Flickering textures (LOD textures not unloading and mixing with everything else) FIX

[Rys]

Hi there, Im not using any textures mods - I only have the official HD textures. And its like after every 10 mins of play some of the textures start flickering really bad and look like they are very low end.

Anyone know why is this happening please? This is really annoying :/

UPDATE 1:

Originally posted by smr1957:

Originally posted by Hawky:

Ok, I will try to do that. Is there any way to have the LOD textures properly unload?

As Arthmoor said, it's a game engine bug - and something only Bethesda can fix by either adopting a new engine, or redesigning this one.

If that is what your problem is (and it does look like it). But, sometimes using less demanding mods may help, which is why I linked those. I used them on my old machine, and they were very good - less demanding, yet better looking.

UPDATE 2:
Finally found a fix

Originally posted by be'thorien:

in your Skyrim.ini (located at "Documents\My Games\Skyrim") deleting these lines under [MapMenu]

uLockedObjectMapLOD=32
uLockedTerrainLOD=32

6 years of searching obscure forums finally found a fix. Me and another that were having such issues tested it for the last few days and haven't had the problem resurface after doing this. Would be nice to know if it doesn't work for everyone.

[alexander_dougherty]

Well Post your load order, and we'll have a look at your mods, see if anything stads out.

[Rys]

Give me a second, thank you :)

Heres the complete mod load order, Im using

Skyrim.esm=1
Update.esm=1
Dawnguard.esm=1
Dragonborn.esm=1
HearthFires.esm=1
Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp=1
Campfire.esm=1
ETaC - RESOURCES.esm=1
Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp=1
Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp=1
Shay viking.esp=1
Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp=1
HighResTexturePack01.esp=1
HighResTexturePack02.esp=1
HighResTexturePack03.esp=1
SkyUI.esp=1
Requiem.esp=1
Requiem - Legendary Bugsmasher Edition.esp=1
Requiem - Restored Rewarding Sounds.esp=1
Requiem - Restored Saving Messages.esp=1
Frostfall.esp=1
Civil War Overhaul.esp=1
Requiem - Civil War Overhaul Patch.esp=1
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp=1
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp=1
Fozars_Dragonborn_-_Requiem_Patch.esp=1
Dr_Bandolier.esp=1
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp=1
Dual Sheath Redux.esp=1
WayshrinesIFT.esp=1
Simple Armed to the Teeth.esp=1
Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp=1
WetandCold.esp=1
WetandCold - Ashes.esp=1
Chesko_WearableLantern.esp=1
Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp=1
COR-FZR.esp=1
COR-CraftingOverhaulReqtified.esp=1
COR-Campfire.esp=1
COR-WetAndCold.esp=1
RiverwoodSmelter.esp=1
WICO - Immersive Character.esp=1
WICO - Immersive People.esp=1
WICO - USLEEP Compatible Patch.esp=1
iNeed.esp=1
Requiem - iNeed.esp=1
Real Feeding V3.esp=1
Vivid Weathers.esp=1
DisableHDREffects_MCM.esp=1
Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp=1
SFO - Dragonborn.esp=1
ETaC - Complete.esp=1
ETaC - Dragon Bridge South.esp=1
Immersive Orc Strongholds.esp=1
Immersive Solstheim.esp=1
Better Cities Solitude.esp=0
Windhelm Exterior Altered.esp=1
Better Windhelm.esp=1
BetterCitiesWhiterun.esp=1
BCWhiterunTrees.esp=1
SDO Full-LOD - Giant Campfires.esp=1
SDO Full-LOD - The Morthal Swamp Complete.esp=1
SDO Full-LOD - Waterfall Effects.esp=1
SDO Full-LOD - Whiterun Trundra Creeks.esp=1
Immersive Horses.esp=1
Immersive Horses - Hearthfire Patch.esp=1
Requiem - Campfire.esp=1
Requiem - Frostfall.esp=1
Requiem - Immersive Armors.esp=1
Requiem - Immersive Horses.esp=1
Requiem for the Indifferent.esp=1
AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp=1
Brevi_MoonlightTales.esp=1

[Alex]

1. Are you using ENB or ENBoost?
2. Have you updated your drivers recently, especially the graphic card?
3. Any other games behaving wierd?
4. What's the deal with "Disable HDR Effects MCM"? Try disabling it.

[alexander_dougherty]

Having just looked at Ilja's load order basics for oldrim, have you considered the unofficial highres patch, this might help.

