does skyrim story suck?

[Youtube: BoyDilly]

My brother says it does. He has played Oblivion, Morrowind, Witcher 3, GTA SA, GTA IV and a bit of GTA V. He said every single one of those games had better stories than Skyrim. I can not comment since I have played through skyrim and enjoyed it alot but I haven't played through other open world story games.

[Rez Elwin]

Skyrim's story isn't terrible but they could have done a better job with it. I played through most of those games, aside from Gta 4 and never completed the story for SA, and I agree with your friend, those games have better stories. Besides a few points I think Oblivion is an objectively better game than Skyrim.

The main point of the story is Alduin, but as an enemy he never really seems that threatening to me, he is supposed to be some god-like being capable of destroying the world? Well how come the first time I beat him i was like level 20? Even in the final fight you don't have to do anything, the 3 heros can clear the fog without you and slay alduin without you lifting a finger, which makes zero sense since they couldn't beat him in the past. Dragons themselves are not much of a threat either, a dragon that decides to land in any city or god forbid the mages college gets destroyed in seconds by the guards.

The blades are terrible too because you NEED them yet they do literally nothing to help you at all, there is zero reason to follow them at all especially since YOU are supposed to be in charge. The Dragonborn rescues Esbern, infiltrates the Thalmor, opens the temple, literally everything for them, yet they do nothing for you in return.

The story is also really short, Escape Helgan, kill the first dragon, go talk to the greybeards, get the horn, talk to Delphine, kill another dragon, infiltrate the thalmor, find Esbern. open the temple, get dragonrend, fight alduin, negotiate a treaty, trap Odahviing, fly to Skuldafn, go to Sovngarde, kill Alduin and your done. This is like 3 hours or something at best.

There are of course mods that address some of these issues but I think Bethesda needs to stop relying on modders to fix there game and make it actually good. Fallout 4 is the same, modders had tot step in to make it decent.

[alexander_dougherty]

Originally posted by BoyDilly:

My brother says it does. He has played Oblivion, Morrowind, Witcher 3, GTA SA, GTA IV and a bit of GTA V. He said every single one of those games had better stories than Skyrim. I can not comment since I have played through skyrim and enjoyed it alot but I haven't played through other open world story games.

Oblivion and Morrowind had better stories, so compared to them Skyrims stories (three main stories and four Guild stories) do suck.
You can't compare GTAs stories to Skyrim's or Oblivion's since they are different genres, it's like comparing Lord of the Rings to Ocean's Eleven.
I can't comment of Witcher though, I've never played them but they are comparable, probably much better though, given my comments about Morrowind and Oblivion.

[R2-D2]

Still a better ending than LOST or GoT (tv version).

[Siddha]

Originally posted by BoyDilly:

My brother says it does. He has played Oblivion, Morrowind, Witcher 3, GTA SA, GTA IV and a bit of GTA V. He said every single one of those games had better stories than Skyrim. I can not comment since I have played through skyrim and enjoyed it alot but I haven't played through other open world story games.

All the games you list are on Steam; and Skyrim has more players than all of them combined; a lot more, as in thousands; 7 years after release.... so it's probably a good game.

In my opinion what keeps people coming back and playing is the world and the lore. The world and the lore provide a rich tapestry background on which players can write their own stories.

[Lady Aeleanor]

I completely disagree - I think the storyline is excellent. Each time I play, I find out details that I missed before. I've played Oblivion, Morrowind, Daggerfall....and in my opinion, none of their plots can even get close to Skyrim's. Factor in the DLC and there's even more story. Sure, there are flaws and a few boring side plots. Doesn't mean the whole plotline sucks.

Most games, I couldn't care less about the endings. It's the journey that matters to me. But Skyrim's ending satisfies me completely, and isn't so hard to do that it takes you reloading again and again because it's so ridiculously difficult. Same with Dawnguard and Dragonborn DLC.

[Rez Elwin]

Originally posted by Siddha:

Originally posted by BoyDilly:

My brother says it does. He has played Oblivion, Morrowind, Witcher 3, GTA SA, GTA IV and a bit of GTA V. He said every single one of those games had better stories than Skyrim. I can not comment since I have played through skyrim and enjoyed it alot but I haven't played through other open world story games.

All the games you list are on Steam; and Skyrim has more players than all of them combined; a lot more, as in thousands; 7 years after release.... so it's probably a good game.

In my opinion what keeps people coming back and playing is the world and the lore. The world and the lore provide a rich tapestry background on which players can write their own stories.

