CTD During Vigilant Mod

[Mizaru81]

Title pretty much sums it up. Let me say where it's happening. It happens after entering the Matron Chambers and getting impaled by the spears and changing areas. I believe it might be an installation problem since I'm using MO. I need an extra set of eyes on my mod list because I can't tell where the problem lies (if there is one), but I believe that my mod list is FUBARed. Any help is appreciated.

SKSE Memory Patch is in place at 768/256.

My list of mods here:

+DynDOLOD Output
+DynDOLOD Textures
+Dual Sheath Redux Patch
+Scarlet Dawn Armor - CBBEv3 - UNP - 7B Cleavage BBP - CBPE - UNPB BBP
+Smart Souls
+NARC - No Animals Report Crimes
+Guard Dialogue Overhaul
+Appropriately Attired Jarls
+MHYH
+Awesome Loading Screen Replacement NOW with Dovahbear version
+Witchhunter Spells and Prayers Pack
+Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim
+Legacy of the Dragonborn Patch Collection
+Dual Sheath Redux
+Fossil Mining
+More Interesting Loot for Skyrim
+Skyrim Underground
+Royal Armory - New Artifacts
+Amulets of Skyrim
+Cloaks of Skyrim 1-2
+Complete Crafting Overhaul Remade
+Immersive Armors
+Immersive Weapons
+Heavy Armory
+Dawnguard Arsenal
+Oblivion Artifact Pack V6.1
+BadGremlins Something Fishy
+BadGremlins Trophy Heads
+Better Falskaar and Wyrmstooth Map With Roads
+Falskaar
+The Gray Cowl of Nocturnal
+Hunterborn
+Wyrmstooth
+Helgen Reborn
+Aetherium Armor and Weapons Compilation
+BadGremlins Captured Fairies
+BadGremlins Great JarHunt
+Skyrims Unique Treasures
+Spell Crafting for Skyrim
+Immersive College of Winterhold
+Undeath
+Moon and Star
+The Wheels of Lull
+The Forgotten City
+Unread Books Glow
+Konahriks Accoutrements - Dragon Priest Armory
+VIGILANT Voiced - English Addon
+VIGILANT
+Legacy of the Dragonborn (Dragonborn Gallery)
+YY Anim Replacer - Mystic Knight
+Pretty Combat Animations
+sexy idle Animation
+SXP main
-RS Children Patches
+RS Children Overhaul
+The College of Winterhold - NPC Improvement
+TDN Improved Lucien - Spectral Assassin Replacer
+Males of Skyrim
+Valerica
+Seranaholic
+A Study in Tragedy - Astrid Replacer
+Skyrim Ladies - Aela and Astrid
+Bijin AIO
+Bijin NPCs
+Bijin Wives
+Bijin Warmaidens
+The Ordinary Women
+Customizable UI Replacer
+Widget Mod
+Less Intrusive HUD II
+A Matter of Time - A HUD clock widget
+HDT Breast And Butt Physics - TBBP BBP Supported
+HDT HighHeels System
+HDT Physics Extensions
+Smile in HD
+Brows
+The Art of Beard - New Facial Hairs
+Beards
+High Resolution Scars
+Northborn Scars
+XCE - Warpaint and Dirt
+KS Hairdos - Renewal
+ApachiiSkyHair
+Superior Lore-Friendly Hair - HD textures
+Eyes of Aber
+Better males - Beautiful nudes and faces - New hairstyles
+Seductive Lips HD
-XP32 Maximum Skeleton Extended
+XP32 Maximum Skeleton
+Realistic Ragdolls and Force
+SeveNBase a custom FemaleBodyReplacer
+Pride of Valhalla - Super HD Skin Set for UNP-UNPB-7B-CBBE
+RaceMenu
+High Poly Project
+Embers HD
+Frankly HD Stormcloak and City Guards
