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Vi-El Nov 18, 2018 @ 4:46pm
Skyrim Modding - Some NPCs only have hands, feet and heads
I recently got a new PC and had to redownloaded some mods. I got a small list of them down and now began a new playthrough and all of the sudden some NPCs are missing their overall bodyparts and only kept feet, hands and heads. I however suspect that the feet and hands are still there due to Immerisve armors as when I disabled it to test, they also disapeared.

The NPCs I saw thus far are "Irileth" missing literally everything apart from the aforementioned. And a small side NPC added by the "Holds" mod.

This is my loadorder. If anyone knows what this is about, please tell me cause I dont know anymore.

0 0 Skyrim.esm
1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Dragonborn.esm
3 3 HearthFires.esm
4 4 Dawnguard.esm
5 5 ApachiiHair.esm
6 6 EFFCore.esm
7 7 SkyUI.esp
8 8 iHUD.esp
9 9 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
10 a NK_Heterochromia Complete.esp
11 b Hunterborn.esp
12 c Jaggarsfeld.esp
13 d Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
14 e Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
15 f Peacekeeper Armour.esp
16 10 TheCoenaculiUNP.esp
17 11 Osare GothicLolita.esp
18 12 Convenient Horses.esp
19 13 Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp
20 14 HarvestOverhaul.esp
21 15 EFFDialogue.esp
22 16 UIExtensions.esp
23 17 Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp
24 18 Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp
25 19 Immersive Weapons.esp
26 1a Holds.esp
27 1b RaceMenu.esp
28 1c RaceMenuPlugin.esp
29 1d Ebonvale.esp
30 1e TradeBarter.esp
31 1f Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
32 20 TouringCarriages.esp
33 21 Recorder Follower Base.esp
34 22 Poet.esp
35 23 Missives.esp
36 24 FNIS.esp
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Falro the Great Nov 18, 2018 @ 4:54pm 
Just to make sure, did you remove any mods after you started a new game? Usually this happens because the game can't find the outfit the NPC was wearing.
Vi-El Nov 18, 2018 @ 4:57pm 
Did not remove any. I did a small testrun of a vanilla game as I wanted to see how it runs on the new PC and then began adding mods, testing them on the vanilla game. After I added all the mods I then went on to start a new game and that is where I am right now, just after heading into whiterun and talking to the Jarl, first time.

This is when I saw the missing bodies and since then I did remove I think one mod only however testing it myself, did not seem to change anything to the actual problem.

The mod in question was "Enhanced character edit".
Uncle64 Nov 18, 2018 @ 5:15pm 
Add Usleep and run LOOT on that loadorder.

You also have UNP mods installed, do you know what type of body you use?
Vi-El Nov 18, 2018 @ 5:20pm 
Actually Id like to keep Usleep out of the modlist for this time if possible. If you say it aint, well then thats a different issue.

I do have UNP BASE Main body V1dot2 installed. No idea why it doesnt show up in the loadorder
Vi-El Nov 18, 2018 @ 6:55pm 
Update:
- Added Usleep (No change)
- Switched from UNP to CBBE and made a new game for testing (Bug still occurs)
- After disabling a few mods it turns out Irileth wears no armor at all and neither does the random NPC

The mods that actually make their bodies appear again have nothing in common however. Plus there seems to be some overall issue with the compatibility of all the mods present. So in order to save us all the time and headache ima just write down all the mods I installed without the loadorder that doesnt seem to include some of the mods weirdly enough.

SkyUI
iHud
Conveniet Horses
Complete Crafting Overhaul
Harvest Overhaul
Immersive Weapons
EFF
Skyrim Immersive Creatures
Experience
Immersive Creatures (Experience Patch)
Holds
Truly Absorb Dragon Souls
Missives
Poet (Follower)
Recorder (Follower)
Relationship Dialogue Overhaul
Touring Carriages
Trade and Barter
Ebonvale
Enhanced Character Edit
Osare Gothic Lolita
RaceMenu
FNIS Behavior
Alternate Start
RealVision ENB
Peacekeeper Armour
Peacekeeper Armour (First Person Patch)
ApachiiSkyHair
Heterochromia
Hunterborn
Jaggarsfeld
A. NSM - FULL PACK_v.5.3.0_2K - For Original Skyrim Game
USLEEP
Immersive Armors
CBBE
BodySlide and Outfit Studio

Mind you this isnt my loadorder. This is only the mods I use. The loadorder is handled by LOOT so everything should be ok in that case.
cfs111 Nov 19, 2018 @ 5:59am 
What mod manager do you use?
Vi-El Nov 19, 2018 @ 12:57pm 
Originally posted by cfs111:
What mod manager do you use?
The Modorganizer
Have been using it before as well on my old pc with no issues apart from crashes. Likely due to the pc though lol
Last edited by Vi-El; Nov 19, 2018 @ 12:57pm
Vi-El Nov 19, 2018 @ 1:19pm 
Thinking about it, I have been installing the mods onto modorganizer manually. Could that be it?

