diplomatic Immunity (i.e. the quest when you're meant to go in there), which is why they moved the Unusual Gem that's in the Embassy into Reeking Cave because people kept missing it in the Embassy and not being able to get back in/not being able to get it because they weren't doing the MQ. Just checked in the same pure vanilla game and yep, locked.

And, well, you evidently did access a building that (in a vanilla game, at least) is questlocked and it did mess up your MQ, so...

(Setting jumpheight to a silly amount and jumping back and forth over the wall was fun, though.)

[GLsimtam]

You don't reset quests with setstage. There are console commands resetquest and stopquest if you are curious.