Mana cost

[Grawl]

I have 4 items, each of them must reduce the cost of destruction spells for 25%, but i am still spent mana when use spells. Whats the problem? (With the help of translator)

[kobe bryants helicoper pilot]

fix ur translator plz

[Grawl]

Originally posted by FaZe Doge:

fix ur translator plz

And now?

[sweeker]

didnt encounter that yet.
unless im forgetting about apossible way to increase mana cost through some debuffs/powers and so on.

check in the magic/powers section and there under active effects if you see those 4 times fortify destruction 25% effects really register there.

[Grawl]

Originally posted by sweeker:

didnt encounter that yet.
unless im forgetting about apossible way to increase mana cost through some debuffs/powers and so on.

check in the magic/powers section and there under active effects if you see those 4 times fortify destruction 25% effects really register there.

i checked: i have 4 times fortify destruction 25%, also i dont have any debuffs, may be console will help me?

[sweeker]

console can easily break your saves if not used properly...and id have no idea what kinds of commands might clear that up spontaniously...if any.

id wait a bit, maybe someone else had a similar issue or a better understanding what the problem might be... and gives advice.

[Digstar]

Originally posted by TemeGoo:

I have 4 items, each of them must reduce the cost of destruction spells for 25%, but i am still spent mana when use spells. Whats the problem? (With the help of translator)

Remove your characters clothing/enched jewellry manually in the inventory menu. Run around a bit then put your gear back on. Sometimes mods that may undress/redress (adult mods come to mind) your character may cause issues with enchanted gear when the mod re-equips them.

I had a similar issue with my archery damage despite very strong enchants on my gear. I did a quick un-equip re-equip and my OP gear was working as enchanted..

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

I am not certain, but 25% x 4 probably isn't the same as a 100% reduction.

If all 4 were added together before the reduction was calculated then it would be 100%, but I think each 25% you add probably only reduces 25% from the total of the last reduction, which most likely makes it fall short of 100%.

[sweeker]

Originally posted by Omgwtfbbqkitten:

I am not certain, but 25% x 4 probably isn't the same as a 100% reduction.

If all 4 were added together before the reduction was calculated then it would be 100%, but I think each 25% you add probably only reduces 25% from the total of the last reduction, which most likely makes it fall short of 100%.

thats how the reduction through skillpoints and perks works.

fortify magic school on items should just add up to a grand total.
if there arent any mods playing around with those things of course.

[Supafly]

I'm sure the math isn't different from what you think. Each items reduction % is calculated from the current cost

Example :-

spell cost 100m
Reducde cost by 25%

100m - 25% = 75m
Reduce cost by 25% again is

75m - 25% = 56.25m
Reduce cost by 25% again is

56.25m - 25% = 42.18m and so and so on.

[Grawl]

Originally posted by Digstar:

Originally posted by TemeGoo:

I have 4 items, each of them must reduce the cost of destruction spells for 25%, but i am still spent mana when use spells. Whats the problem? (With the help of translator)

Remove your characters clothing/enched jewellry manually in the inventory menu. Run around a bit then put your gear back on. Sometimes mods that may undress/redress (adult mods come to mind) your character may cause issues with enchanted gear when the mod re-equips them.

I had a similar issue with my archery damage despite very strong enchants on my gear. I did a quick un-equip re-equip and my OP gear was working as enchanted..

it doesnt work, a was runnig about 10 minutes and remove/put on my clothes
also i dont use any modes or something else
i was using a console earlier: just spawning mobs and weapon, god mode
but after i downloaded my saves and continue playing

[kobe bryants helicoper pilot]

If you got is 100, but is decreased by 25% it is now 75 mana
25% less from 75 is 56.25 then it becomes about 42, then about 30
It decrease by 25% of your current mana costs, not the original

[Grawl]

Originally posted by FaZe Doge:

If you got is 100, but is decreased by 25% it is now 75 mana
25% less from 75 is 56.25 then it becomes about 42, then about 30
It decrease by 25% of your current mana costs, not the original

i found the reason! the console! i dont know have but... i downloaded my ealier saves where i just made my first armor and yes! it works! i dont spent mana!

[Pippin123]

Originally posted by FaZe Doge:

If you got is 100, but is decreased by 25% it is now 75 mana
25% less from 75 is 56.25 then it becomes about 42, then about 30
It decrease by 25% of your current mana costs, not the original

Not in Skyrim it doesn't.

The game sums all your enchants, then applies it. So 4 items that gives -25% reduction really mean you have 0 mana cost for this specific skill.

It's a fun build when you go Mage and Level Enchanting to 100, you can then spam Destruction for free (and spend your points on health instead of Mana).

[DeadlyDanDaMan]

Originally posted by TemeGoo:

Originally posted by FaZe Doge:

If you got is 100, but is decreased by 25% it is now 75 mana
25% less from 75 is 56.25 then it becomes about 42, then about 30
It decrease by 25% of your current mana costs, not the original

i found the reason! the console! i dont know have but... i downloaded my ealier saves where i just made my first armor and yes! it works! i dont spent mana!

^This is why you should NEVER use console cheats in any of your games. It will almost always break your saves. This goes for every game ever made, not just Skyrim.

[alexander_dougherty]

Originally posted by DeadlyDanDaMan:

Originally posted by TemeGoo:

i found the reason! the console! i dont know have but... i downloaded my ealier saves where i just made my first armor and yes! it works! i dont spent mana!

^This is why you should NEVER use console cheats in any of your games. It will almost always break your saves. This goes for every game ever made, not just Skyrim.

Not always, but you need to know what you are doing.