I can't upgrade the Saviour's Hide for some reason!

[King Robert Baratheon]

I read online that it is supposedly upgradeable but it never even shows up as an option when I use a workbench to upgrade armor. I have 100 smithing, all the smithing perks, I'm wearing gear thats enchanted with a smithing buff and have some Blacksmith's Elixirs. The only mods I have installed that I think that could be causing this is Cutting Room Floor (it puts in a bunch of deleted content from Skyrim) or Linear Smithing (which just streamlines the smithing skill tree). Has anyone else experience this? I don't plan on using the armor right now but I wanted to upgrade it just for the hell of it.

Edit: here's my load order, just in case.

0 0 Skyrim.esm
1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Dawnguard.esm
3 3 HearthFires.esm
4 4 Dragonborn.esm
5 5 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
6 6 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
7 7 TKChildren.esm
8 8 Cutting Room Floor.esp
9 9 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
10 a Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
11 b Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
12 c No Breathing Sound.esp
13 d AlternativequestendLightsout.esp
14 e noblur.esp
15 f EyesFix.esp
16 10 ContinueGameNoCrash.esp
17 11 LorkhanMoonlightGreatswordPack.esp
18 12 shieldofysgramor.esp
19 13 BuryTheDead.esp
20 14 AcquisitiveSoulGemMultithreaded.esp
21 15 Tenacious Skeletons.esp
22 16 ImperialTarkus.esp
23 17 Sleeved Guards.esp
24 18 SolitudeHeavyArmorGuards.esp
25 19 JiubQuestMarkers.esp
26 1a BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp
27 1b The Paarthurnax Ultimatum.esp
28 1c Lydia-fixedvoice-Hearthfire.esp
29 1d Lydia-fixedvoice.esp
30 1e UnreadBooksGlow.esp
31 1f Purewaters.esp
32 20 HouseOfHorrorsAlternateEnding.esp
33 21 Subtler Nirnroot.esp
34 22 Waterbreathing Breathless Emerge.esp
35 23 RestorationIdleFix.esp
36 24 WetandCold.esp
37 25 TKChildren.esp
38 26 CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp
39 27 imperialrobes.esp
40 28 Blessed Magic.esp
41 29 Immersive Weapons.esp
42 2a AOS.esp
43 2b Friendlier Taverns.esp
44 2c Remove Interior Fog V2 - Full Version.esp
45 2d Timed City Lights Merged.esp
46 2e Imperial Warhammers.esp
47 2f LocalizedGuildJobs.esp
48 30 milklegendary.esp
49 31 GR123 Knights Templar.esp
50 32 Imperial Legate Armor.esp
51 33 Invisibility Eyes Fix.esp
52 34 Remove Smoke and Dust.esp
53 35 RuefulBloodaxe.esp
54 36 Bring Out Your Dead - Legendary Edition.esp
55 37 Immersive Patrols II.esp
56 38 QaxeWinterholdRebuild.esp
57 39 Farm Animals_HF.esp
58 3a Eli's Coffee Mod.esp
59 3b Skyrim Unadoption Mod.esp
60 3c AnIdealSkyforge.esp
61 3d remove whiterun smoke trails.esp
62 3e serana stfu.esp
63 3f No More Standing Too Close to NPCs.esp
64 40 ImperialSoldiersEscortFix.esp
65 41 No Magic Ninja Dodge - No DLC.esp
66 42 Reduced Distance NPC Greetings.esp
67 43 CookingAlchemy.esp
68 44 Elsweyr Fondue+.esp
69 45 JZBai_PrettierCurvedSwords.esp
70 46 EbonyBladeSmithable.esp
71 47 WetandCold - Ashes.esp
72 48 elderrobes.esp
73 49 conjurationhandfx.esp
74 4a GoToBed.esp
75 4b SunDamageEnchantment.esp
76 4c NoUndetectedVampireWerewolfDialogue.esp
77 4d DawnguardArsenal.esp
78 4e SunRune.esp
79 4f BosmerHeaddresses.esp
80 50 sandboxcylinderheight.esp
81 51 craftingspell - DLCversion.esp
82 52 lords mail.esp
83 53 Solaire.esp
84 54 PrayAtShrines.esp
85 55 ForgottenMagic_Redone.esp
86 56 bellhammer.esp
87 57 MasterSpellsShouldBeMasterful.esp
88 58 TwoHandedUnlock.esp
89 59 betterwards.esp
90 5a Mage Outfit Texture Overhaul.esp
91 5b No More Glowing Edges.esp
92 5c College_of_Winterhold_Shop_Fixes.esp
93 5d SkyUI.esp
94 5e NewCookingRecipes.esp
95 5f CureDiseaseSpell.esp
96 60 AnnaDruidConjuration.esp
97 61 Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp
98 62 IcePenguinWorldMap.esp
99 63 One With Nature - DG+DB.esp
100 64 PassiveWeaponEnchantmentRecharging.esp
101 65 LinearSmithing.esp
102 66 SimpleEnchantingTree.esp
103 67 Redguard Armor.esp
104 68 RedguardKnight.esp
105 69 JaxonzRenamer.esp
106 6a SOTFollowMeAndSwimToo.esp
107 6b AOS2_WetandCold Patch.esp
108 6c AOS2_GDO Patch.esp
109 6d Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp
110 6e Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
111 6f Alternate Start -- New Beginnings.esp

[♥ Barney ♥]

The Saviours Hide is tempered by leather in my game. Cutting Room Floor or USLEEP doesn't change anything. Maybe you have a mod that is doing something to the tempering recipe.

