Invisibility spell reveals me?

[Rocket Drifter]

Maybe it's a mechanic that I'm not aware of, but whenever I have the invisibility effect active from having cast it as a spell, I become extremely visible to all npcs. Situations where I can normaly sneak by without a problem are completely botched if I have the spell up. If I'm within line of sight at all, I'm instantly noticed except at extreme distance.

What the hell is going on?

[Eternie]

Unless you have the perk quiet casting all spell casting is like throwing a fireball everyone hears it and knows exactly where you are.

[Dexter]

Originally posted by Eternie:

Unless you have the perk quiet casting all spell casting is like throwing a fireball everyone hears it and knows exactly where you are.

This.

It always bothered me that You can shoot arrow someone in the eye, hide in corner and repeat that but using Invisibility to disappear, like it should work, it doesn't work. If they already detected You they will know exatcly where You are with full invisibility.
Bethesda AI at its best.

[Rocket Drifter]

That's not what I mean, I know how spells make sound. I'm well aware. Sneaking is my focus, so I make sure to cast it while just out of earshot, then quickly move in.

[Vrakos Anthrakir]

do you have any mods?

[Eternie]

When I use to sneak up on people I would use both muffle and invisiblity spells Muffle first obviously ... or it would cancel the invisiblity spell. Then sneaking as well to be able to steal everything worthwhile.

[Mr. Monday]

What's your sneak skill at?

[Altbert]

When you sneak and/or are invisible, enermies may always detect you by the sounds you make when using a weapon or casting a spell. They immediately know your location. This can have a strange effect when you have sneak at the highest level and the perk Shadow Warrior unlocked, as enemies will run straight towards you, bump onto you and walk by. It would be possible to create a weapon or spell with an explosion effect that uses the Throw Voice. Also you can make arrows silent (don't know about weapons or spells). I have been experimenting with arrows that are silent and have the Throw Voice explosion on impact, and used the arrows in Dustman's Cairn. Still a little disappointed about the effects, but I'll keep experimenting.

[Rocket Drifter]

I'm not using any mods. I always use muffle before doing any kind of stealth, including casting invisibility. My sneak skill is 82 and I've invested 3 ranks into the first perk. And Altbert, as I've said before I'm already aware of how to cast spells out of earshot. I remain undetected until I enter line of sight, even from a distance in low light.

[Mr. Monday]

Can you post a video then?

[Rocket Drifter]

I'm sure there's just something I'm doing wrong that I've missed somehow. Anyway, I'll get some recording software tomorrow and see if I can find a good demonstration. Might take a few tries though.

[Eternie]

Do you have the Quiet casting Perk? Requirement Level 50 Illusion school

[alexander_dougherty]

Originally posted by Eternie:

Do you have the Quiet casting Perk? Requirement Level 50 Illusion school

OP has avoided answering this one from the start, if they lack Quiet casting, then getting it would solve the problem, if have it then it's something else.

[Eternie]

Originally posted by alexander_dougherty:

Originally posted by Eternie:

Do you have the Quiet casting Perk? Requirement Level 50 Illusion school

OP has avoided answering this one from the start, if they lack Quiet casting, then getting it would solve the problem, if have it then it's something else.

Some things that original posters just don't want to hear I guess. Probably it's all so that they can post a vid to show their issue ... of a failure of Bethesda.

[liosalpha]

Some things help to reduce detection but on the other hand you also have mobs that have a hightend awarness. like falmer or vampires some wild animals. (and i think guards too) while its easy to sneak cast past a draugre or a bandit.

i wonder if you even stay in invisibilety... try going in 3th person and observe if you carakter is still in the effect. I suspect somthing is interacting with the npc's canseling your invis. You can only walk or sneek aything els will make you visible.

[Altbert]

Originally posted by liosalpha:

Some things help to reduce detection but on the other hand you also have mobs that have a hightend awarness. like falmer or vampires some wild animals. (and i think guards too) while its easy to sneak cast past a draugre or a bandit.

i wonder if you even stay in invisibilety... try going in 3th person and observe if you carakter is still in the effect. I suspect somthing is interacting with the npc's canseling your invis. You can only walk or sneek aything els will make you visible.

You are more likely to be detected if you move too close to an enemy, swing a weapon (even if you don't hit someone with it), run into a mobile object or walk on a trap or making noice, including casting a spell without using the Quiet Casting perk.

Invisibility will end if the caster activates an item (including: using levers and buttons, opening doors and containers, grabbing and stealing items), uses a magical effect other than invisibility (including spells, potions and scrolls), or interacts with a character (including attack, pickpocket and dialogue).

Info: Invisibility Effect[en.uesp.net]

As I already mentioned in my earlier post, even if the invisibility effect is permanent (constant effect), the caster would still make noice. A maximized sneak skill would reduce noice, but you would still make noice when using a weapon, casting a spell, etc. and enemies will be aware of your possible location. This has nothing to do with "seeing" you, but knowing from what direction the sounds came from.