Lydia is dead

[Rupty.]

Cultists came and started to fight me.As brave as Lydia is she stepped in and gave her life for mine.
Am I able to revive her?

[Rez Elwin]

Reload a save. Next time be more careful because unless a mod changed it you actually killed her, she can't be killed by anyone but the player, Lydia has "protected" status.

[Master Talon]

Originally posted by Rez Elwin:

Reload a save. Next time be more careful because unless a mod changed it you actually killed her, she can't be killed by anyone but the player, Lydia has "protected" status.

Actually she can be killed by other NPCs. It's happen to me a few times and no it is not a glitch, hint "I will risk my life for you" she is your housecarl she will die for you

[Rez Elwin]

Originally posted by Master Talon:

Originally posted by Rez Elwin:

Reload a save. Next time be more careful because unless a mod changed it you actually killed her, she can't be killed by anyone but the player, Lydia has "protected" status.

actually she can be killed by other NPCs

Interesting, so I guess that means any form of friendly fire then? To be honest I don't remember a single time another follower or npc hit a "downed" follower. I have had friendly fire happen before, usually when magic is involved, but not when someone is down.

[alexander_dougherty]

Originally posted by Rupty.:

Cultists came and started to fight me.As brave as Lydia is she stepped in and gave her life for mine.
Am I able to revive her?

Do not resurrect NPCs, those are dangerous commands to use.

[Master Talon]

Originally posted by Rez Elwin:

Originally posted by Master Talon:

actually she can be killed by other NPCs. It's happen to me a few times

Interesting, so I guess that means any form of friendly fire then? To be honest I don't remember a single time another follower or npc hit a "downed" follower. I have had friendly fire happen before, usually when magic is involved, but not when someone is down.

yes she can still die in a fight even if you aren't attacking her

[RyanBurnsRed]

Originally posted by Rez Elwin:

Reload a save. Next time be more careful because unless a mod changed it you actually killed her, she can't be killed by anyone but the player, Lydia has "protected" status.

She's really tough so I can understand why you'd think that. I'm playing on Legendary and in the early levels she's able to take multiple hits that would one shot me, but you can't have her do all the work.

Originally posted by Rupty.:

Cultists came and started to fight me.As brave as Lydia is she stepped in and gave her life for mine.
Am I able to revive her?

Apart from reloading a save I have used resurrect 1 command since forever and have not had any problems. If you want to stay "legit" you'll just have to reload a save.

[John]

Originally posted by Rez Elwin:

Reload a save. Next time be more careful because unless a mod changed it you actually killed her, she can't be killed by anyone but the player, Lydia has "protected" status.

If they get so much damage they simply get killed instead of going in a kneeling position (which transfers agro to another target) they will die, have had it happen a few times.

For OP, as stated above, the only 2 ways are these
1- reload older save
2- use resurrect 1 on the corpse and say, i accept the risk

Some info, higher difficulties greatly increase follower survivability. Also upgrade their gear, it helps :)

[Altbert]

Originally posted by Rupty.:

Cultists came and started to fight me.As brave as Lydia is she stepped in and gave her life for mine.
Am I able to revive her?

Lydia is marked as protected, so this should not have happened, or you may have accidently hit her! No friendly hits here! She is marked protected throughout the game, and can only be killed by the player. It would be save to resurrect her, but it takes more than just the "resurrect" or "recycleactor" console command. If only using one of these commands will remove her from the game after 12 ingame days, and she will be running around in the "death cell" alive and kicking!

[Rupty.]

Originally posted by Altbert:

Originally posted by Rupty.:

Cultists came and started to fight me.As brave as Lydia is she stepped in and gave her life for mine.
Am I able to revive her?

Lydia is marked as protected, so this should not have happened, or you may have accidently hit her! No friendly hits here! She is marked protected throughout the game, and can only be killed by the player. It would be save to resurrect her, but it takes more than just the "resurrect" or "recycleactor" console command. If only using one of these commands will remove her from the game after 12 ingame days, and she will be running around in the "death cell" alive and kicking!

