Unable to start "Purity of Revenge"

[Setsuna]

I think I've tried just about every offered solution. I've tried the console, I've tried resetting the Driftshade maps, I've tried disable/enable on Vilkas, I've even tried manually clearing the area at multiple points in time, both before Blood's Honor is finished and after finishing but before heading back to Whiterun. The person whose issue sounds closest to mine is the last item on the talk page at UESP:

http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim_talk:Purity_of_Revenge#Another_solution.2C_alternative_to_all_provided.2C_including_official_and_unofficial_patches.21_.28rare_case.29

Like them, I already had the Unofficial patch from the beginning, so the old Helm of Winterfell issue should not be affecting me. And like them, I waited a very long time to start the quest (Had I known about the werewolf changes that let you go back and forth I would have done it sooner.. and of course my last save before becoming a werewolf must be at least 4 hours old, if not older.) Although I have the location on my map, I have never cleared Driftshade and it is already populated with Silver Hand guys, even before I get the Blood's Honor quest. Unfortunately, even this does not help. And of course nothing I do with the console relating to c05 seems to do anything.

About the only thing I haven't tried is trying to skip c06 or skip to the middle of c06. Skipping to the beginning starts the funeral but it does not proceed and gets stuck (I would like to at least see that scene dammit.) I don't know how well that would work long term either, I'd rather not settle things in a way that might cause more problems down the line.

I already filed a bug report at AFKTrack but so far I've gotten no response.

Also I have a really small number of mods that should not have anything to do with the problem.

But just in case (I never would have guessed that Netimmerse Override would cause crashes by entering an area with a decapitated head), aside from the unofficial patch, I've got:

-SKSE
-Crash Fixes v12
-Race Menu
-SkyUI
-Flora Respawn Fix
-Ask Follower Skills (Tried disabling this one already.)
-No Killmoves Against Player
-Better Dialogue Controls
-Enchantment Value Fix

[Setsuna]

I turned it off and racemenu still works afaik.

[smr1957]

Originally posted by Alkpaz:

That is news to me, I rarely use one handers so that could be why I never had that issue.. mainly a bow sometimes 2 hander.

Thanks for pointing that out.

I have Netimmerse Override installed, and have never encountered that problem in the over 1100 hours that it has been installed, nor have I ever seen it mentioned anywhere except for this one time.

I would tend to think that there is something else that is causing the crash.

[Setsuna]

Nope, disabling that and only that immediately stopped the crashes.

But can we stay on topic plz?

[smr1957]

Apologies for the digression, Setsuna. Have you tried checking: http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Purity_of_Revenge especially the Bugs section?

[smr1957]

Originally posted by Alkpaz:

He linked it in his OP, so I figure he has already read through it. He also runs USLEEP, so it is a big "?" for me, just thought the netimmerse thingy was interesting, since I had never heard about it. Good to know that I shouldn't be lopping off heads left n right while using it. :P

Misread that link. Big quesion mark for me, as well. Hopefully someone else will post with some possible solutions - it's got be wondering what the problem is.

[Mr. Monday]

Originally posted by Setsuna:

I think I've tried just about every offered solution. I've tried the console, I've tried resetting the Driftshade maps, I've tried disable/enable on Vilkas, I've even tried manually clearing the area at multiple points in time, both before Blood's Honor is finished and after finishing but before heading back to Whiterun. The person whose issue sounds closest to mine is the last item on the talk page at UESP:

http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim_talk:Purity_of_Revenge#Another_solution.2C_alternative_to_all_provided.2C_including_official_and_unofficial_patches.21_.28rare_case.29

Like them, I already had the Unofficial patch from the beginning, so the old Helm of Winterfell issue should not be affecting me. And like them, I waited a very long time to start the quest (Had I known about the werewolf changes that let you go back and forth I would have done it sooner.. and of course my last save before becoming a werewolf must be at least 4 hours old, if not older.) Although I have the location on my map, I have never cleared Driftshade and it is already populated with Silver Hand guys, even before I get the Blood's Honor quest. Unfortunately, even this does not help. And of course nothing I do with the console relating to c05 seems to do anything.

About the only thing I haven't tried is trying to skip c06 or skip to the middle of c06. Skipping to the beginning starts the funeral but it does not proceed and gets stuck (I would like to at least see that scene dammit.) I don't know how well that would work long term either, I'd rather not settle things in a way that might cause more problems down the line.

I already filed a bug report at AFKTrack but so far I've gotten no response.

Also I have a really small number of mods that should not have anything to do with the problem.

But just in case (I never would have guessed that Netimmerse Override would cause crashes by entering an area with a decapitated head), aside from the unofficial patch, I've got:

-SKSE
-Crash Fixes v12
-Race Menu
-SkyUI
-Flora Respawn Fix
-Ask Follower Skills (Tried disabling this one already.)
-No Killmoves Against Player
-Better Dialogue Controls
-Enchantment Value Fix

Two questions:

1 = Is the load order posted your complete load order, and did you sort it with LOOT?

2 = Have you tried knocking out the Jarl's quest? I know you said you have the patch and the patch is supposed to block that location for radiant quests, but I'm wondering if maybe the patch glitched on you for some reason.

[Setsuna]

Originally posted by Mr. Monday:

Two questions:

1 = Is the load order posted your complete load order, and did you sort it with LOOT?

2 = Have you tried knocking out the Jarl's quest? I know you said you have the patch and the patch is supposed to block that location for radiant quests, but I'm wondering if maybe the patch glitched on you for some reason.

Well that's not counting stuff like Skyrim.esm, Update.esm, Hearthfire.esm etc. I've also got them sorted differently on the left and right in Mod Organizer; the load order.txt says:

# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.
Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
RaceMenu.esp
SkyUI.esp
DDU_EnchantmentValueFix.esp
FloraRespawnFix.esp
AskFollowerSkills.esp
NoKillmovesAgainstPlayer - Dawnguard.esp

As for the Jarl's quest, I had done that quest earlier but it sent me to a barrow somewhere around the northern coast. I also once tried getting the quest again and using the console (Though I don't remember where I was in the quest chain when I did it) to instantly complete it to no avail.

Hmm, that is strange though, according to UESP the unofficial patch was supposed to stop it from becoming repeatable. Maybe I'll try fiddling with that again.

*EDIT*

Tried again, no luck. Finishing the helm quest again changes nothing.

[Setsuna]

Found the culprit! (Darn, I was almost getting some progress on other games done.)

Although I'm annoyed that they closed my ticket at AFKTrack before I could ask for more help, I managed to figure it out on my own. It seems the quest was starting for them for some reason, which meant it was either a mod or something else on my end.

Remember that Netimmerse Override problem I mentioned earlier? Well before I figured out THAT culprit, one of my attempts to fix it involved cleaning the files with TESV Edit. I restored the original update.esm and now the quest starts properly. I wonder if I should just restore the original .esms for the 3 addons while I'm at it...

[Setsuna]

No, just one at a time.