Ring of Namira is upgradable?

[Johnny Casey]

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1252188183

Now, as you can see my Ring of Namira has Fortify 145 Stamina on self. Not 50.

How... did this happened? Is the ring upgradable?

All I did was just feeding on corpses. A lot. I don't remember what caused this, because I'm not checking its stats everytime after I done something.

I checked with Tes5Edit several times, but I don't have any mods that alters its enchantment. Ring of Namira stays completly unchanged.

Has anyone seen this happened before?

[Valden21]

Since nothing in your mod list seems to be affecting the RIng of Namira itself, I'd say that something has changed the way Fortify effects work in your game.

[Johnny Casey]

Publicado originalmente por Valden21:

Since nothing in your mod list seems to be affecting the RIng of Namira itself, I'd say that something has changed the way Fortify effects work in your game.

You mean for some reason Fortify Attribute effect in my game has been changed? How?

[Chad "The King" ThunderCuck]

the actual power of that and every item in the game depends on what level you are when you get it.

[Johnny Casey]

Publicado originalmente por KINGS The King:

the actual power of that and every item in the game depends on what level you are when you get it.

Is it? I never heard of that. That's some Oblivion crap right here.

So it works like, whenever I gained a level, its stat goes up as well?

[Chad "The King" ThunderCuck]

Publicado originalmente por Johnny Casey:

Publicado originalmente por KINGS The King:

the actual power of that and every item in the game depends on what level you are when you get it.

Is it? I never heard of that. That's some Oblivion crap right here.

So it works like, whenever I gained a level, its stat goes up as well?

nope. every item in the game has several variant, the exact number varying for each unique item but for standard enchantments theres like 10 levels that can be found. if you want a specific weapon, the best thing to do is before you enter the dungeon or place its in(if you pick it up or loot in a dungeon) is to use the console to set your level to 80, then reset it back when you get the item. if you get it from a dude, im not sure when the best time to cheat your level is. id say when you start the quest most likely.

tl;dr items scale in level when you find them, but they do not grow after that in strength, other than by increasing your skills like the coresponding weapon or armor type, and the enchantment skill.

[Johnny Casey]

Publicado originalmente por KINGS The King:

nope. every item in the game has several variant, the exact number varying for each unique item but for standard enchantments theres like 10 levels that can be found. if you want a specific weapon, the best thing to do is before you enter the dungeon or place its in(if you pick it up or loot in a dungeon) is to use the console to set your level to 80, then reset it back when you get the item. if you get it from a dude, im not sure when the best time to cheat your level is. id say when you start the quest most likely.

tl;dr items scale in level when you find them, but they do not grow after that in strength, other than by increasing your skills like the coresponding weapon or armor type, and the enchantment skill.

Ah, now I know what you're talking about. I thought you were saying some sort of leveled gear like in Oblivion(Hatred's Soul and all that).

Well, I post this thread to see if this weird 'upgrade' for Ring of Namira was intended or bug. So, I can assume you know nothing about it by the looks of it.

[Bomb Bloke]

Publicado originalmente por Johnny Casey:

I thought you were saying some sort of leveled gear like in Oblivion(Hatred's Soul and all that).

He IS saying that. There's only a short list of items in Skyrim that work that way, though, and the Ring isn't on it.

http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Leveled_Items

I'd be inclined to check the ring with MFG Console, see if that turns anything up. It might not even be the original ring. Just drop it into the world and highlight it with the console open, see if anything unusual is displayed.

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/44596/

[Uncle64]

That should not happen.
1+ on Bomb Blokes and Valden21s posts.

[Johnny Casey]

Publicado originalmente por Bomb Bloke:

I'd be inclined to check the ring with MFG Console, see if that turns anything up. It might not even be the original ring. Just drop it into the world and highlight it with the console open, see if anything unusual is displayed.

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/44596/

I used MFG as you suggested, and this is what I get.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1252483291

I checked USLEEP right away, and all it does was add 'Cloth' keyward to KYWD rows.

Original ring confirmed. What should I do next?

[Chad "The King" ThunderCuck]

Publicado originalmente por Bomb Bloke:

Publicado originalmente por Johnny Casey:

I thought you were saying some sort of leveled gear like in Oblivion(Hatred's Soul and all that).

He IS saying that. There's only a short list of items in Skyrim that work that way, though, and the Ring isn't on it.

http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Leveled_Items

I'd be inclined to check the ring with MFG Console, see if that turns anything up. It might not even be the original ring. Just drop it into the world and highlight it with the console open, see if anything unusual is displayed.

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/44596/

every item in the game is leveled. there is no piece of vanilla equipment that does not scale to your level when you first find it.

Publicado originalmente por Johnny Casey:

Publicado originalmente por Bomb Bloke:

I'd be inclined to check the ring with MFG Console, see if that turns anything up. It might not even be the original ring. Just drop it into the world and highlight it with the console open, see if anything unusual is displayed.

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/44596/

I used MFG as you suggested, and this is what I get.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1252483291

I checked USLEEP right away, and all it does was add 'Cloth' keyward to KYWD rows.

Original ring confirmed. What should I do next?

nothing. the ring is leveled to whatever level you were when you got it. just like i told you, and just like every item in the game. the wiki page that guy links to dosent say those are the ONLY items that are scaled to level, because their not. every item in the base game is scaled to level.

[Bomb Bloke]

Publicado originalmente por Johnny Casey:

Original ring confirmed. What should I do next?

Personally I'd move onto a move thorough check - disable all mods, see if the ring remains affected. If it changes back to its base version, re-enabling half the list at a time should allow you to narrow it down to a specific mod fairly quickly.

If it remains weird even with no mods loaded, then I would have to guess that there's a script somehow altering the item. That'd be relatively difficult to track down, as many scripts, once started, are able to continue running even after their parent mods are removed.

If you haven't already, it'd be worth eating a few more corpses to see whether that alters the item further. If it does, then that'd confirm it's due to script action.

It'd also be worth checking other Daedric items you've obtained against the stats you see on UESP, as a mod which alters one is likely to alter others.

Publicado originalmente por KINGS The King:

the wiki page that guy links to dosent say those are the ONLY items that are scaled to level, because their not. every item in the base game is scaled to level.

So what you're saying here is, someone created a completely redundant partial list of levelled items, for a game in which all items are supposed to be levelled?

Run that logic through your head a few times - I'm having a hard time getting it to fit in mine. Do you not find it odd that no other items have documented lists of stats-by-level?

[Chad "The King" ThunderCuck]

Publicado originalmente por Bomb Bloke:

Publicado originalmente por KINGS The King:

the wiki page that guy links to dosent say those are the ONLY items that are scaled to level, because their not. every item in the base game is scaled to level.

So what you're saying here is, someone created a completely redundant partial list of levelled items, for a game in which all items are supposed to be levelled?

Run that logic through your head a few times - I'm having a hard time getting it to fit in mine. Do you not find it odd that no other items have documented lists of stats-by-level?

why dont you take a look at the specific TES wiki you linked. that one is literally full of redundant pages, pages missing information, pages outright wrong, etc.

you couldnt have picked a worse wiki to take your information from. wanna see a quicker way to see that youre wrong? type coc qasmoke into the console and go check out the uniques chest, or the rings chest, wherever the hell that would be. and check out the 10 or so different versions of it.