I used fire spells so I guess I could have hit her. I don't want to use commands and I already played on and accepted her death. There are more Follower that are even stronger, aren't there?

[Master Talon]

Originally posted by Rupty.:

Originally posted by Altbert:

Lydia is marked as protected, so this should not have happened, or you may have accidently hit her! No friendly hits here! She is marked protected throughout the game, and can only be killed by the player. It would be save to resurrect her, but it takes more than just the "resurrect" or "recycleactor" console command. If only using one of these commands will remove her from the game after 12 ingame days, and she will be running around in the "death cell" alive and kicking!

I used fire spells so I guess I could have hit her. I don't want to use commands and I already played on and accepted her death. There are more Follower that are even stronger, aren't there?

there is Serana is a good one and so is Jenessa (she is in the Hunting lounge in whiterun)

[John]

Originally posted by Altbert:

Originally posted by Rupty.:

Cultists came and started to fight me.As brave as Lydia is she stepped in and gave her life for mine.
Am I able to revive her?

Lydia is marked as protected, so this should not have happened, or you may have accidently hit her! No friendly hits here! She is marked protected throughout the game, and can only be killed by the player. It would be save to resurrect her, but it takes more than just the "resurrect" or "recycleactor" console command. If only using one of these commands will remove her from the game after 12 ingame days, and she will be running around in the "death cell" alive and kicking!

It seems they get the protected status when they are kneeling on the ground, but if they get enough damage to bypass that they die. I've seen it happen dosens of times in my level 1 playthroughs and my earlier times on lower difficulties.

[bucephalus]

Damage over Time (DoT) effects can also bypass the protection. I learned this the hard way when I removed the 'essential' and 'invulnerable' statuses from all non-ghost NPCs, as taking Brynjolf into a high-level Falmer den got him killed in seconds after one of them applied the ridiculously strong poison they tend to use.

The way it seems to work is that the first fatal DoT tick triggers the 'protected' status, thus the rest are not checked against and will kill the afflicted NPC or follower if not removed/out-healed. Resistances *do* apply, which is why some followers/NPCs will survive situations where others do not.

Gearing out your followers can help a lot, especially if you enchant for resistances and/or health, though at high(er) levels some opponents may well just be too strong as the player often has far more HP than any follower or NPC can.

[Altbert]

You can learn something new every day, can't you! Never heard of the "Damage over Time" effect in concern with the protected status of an NPC. Removing the protected and invulnerable status of NPCs like Brynjolf doesn't make them protected. So, yes he will die, but not because he would be protected and suffering from DoT!

In the vanilla game essential NPCs can't die, and protected NPCs can only die when killed by the player. Unless ... you're using mods or console commands!

DoT is only affected by spells and enchantments. It simply means damage is increased over time during the time a spell or enchantment is in effect, most of the time just a few seconds. The effect will stop once an NPC is in bleedout state. At that point no further damage will be done, it will only take longer for that NPC to get out of bleedout state.

If anyone has any SOLID info on this, I would be pleased to know!

[Master Talon]

Serana can't die she never has for me but Lydia and Sven have several times

[Master Talon]

Originally posted by Altbert:

Originally posted by Rupty.:

Cultists came and started to fight me.As brave as Lydia is she stepped in and gave her life for mine.
Am I able to revive her?

Lydia is marked as protected, so this should not have happened, or you may have accidently hit her! No friendly hits here! She is marked protected throughout the game, and can only be killed by the player. It would be save to resurrect her, but it takes more than just the "resurrect" or "recycleactor" console command. If only using one of these commands will remove her from the game after 12 ingame days, and she will be running around in the "death cell" alive and kicking!

no not true Lydia can still die I've seen Druagr kill her a few times while I was fighting far away from her and no I did not hit her once because I was using a sword