+Lockpicking Interface Redone
+Frankly HD Silver Sword
+Nightingale Pride - Bow and Blade Reincarnation
+Skyrim Landscape Overhaul - Stone Walls
+Windhelm Enhanced - 500 Companions Wall 8k HD Retexture
+Windhelm Enhanced - HD 4k Metalwork
+Windhelm Enhanced - HD 4k Grey Quarter Flags
+White Phial Replacer
+Weathered Road Signs
+WATERplants - retexture by Pfuscher
+Vandr Presents - HD Falmer Pod
+Upgrade for Large imperial tent
+Ultra HD Rags Retexture
+Troll skull 4kHD
+Stunning Statues of Skyrim
+Ice Wraith and Dragon Priest Retexture 4k - 2k
+Storm Atronach - Creature Retex
+Seeker and Lurker - Creature Retex
+Ren's HD Shrines by Rengel
+PELTAPALOOZA - Pelts of Skyrim Expansion
+OIL
+Northfire's Skidmarks 1K-2K
+Nord Cattle - HD cows
+nightingale circle
+Better Shape Creature
+Frost Atronach HD Retexture
+More Dramatic Alduin Retexture
+MAPS
+MANHOLE OF SOLITUDE
+Magic Runes HD
+LEAVES
+Leather details
+JS Dragon Claws
+Jewels of the Nord - HD rings and necklaces
+Designs of the Nords
+Insanitys City Banner Replacer
+IMMERSIVE LORE-FRIENDLY CHEESE AND CABBAGE
+Hectrol SPIDER WEBS Deluxe HighRes Retex
+HD Model Ship
-HD Dark brotherhood door
+Gildergreen 4K Parallax
+Frankly HD Miraak
+Fine Lute Texture
+Farmhouse Chimneys
+Horncandles
+Giant
+Falmer.by.Kajuan
+Hagravens
+Hagraven.by.Kajuan
-Wispmother.by.Kajuan
+Troll.by.Kajuan
+Skeever Tail 1K
+Taproot 1K
+Spider Egg Retexture
+Falmer Ear and Hagraven Claw
+ELECTRIFY
+Dragonborn Clothing HD Retextures
+HD Whiterun Shack door
+DOOR
+Detailing the Eldrich - Higher-Res Riekling Architecture
+Detailing the Eldrich - Higher-Res Apocrypha - Temple of Miraak - Black Books
+RUSTIC GARGOYLE
+RUSTIC DEATH HOUND
+Clothes Iron's retexture
+Book Covers Skyrim
+BLOODSTONE CHALICE REBORN
+better ropes for skyrim
+Better mammoth cheese
+Barset HQ
+Barenziah's Glory
+Arri's Snow Elf Ruins Retexture
+Dwemer Automatons HD
+alduins wall retexture - concept art
+4K Parallax High Hrothgar by Pfuscher
+SkyFix - HD Blacksmith Signs
+SkyFix - Unique Inn Signs HD
+Beautiful Honey Signs - 2K Overhaul - 1K Optional
+ENB Water on Horse Trough and Blacksmith Forge
+Realistic HD Blacksmith
+Realistic HD Mushrooms
+Realistic HD Beverages
+CC's Enhanced Ore Veins - 2K
+Realistic HD Baskets
+Realistic HD Food
-Daedric Armor and weapon Improvement
+Realistic Jazbay Grapes
+Better Nirnroot - Hi-Res 2K Textures
+Hybrids HD Plants and Herbs Retexture
+Hanging Moss replacer into plant by Pfuscher
+Deathbell by Mari
+Mountain flower by Mari
-Deathbell HD - All-New Textures (2K-1K)
+Awesome Apiaries
+Thieves Guild Armor HD revival
+Transparent and refracting Glass armor weapon CBBE UNP UNPB
+Refracting Stalhrim CBBE UNP 7Base with optional transparency
+Spellbreaker Oblivionized retexture in HD
+Nightingale Prime HD
+Dragonscale Armor Retexture - Lore Friendly
+Dragonbone Armor and Weapons HD by Natterforme
+Dawn of the Dawnguard Armor
+Deadly Spell Impacts
+Enhanced Blood Textures
+Birds of Skyrim
+Smoking Torches and Candles
+Ultimate HD Torch