Mods, that's why it has more daily players and people keep coming back, I guarantee you if Skyrim didn't have the largest modding community behind it there would be a lot less people playing it.

[Taiwan Number One]

I would argue it's a mediocre story. As Rez Elwin has already said, Alduin is a lame antagonist that, despite being the World-Eater, does nothing more then destroy a fort, and maybe kill a few farmers here and there. Say what one will about Mehrunes Dagon and Mankar Cameron in Oblivion, but they destroyed a major city in the heart of the Empire, assassinated the Emperor and his three legitimate sons, and were opening portals all over Tamriel.

[papajack_papajohn]

It all depends on how you look at it. The story line is not bad for an unmodded Skyrim LE, but there are mods that not only extend the story line, but change it if you want to. I did.

[just.nuke.em]

I like this comparison. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=601689796

Originally posted by The Be-Mulleted One:

I would argue it's a mediocre story. As Rez Elwin has already said, Alduin is a lame antagonist that, despite being the World-Eater, does nothing more then destroy a fort, and maybe kill a few farmers here and there. Say what one will about Mehrunes Dagon and Mankar Cameron in Oblivion, but they destroyed a major city in the heart of the Empire, assassinated the Emperor and his three legitimate sons, and were opening portals all over Tamriel.

I'd have to agree, I like the Oblivion main story way better. I'm replaying it now, and I still like it (maybe that is nostalgia talking...). Also, Shivering Isles is by far one of my top favorite stories in all of gaming.

[Rez Elwin]

Originally posted by Coyote:

Originally posted by Rez Elwin:

The blades are terrible too because you NEED them yet they do literally nothing to help you at all, there is zero reason to follow them at all especially since YOU are supposed to be in charge. The Dragonborn rescues Esbern, infiltrates the Thalmor, opens the temple, literally everything for them, yet they do nothing for you in return.

What game doesn’t do this these days? COD’s campaign is all the characters yelling at you to do tasks and offer zero support. “MASON!!! Grab that hammer next to woods!” Like tell woods to pick that ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ thing up. He’s right next to it and giving us support fire like it’s Ray Charles firing that assault rifle as the enemy A.I are solely locked on me from cover to following me through walls. 🤣🤣🤣

Reason why every hero is a hero in games is because everyone else is completely inept to do anything:

Quest Giver: I need to get into my house, but my keys are in my pocket. Could you unlock the door for me?

Objective: Open Jon’s door!
Objective complete.

While I don't play CoD aren't you always pretty much a grunt? You are supposed to follow the chain of command, a higher rank officer gives you a command and you follow it. Here though you are the highest "rank" yet they are telling you what to do. Thing is they aren't inept until you show up, Delhine found the dragonstone, and the horn and even knows how to get into the embassy but once you start doing things there usefulness is gone.

It shouldn't matter how many games follow the pattern, it's still bad.

Originally posted by papajack_papajohn:

It all depends on how you look at it. The story line is not bad for an unmodded Skyrim LE, but there are mods that not only extend the story line, but change it if you want to. I did.

As I said before "Bethesda needs to stop relying on modders to fix there game and make it actually good" Mods are not a solution to the problem, Bethesda has become the problem. They will never say this but they are completely reliant on modders to fix their games, it is the exact reason why they refuse to retire their 2 decade old engine, people already know how to mod it, and it is easy to mod, so when Starfield gets released as the buggy mess we all know it is going to be, Bethesda is going to expect the modders to create the “Starfield Unofficial Patch.”

[alexander_dougherty]

Originally posted by Lady Aeleanor:

I completely disagree - I think the storyline is excellent. Each time I play, I find out details that I missed before. I've played Oblivion, Morrowind, Daggerfall....and in my opinion, none of their plots can even get close to Skyrim's. Factor in the DLC and there's even more story. Sure, there are flaws and a few boring side plots. Doesn't mean the whole plotline sucks.

Most games, I couldn't care less about the endings. It's the journey that matters to me. But Skyrim's ending satisfies me completely, and isn't so hard to do that it takes you reloading again and again because it's so ridiculously difficult. Same with Dawnguard and Dragonborn DLC.

While I disagree, it would be a boring world if we all agreed on everything.

[AoFA | FightDrug *-* [GER]]

the story isnt bad but it isnt the best too thats true... but skyrim is more then the story much more :) dungons with the right mods you need a torch :o or camping with the right mods too xD and the good old smithing and drinking and homesitting