A Little Rant on A Daedric Quest..

[Lilith Vampy]

So there is this quest called "the only cure" where you have to kill yet another random dude fora daedric prince. I was level 53 at the time and going through this dwemer ruin he sent me was a breeze as an expert destruction mage, problem was at the end when i reached the boss room. You see i was sent to kill this fellow mage called Orchendor who was there by himself with his staff shooting ♥♥♥♥ at me, problem is he is has 100% resistence to magic (no one told me that!), from elental magic to the dragonborn shouts, he's immune to soul trapping, paralyses, you name it! So basicalled your badass expert spell won't even do 1 damage to his weak a-ss mage. YOU as a player, you're limited to 85% magic and elemental magic minigation, same thing goes for armor it's all capped so you can't achive god mode while playing skyrim. Orchendor doesn't play by the rules, he gets god mode from the get go! Since i had played quite a bit i had acess to spells like frost attronach and bound sword so i had means to fight him! But Orchendor is a special kid, he'll telepot all over the room everytime he gets hit (also he's immune to physical damage when he's in mid animation to do his teleporting bull-sheet) so my Frost atronach can't really keep up with that going up and down the stair, he's just too slow, another issue is that he has an unique ability no one else in skyrim has besides you, he can constantly heal during battle, so he take a hit run away and start casting the healing spell then he SPAMS ice storm to make you move in SLOW MOTION, oh the joy... How do you kill him as a pure mage? well you fckin don't, what pisses me off the most is that there is no lore behind it, no books no hints no nothing that explains his god mode, when you kill him he has a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ 100 gold +20 magicka regem robes, garbage dagger, trash staff, horse sheet boots and some gold, again nothing that indicates his 100% magic damage minigation. How does this get in the final product, did bathesda developers not see this?? who thought this was good idea? I had to lower the difficulty because i could not deal the needed DPS to kill him, he heals faster than i can damage him, if you're a pure mage and all you have is your picaxe you have to go back through that whole dungeon and go back as a warriior.
Also the quest reward sucks

[Arthur]

Yeah, you can simply use the console command "kill" on him and then BAM, done.

"but what about console players?"

Yeah, whatever, we're on pc, why should we care? Also, I know that there are some people out there (myself included) that avoid using the console whatsoever because it "ruins the experience" or something, but using it to solve annoying problems like this one is fine to me (just as using "tcl" when your character gets stuck somewhere).

And about the lack of lore, well, welcome to Skyrim. Most of the characters and quests in this game are very lackluster in backstory, so, nothing new.

[Arthur]

Also, Spellbreaker only sucks if you're a mage (and maybe a thief). It's actually super useful against dragons and other enemies that shoot magic at you (hags, draugr wights, mages, etc).

[Lilith Vampy]

Yea, used tcl a couple times, just found this quest stupid, and no magic resistance can stop "kill" oh hail the console command

[Wise Joe]

I have not had the displeasure of doing this quest. But, you do have to wonder when you run up against this kind of thing if there was one jerk developer who was like, "no one is going to beat my toon, it will be sooooo fun! hahahahahaha! I will tell all my friends and we will laugh and laugh!" Not having the maturity level to understand that players are turned off by unbeatable bosses, or those that mitigate 100% certain damage types nullifying the ability to play strictly as a magician or melee character.

I sometimes wonder if they realize that turned off players often times do not buy their future product.

[Lilith Vampy]

That was the biggest mid finger to the face on my build i ever got, jokes on the Ebony Warrior. Like the other guy up there said, if you're a console player you're pretty much fked, might as well give up on the quest. If you're still playing the game and want to avoid the quest it's close to the lover's stone near that area where Markarth is located, there will be a kahjit asking you for some expensive stuff to make his summoning ritual

[Arthur]

Originally posted by Lord Cannabis:

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What the actual f♥cking sh♥t. This kind of thing here in the Steam forums?