[Rys]

Originally posted by Alex:

1. Are you using ENB or ENBoost?
2. Have you updated your drivers recently, especially the graphic card?
3. Any other games behaving wierd?
4. What's the deal with "Disable HDR Effects MCM"? Try disabling it.

1. No ENB or any injectors like that
2. Yep, all drivers up to date.
3. No, none.
4. I hate HDR and Bloom effects so I got myself a mod that removes both. The flickering happens with or without it, it has no impact on it.

Originally posted by alexander_dougherty:

Having just looked at Ilja's load order basics for oldrim, have you considered the unofficial highres patch, this might help.

Im using the HD official textures already.

EDIT:

heres a screen of my issue:
https://imgur.com/Tb7gDMA

[alexander_dougherty]

Originally posted by Hawky:

Originally posted by alexander_dougherty:

Having just looked at Ilja's load order basics for oldrim, have you considered the unofficial highres patch, this might help.

Im using the HD official textures already.

EDIT:

heres a screen of my issue:
https://imgur.com/Tb7gDMA

I was talking about the patch for those HD Textures.

Load order template

• Skyrim.esm
  
• Update.esm
  
• Dawnguard.esm
  
• HearthFires.esm
  
• Dragonborn.esm
  
• Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
  
• [Other ESM files]
  
• HighResTexturePack01.esp
  
• HighResTexturePack02.esp
  
• HighResTexturePack03.esp
  
• Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp
  
• Real Shelter.esp
  
• [Other ESP files]
  
• TES5EditMerged.esp
  
• Bashed Patch, 0.esp
  
• [SkyProc ESP files]
  
• DynDOLOD.esp
  
• PNENB.esp
  
• RSPatch.esp

[♥ Barney ♥]

Well, for starters you need to sort that load order. It should look like this and your's doesn't.

Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
Hearthfires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
[Your other ESM files]
HighResTexturePack01.esp
HighResTexturePack02.esp
HighResTexturePack03.esp
Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp
[The rest of your mods]

You don't have the unofficial high resolution patch. Get that or some textures won't display properly - like green writing on markarth banners ;o)

Also, that flickering and low res graphics is mostly encountered when you fast travel, and from what I've read its an engine bug. Solution... don't fast travel.

[Rys]

Ah alright. Ill get that and post results :) thanks for the tip!

EDIT: I have fast travel disabled. I use the SWIFT - Skyrim Wayshrines mod. So for 100% its not fast travel.

[smr1957]

Originally posted by Hawky:

Ah alright. Ill get that and post results :) thanks for the tip!

EDIT: I have fast travel disabled. I use the SWIFT - Skyrim Wayshrines mod. So for 100% its not fast travel.

Mods like that are using the same game mechanic as fast travel - so if fast travel causes a problem, so will they.

[Rys]

Originally posted by smr1957:

Originally posted by Hawky:

Ah alright. Ill get that and post results :) thanks for the tip!

EDIT: I have fast travel disabled. I use the SWIFT - Skyrim Wayshrines mod. So for 100% its not fast travel.

Mods like that are using the same game mechanic as fast travel - so if fast travel causes a problem, so will they.

Err, sorry, I should have mentioned that I never used fast travel - I got the wayshrines installed, /but/ I have not actually used it yet. Im barely out of riverwood and have not discovered more than one wayshrine and cant use them yet. So its been just walking around for me so far :/

[smr1957]

There is another thing to consider - some textures will flicker when viewed from a distance (Whiterun roofs are notorious for this), due to what is called z-fighting, and there is no real fix (which is why DOF and distant fog is used - it is an effort to make it less noticeable). This is a problem in the game itself.

[Rys]

Right so the High Res patch did nothing, the issue remains. I tried verified cache and that didnt help either.

This is what it looks like:
https://imgur.com/HMblpQr

https://imgur.com/HMblpQr

Also, its hard to show in pictures, but what happens is that when I move the camera, thats when the flickering happens. Which means the low res weird image jumps to another texture and vice versa.

[smr1957]

Ah, that! That looks like the game is not properly unloading the LOD. See this response from Arthmoor:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/489830/discussions/0/282992646969966995/?ctp=4#c1621726179578920314

Those blurry textures are the LOD textures.

[smr1957]

Get rid of the Hi-Res packs. Start by trying these, instead:
Bethesda Performance Textures - Armor - Clothes - Weapons - https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/42360

Bethesda Performance Textures - Animals and Creatures - https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/43921

[Rys]

Ok, I will try to do that. Is there any way to have the LOD textures properly unload?