+A Quality World Map and Solstheim Map - With Roads
+RUSTIC ANIMATED POTIONS and POISONS
+Forgotten Retex Project
+Serious Mammoth Bone Retex HD
+Business Ledger HD Retexture
+HD Stone Quarry and Clay Deposit for Hearthfire
+HD Ruined Book Retexture - 1k 4k -
+RUSTIC WORD WALLS
+RUSTIC STANDING STONES
+Soulgem Stand Redone
+RUSTIC SOULGEMS
+RUSTIC OVEN - Hearthfires
+RUSTIC NORDIC MURALS
+RUSTIC MONUMENTS AND TOMBSTONES
+RUSTIC FORSWORN
+RUSTIC ELDERSCROLL
+RUSTIC EAST EMPIRE COMPANY SIGNAGE
+RUSTIC COOKING STATION
+RUSTIC CLUTTER COLLECTION
+LeanWolf's Better-Shaped Weapons - All in One Installer
+LeanWolf's Improved Enchanter Candle Meshes
+RUSTIC ALCHEMY and ENCHANTING TABLES
+RUSTIC WINDOWS - 2K and 1K Textures
+Joy of Ships
+aMidianBorn Book of Silence - Armors
+Mage Outfit Texture Overhaul - Schools of Magic
+RUSTIC CLOTHING
+Lepidoptera Of Skyrim
+Realistic Boat Bobbing
+RUSTIC DRAGON CORPSE
+HD Horker
+Thanatos as Durnehviir
+Bellyaches HD Dragon Replacer Pack
+Bellyaches Animal and Creature Pack
+Dawnguard Parallax
+Skygazer Moons - Masser and Secunda Ultra HD 4K (2K and 1K) Moon Textures
+Lorkhans Vision - Night Sky V2
+Expanded Towns and Cities Im. Set. Merged File
+Vivid Weathers
+True Storms - Thunder and Rain Redone v1.5
+Natural Lighting Vivid Atmospherics
+Dust Effects
+Project Parallax Remastered
+Vivid Landscapes - Rocking Stones and Mountains Two
+Whiterun Streets
+Skyrim 2016 WIP by Pfuscher
+HD Photorealistic Ivy
-Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin
+Immersive Fallen Trees Mod
+HD Enhanced Terrain
+Fences of Skyrim - No more flickering fences
+Vivid Landscapes - All in One
+4k Parallax Mines by Pfuscher
+aMidianBorn Caves and Mines
+Skyrim 2015 Parallax STP by Pfuscher
+aMidianBorn Landscape
+Immersive Roads
+2K-4K Parallax Bridges by Pfuscher
+Forest Bark
+TES5LODGen
+Enhanced Landscapes
+DynDOLOD Resources
+Skysight - Simply Bigger Trees
+Skyrim Flora Overhaul - BillBoards
+Skyrim Flora Overhaul
+RUGNAROK
+Transparent wave spray Retexture by Pfuscher
+Realistic Water Two
+aMidianBorn Solstheim Landscape
+Solstheim landscape and furniture
+Skyrim HD - 2K Textures
+Static Mesh Improvement Mod
+Ultimate HD Fire Effects
+Ruins Clutter Improved
+Skyrim Particle Patch for ENB
+Skyrim Subsurface Scattering Patch for ENB
+Alternate Start - Live Another Life
+SkyUI
+Fores New Idles in Skyrim - FNIS
+Crash Fixes v12 - Beta
+FileAccess Interface for Skyrim Script - FISS
+PapyrusUtil - Modders Scripting Utility Functions
+SKSE Scripts
+Unofficial High Resolution Patch
*Unmanaged: HighResTexturePack03
*Unmanaged: HighResTexturePack02
*Unmanaged: HighResTexturePack01
+Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch
+Optimized Dragonborn Textures - SD
+Cleaned Dragonborn ESM
*Unmanaged: Dragonborn
+Optimized HearthFires Textures - SD
+Cleaned HearthFires ESM
*Unmanaged: HearthFires
+Optimized Dawnguard Textures - SD
+Cleaned Dawnguard ESM
*Unmanaged: Dawnguard
+Optimized Vanilla Textures - SD
+Cleaned Update ESM