[AnjnaCZ]

Lord Cannabis I wished you would die slowly and painfully, posted on 9 sites, can't wait <3

But now for the quest. I looked at wiki for a five minutes, there are some tips for you as a mage:
apparently, he doesn't teleport in another room anymore, thus making your frost thrall more usefull if you lead him outside his room. Conjuration is the best bet for a mage build, if you can summon a dremora lord, they are very effective against him. Even if conjuration isn't your thing, I'd suggest using the Sanguine Rose. Or anything you can summon, really.
Another solution may be leading him to those traps in the dungeon, although I personally am too lazy for that, somebody might find it very helpfull.
He can be easily sneak killed, if you have some perks for sneak attacks, you can consider that.

Lastly, for the lore... I mean, he was chosen by peryite to "shepheard" the afflicted. Makes sense a daedra will make his champion immune and stuff. I never even noticed his immunity as I battled him only as a warrior or battle archer. Also may I ask what difficulty were you fighting him with? And what level? I feel he was a bit more OP for you than he should've been, but it can be only because of the mage build. Hopefully somebody having trouble killing him will find this usefull!

[DrNewcenstein]

Skyrim was dumbed down for hack-n-slashing, and is not suited for pure mage builds for this very reason. Orchendor is your typical OP boss with inexplicable special abilities - heal and cast with no animation buildup, like the guy in Illinalta's Deep or at the Ritual Stone who cast Raise Undead as soon as they're hit, even if you one-hit-kill them.

Mages can also sprint in reverse while spamming spells you have to charge up first.

And then there's the various enemies who can slide-step an arrow coming from behind.

Yeah, Skyrim is definitely full of sh*t in a lot of areas.

But they don't want you to be 100% resistant, 100% chameleon, or do 100% damage because that makes you OP. Pfft.

And then there's the totally unexplained Draugr non-Deathlords who can shout. These were low-ranking grunts, not privvy to the same training as Priests and Deathlords, ergo they don't need to be shouting.
They've also got a shorter cooldown than you, according to the CK data.

[Lilith Vampy]

Ayakhiin,
First things first off, fock-off Lord Canabis (reported you twice!)
Second, i'll have to disagree. No he's still teleports all over the place when he takes one or two hits, i play the latest and greatest version of skyrim (hard not to, game hasn't had an update in a milenia), i also have the latest version of the Unofficial Patch installed.
"Conjururation is the best way", right, conjuration is the only way boy. Even if i could find a trap i don't think he'll ever leave his room (he's scripted to teleport to specific spots in that room), EVEN if he does leave the room, he's mage he does't walk up to you like a "worrior" would so no triggering trap, but let's say he does step on the trap a couple times, he's not your usual enemy that heals once when he's about to die, he constantly heal throught the entire fight. I've read that if you poison a nelee weapon with magic wekness poison you can actually do some damage with spells.
I could got back a gra a random iron sword from the afflicted but it would be worse than my daedric bound sword.
For the sneak kill like you mentioned that would not work either in any difficulty past novice, at least not for me, not having any points in sneak and not actually having a dagger. 3x sneak damage won't cut against orchendor lvl 40 with almost 600 hp, he'll just run and heal rense and repeat.
The problem with the part is the way damage minigation works in skyrim it's percentage based instead of values, he could have a pretty good value, but give 100% means he has god mode, i don't care how much daedric prince ♥♥♥♥ you suck, they will never make you invinceble if they're not invicible themselves. I playing on master difficulty level 53 destruction mage, and yea he has that immunity regardless of your level he scales from lvl 10 to 40 from what i read, so as i was 53 he was obviously at his highest. Like you said you won't even noticed if you're playing as a warrior, guy was toilet paper, if i was a warrior i would have one shoted him even on master and get away without even knowing about his oppenis.
You from the future if you're reading this and can't kill Orchendor just do him dirty through the console "kill" :D

[Lilith Vampy]

DrNewcenstein
I hate the vanilla combat, it's not fast or dynamic you can't dodge, when you're hitting with a swird, you pretty much a statue stuck on the ground, and it' always the same game hit get hit heal... i use ultimate combate overhaul. A sword fight hast pary, dodging, thrusting, skyrim is just slash slash slash slash. Also mages suck late game, master spells are useless,your spells don't get any stronger, the enchanting mechacinique is broken
Don't even get me stared this is worth a complete new topic of discussion