Best thing to do is open up all your mods in TES5edit, click on Constructible Object category in Skyrim.esm and find the tempering recipe for the saviours hide. See what is overriding it.

TemperArmorDA05SaviorsHide - this is the EDID name



edit - Also to note that Saviours Hide has an enchantment on it, so you will need the smithing perk that lets you temper enchanted stuff to be able to improve it.

[King Robert Baratheon]

Originally posted by ♥ Barney ♥:

The Saviours Hide is tempered by leather in my game. Cutting Room Floor or USLEEP doesn't change anything. Maybe you have a mod that is doing something to the tempering recipe.

Best thing to do is open up all your mods in TES5edit, click on Constructible Object category in Skyrim.esm and find the tempering recipe for the saviours hide. See what is overriding it.

TemperArmorDA05SaviorsHide - this is the EDID name



edit - Also to note that Saviours Hide has an enchantment on it, so you will need the smithing perk that lets you temper enchanted stuff to be able to improve it.

I've never used TES5edit before. I assume it's a program you have to download? I'd rather not mess with that kind of stuff though.

Also you clearly didn't read my post thoroughly. I said I have 100 smithing and ALL of the smithing perks.

[voehringer_nitron]

The wiki says there is sometimes a bug where if you make smithing legendary and then take the Arcane Blacksmith perk again, you can't improve enchanted gear.

[King Robert Baratheon]

Originally posted by voehringer_nitron:

The wiki says there is sometimes a bug where if you make smithing legendary and then take the Arcane Blacksmith perk again, you can't improve enchanted gear.

I haven't made it legendary though. I looked through all of my mods I can't think of any them being the culprit. I have over 100 mods installed so of course i'm hesitant to start disabling them to see which ones might be causing this but I might just have to do that one day.

[♥ Barney ♥]

Originally posted by King Robert Baratheon:

Originally posted by voehringer_nitron:

The wiki says there is sometimes a bug where if you make smithing legendary and then take the Arcane Blacksmith perk again, you can't improve enchanted gear.

I haven't made it legendary though. I looked through all of my mods I can't think of any them being the culprit. I have over 100 mods installed so of course i'm hesitant to start disabling them to see which ones might be causing this but I might just have to do that one day.

TES5edit is an extremely useful tool for modders and mod makers, easy to set up and install - see Gamerpoets videos on Youtube for how it works and easy installation, or Fading Signal on Youtube has some good videos. Great for spotting which mods are conflicting and overwriting one another, amongst other things.

Rather than spend 2 hours disabling all your mods 1 by 1 to find the culprit, I'd suggest try it out and you'll probably have your answer in minutes.

[King Robert Baratheon]

Originally posted by ♥ Barney ♥:

Originally posted by King Robert Baratheon:

I haven't made it legendary though. I looked through all of my mods I can't think of any them being the culprit. I have over 100 mods installed so of course i'm hesitant to start disabling them to see which ones might be causing this but I might just have to do that one day.

TES5edit is an extremely useful tool for modders and mod makers, easy to set up and install - see Gamerpoets videos on Youtube for how it works and easy installation, or Fading Signal on Youtube has some good videos. Great for spotting which mods are conflicting and overwriting one another, amongst other things.

Rather than spend 2 hours disabling all your mods 1 by 1 to find the culprit, I'd suggest try it out and you'll probably have your answer in minutes.

I'll try that. Even if it's easy to install though, is it easy to use? "Easy to use" may very from person to person and I've always hated having to do tinkering with games (even though I'm used to it because of how Bethesda games are, especially Fallout 3 & FONV).

[♥ Barney ♥]

Originally posted by King Robert Baratheon:

Originally posted by ♥ Barney ♥:

TES5edit is an extremely useful tool for modders and mod makers, easy to set up and install - see Gamerpoets videos on Youtube for how it works and easy installation, or Fading Signal on Youtube has some good videos. Great for spotting which mods are conflicting and overwriting one another, amongst other things.

Rather than spend 2 hours disabling all your mods 1 by 1 to find the culprit, I'd suggest try it out and you'll probably have your answer in minutes.

I'll try that. Even if it's easy to install though, is it easy to use? "Easy to use" may very from person to person and I've always hated having to do tinkering with games (even though I'm used to it because of how Bethesda games are, especially Fallout 3 & FONV).

Yes, its easy to use and will probably take about 30 minutes watching a few Youtube videos so you get the basics. It's pretty much an essential tool for anyone that mods their game and wants everything to work as it should. Its a tool you can use to clean your master files, spotting mod conflicts, spotting load order issues, making patches, even making your own mods, but as long as you spend a bit of time learning the basics its really easy to use.

Gamerpoets videos, Gopher videos, Fading Signal - all on Youtube.

[King Robert Baratheon]

Originally posted by ♥ Barney ♥:

Originally posted by King Robert Baratheon:

I'll try that. Even if it's easy to install though, is it easy to use? "Easy to use" may very from person to person and I've always hated having to do tinkering with games (even though I'm used to it because of how Bethesda games are, especially Fallout 3 & FONV).

Yes, its easy to use and will probably take about 30 minutes watching a few Youtube videos so you get the basics. It's pretty much an essential tool for anyone that mods their game and wants everything to work as it should. Its a tool you can use to clean your master files, spotting mod conflicts, spotting load order issues, making patches, even making your own mods, but as long as you spend a bit of time learning the basics its really easy to use.

Gamerpoets videos, Gopher videos, Fading Signal - all on Youtube.

Okay. Thanks. I'll copy down your comment in a notepad file just to remember all of this.