My Load Order:

Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
Falskaar.esm
Wyrmstooth.esp
ETaC - RESOURCES.esm
ApachiiHair.esm
ApachiiHairFemales.esm
ApachiiHairMales.esm
hdtHighHeel.esm
RSkyrimChildren.esm
Gray Fox Cowl.esm
HighResTexturePack01.esp
HighResTexturePack02.esp
HighResTexturePack03.esp
Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp
SkyUI.esp
Vivid Landscapes.esp
ETaC - Complete.esp
Skyrim Particle Patch for ENB - Flame Atronach Fix.esp
TrueStorms.esp
Natural Lighting Vivid Atmospherics TS.esp
Lepidoptera Of Skyrim DLC1.esp
AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp
Differently Ebony.esp
RUSTIC SOULGEMS - Unsorted.esp
IcePenguinWorldMap.esp
Smoking Candles.esp
Smoking Torches.esp
Enhanced Landscapes.esp
LegacyoftheDragonborn.esp
CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp
immersive roads.esp
Enhanced Landscapes - Dead Marsh.esp
Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp
Book Covers Skyrim.esp
EpisodeParallax.esp
Immersive Orc Strongholds.esp
Enhanced Landscapes - Grass.esp
Helgen Reborn.esp
Weathered Road Signs.esp
Birdsofskyrim.esp
SLO_StoneWalls.esp
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp
DeadlySpellImpacts.esp
DeadlySpellImpacts - Two Fire.esp
Realistic HD Beverages.esp
Eyes of Aber.esp
KS Hairdo's.esp
NB-Scars.esp
Beards.esp
TAotB - New Facial Hairs.esp
Brows.esp
RaceMenu.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Medium.esp
FNIS.esp
LessIntrusiveHUD.esp
FISS.esp
WM_WidgetMod.esp
AMatterOfTime.esp
RSChildren.esp
RSChildren Patch - USLEEP.esp
zzzSXP.esp
UnreadBooksGlow.esp
AKSkyrimUnderground.esp
MoonAndStar_MAS.esp
Undeath.esp
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
Immersive Weapons.esp
aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp
Immersive Solstheim.esp
RBB Long Boats.esp
The Ordinary Women.esp
SkyrimsUniqueTreasures.esp
SolitudeExterior.esp
escutcheonredwave.esp
More Interesting Loot for Skyrim.esp
DBM_MIL+OAP_Patch.esp
PrvtI_HeavyArmory.esp
SMIM-Merged-All.esp
Cloaks.esp
SL01AmuletsSkyrim.esp
fallentreebridges.esp
RBB Large Boats.esp
SFO - Dragonborn.esp
WhiterunExterior.esp
FNISspells.esp
DawnguardArsenal.esp
Bijin AIO.esp
Skyrim Ladies - Aela.esp
Astrid.esp
Serana.esp
Valerica.esp
Males of Skyrim.esp
ImprovedLucien.esp
DBM_HA+IW+IA+DG_Patch.esp
Hunterborn.esp
Mage Outfit Texture Overhaul.esp
RBB Row Boats.esp
ETaC - Dragon Bridge South.esp
Enhanced Landscapes - Patch.esp
konahrik_accoutrements.esp
Vigilant.esp
Fossilsyum.esp
RBB Long Boats - Falskaar.esp
Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
DBM_MAS_Patch.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Wyrmstooth.esp
ForgottenCity.esp
WheelsOfLull.esp
BadGremlinsJarHunt.esp
DBM_AmuletsOfSkyrim_Patch.esp
_tck_SpellCrafting.esp
College of Winterhold NPC Impovement.esp
BGtheCapturedFairies.esp
PrvtIRoyalArmory.esp
konahrik_accoutrements_db.esp
DBM_Undeath_Patch.esp
FarmhouseChimneys.esp
RealisticWaterTwo.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Wyrmstooth.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp
Skysan_ENBHorseTrough.esp
BGtrophyHeads.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Dawnguard.esp
EmbersHD.esp
AetheriumSwordsnArmor.esp
BGsomethingFishy.esp
FarmhouseChimneysFalskaar+Wyrmstooth.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Falskaar.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Falskaar.esp
RBB Long Boats - Wyrmstooth.esp
RBB Row Boats - Wyrmstooth.esp
MoonAndStar_Undeath_compat.esp
My Home Is Your Home.esp
FarmhouseChimneysMaS.esp
HighHrothgarWindowGlow.esp
SL01AmuletsSkyrimDGDB_Outfit_CCOR.esp
Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
Dual Sheath Redux.esp
DBM_CCOR_patch.esp
DBM_DPA_Patch.esp
DBM_RoyalArmory_Patch.esp
DBM_SkyrimUnderground_Patch.esp
DBM_VigilantPatch.esp
Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
Perk Points at Skill Levels 50-75-100.esp
NARC-FalskaarConsistencyPatch.esp
NARC.esp
Appropriately Attired Jarls Redux.esp
WitchhunterPackRelease1.0.esp
ScarletDawnArmor.esp
Vigilant Voiced.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
FarmhouseChimneysLAL.esp
Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp
DynDOLOD.esp