The program wont let me login to Nexus and wont let me download directly. And the second version of it just flat out tells me the mod I am trying to add cant be downloaded
Uncle64 Nov 19, 2018 @ 1:34pm 
If you did use MO did you also sort your left side?
Since it is important, and your issue indicates that you have one conflict there.
Last edited by Uncle64; Nov 19, 2018 @ 1:34pm
Vi-El Nov 19, 2018 @ 1:36pm 
Originally posted by Uncle64SwE:
If you did use MO did you also sort your left side?
Since it is important, and your issue indicates that you have one conflict there.
You mean the main modlist? Like where you enable and disable them correct?
That could be however does it truly make a difference when the loadorder is ok?
Ilja Nov 19, 2018 @ 1:37pm 
Subscribed.

Originally posted by Black Puppet:
Thinking about it, I have been installing the mods onto modorganizer manually. Could that be it?

The program wont let me login to Nexus and wont let me download directly. And the second version of it just flat out tells me the mod I am trying to add cant be downloaded

I am always installing mods manually to MO. That isn't the issue.

You might be using the old version of MO. Nexus login was changed for EU GDRP. Mod Organizer 2 and Mod Organizer Legacy (which is the updated version of old MO 1.x) are updated to new login.
Ilja Nov 19, 2018 @ 1:38pm 
Originally posted by Black Puppet:
Originally posted by Uncle64SwE:
If you did use MO did you also sort your left side?
Since it is important, and your issue indicates that you have one conflict there.
You mean the main modlist? Like where you enable and disable them correct?
That could be however does it truly make a difference when the loadorder is ok?

Yes, it does. Left panel handles resource priorities. This is the order for meshes, textures, scripts, animation files (etc.) resources. It needs to be sorted as well for MO. Load order only manages records, not resources.

It is the strenght of MO. However, also the tedious part.
Last edited by Ilja; Nov 19, 2018 @ 1:38pm
Vi-El Nov 19, 2018 @ 1:41pm 
How do I put it, this then is the actual priority based order. Granted, looking at CBBE this could easily be switched out with UNP again as this doesnt seem to be the issue. Just that I have no idea what is the more important mod before the next.

Originally posted by Black Puppet:
Update:
- Added Usleep (No change)
- Switched from UNP to CBBE and made a new game for testing (Bug still occurs)
- After disabling a few mods it turns out Irileth wears no armor at all and neither does the random NPC

The mods that actually make their bodies appear again have nothing in common however. Plus there seems to be some overall issue with the compatibility of all the mods present. So in order to save us all the time and headache ima just write down all the mods I installed without the loadorder that doesnt seem to include some of the mods weirdly enough.

SkyUI
iHud
Conveniet Horses
Complete Crafting Overhaul
Harvest Overhaul
Immersive Weapons
EFF
Skyrim Immersive Creatures
Experience
Immersive Creatures (Experience Patch)
Holds
Truly Absorb Dragon Souls
Missives
Poet (Follower)
Recorder (Follower)
Relationship Dialogue Overhaul
Touring Carriages
Trade and Barter
Ebonvale
Enhanced Character Edit
Osare Gothic Lolita
RaceMenu
FNIS Behavior
Alternate Start
RealVision ENB
Peacekeeper Armour
Peacekeeper Armour (First Person Patch)
ApachiiSkyHair
Heterochromia
Hunterborn
Jaggarsfeld
A. NSM - FULL PACK_v.5.3.0_2K - For Original Skyrim Game
USLEEP
Immersive Armors
CBBE
BodySlide and Outfit Studio

Mind you this isnt my loadorder. This is only the mods I use. The loadorder is handled by LOOT so everything should be ok in that case.
Uncle64 Nov 19, 2018 @ 1:42pm 
As Ilja did say.
It is one reason we ask what modding tool people have used.


Last edited by Uncle64; Nov 19, 2018 @ 1:43pm
Ilja Nov 19, 2018 @ 1:43pm 
If so, then that is messed up. Sort the left panle to match with (main plugin files) in right hand panel. See if that solves the issue.

USLEEP alone should be loading right below official DLC files.
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