Just ask if you need computer specs however I don't think that's the case here because the CTD is only happening at this one spot.

[yayie]

There's several errors that has nothing to do with vigilant mod tho.

1. You're using Optimized Vanilla Textures, you don't need the High Resolution DLCs and its Unofficial High Resolution Patch.

2. XPMSE is the latest version of XPMS.

-XP32 Maximum Skeleton Extended (XPMSE) - You should use this instead
+XP32 Maximum Skeleton(XPMS)

3. Optionally, you don't need crash fixes.
- A proper set up skse.ini and enboost is more than enough.

4. Bijin AIO + Serana + Valerica

i. Install Bijin NPCs rename the mod "Bijin AIO"
ii. Install Bijin Warmaidens rename it "Bijin AIO", merge
iii. Install Bijin Wives, rename it Bijin AIO, merge
iv. Do the same to Valerica and Serana (merged in Bijin AIO)
v. Download and install "Bijin AIO-2016-3.1.1 - Serana Valerica" https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/72626/? (name it "Bijin AIO" -Merge)
vi. Hide all Bijin esps except BijinAIO-2016_3.1.1_SV.esp
vii. https://i.imgur.com/u3LRALb.png

5.
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp - should be loaded before
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

Didn't follow up the rest of the mods, some of it Im not familiar with. But make sure in MO on the right pane is sorted by LOOT and sort the left pane manually to mirror the right.

[Mizaru81]

Certainly cut back on my mod list a small bit. Only reason I was using XPMS instead of XPSME was because the latter wouldn't place one handed swords on the back and I couldn't figure out how to fix that. If i knew how to, I'd use XPSME all day long. Thanks for the advice!

[yayie]

Originally posted by Mizaru81:

Certainly cut back on my mod list a small bit. Only reason I was using XPMS instead of XPSME was because the latter wouldn't place one handed swords on the back and I couldn't figure out how to fix that. If i knew how to, I'd use XPSME all day long. Thanks for the advice!

Try to make sure that no XPMSE skeleton gets everwritten by other mods. Place this somewhere below in the modlist.

[Mizaru81]

That did the trick. Thanks! Now to figure out why this crash keeps happening.

[Mizaru81]

So I disabled every plugin I had except the core esp's and Vigilant (and English Patch) and still got the CTD after getting impaled. I even disabled the English patch and did a clean install of the mod and the patch thinking that might be the cause but it still happened. I'm stumped as to what could be causing this.

[yayie]

Actually, you can't remove mods mid playthrough. In most cases, it'll break the save. I suggest do the testing on a new save. There's alot of sorting that needs to be done in your MO. As a result you might want to start a new playthrough once you get everything fixed.

In practice, I usually test the mod before adding them in my modlist.

Its hard to deduce the issue as some of the mods Im not familiar with. I'll ask other forum members if they know what's up.

[Mizaru81]

I actually disabled everything in the left pain except for Vigilant and it didn't crash, so it has to be a list order issue. I'm not sure as to how I should manually sort it because I have a lot of merged files and the plugins won't match the order.

[Ilja]

yayie called for cavalry. I can see that there are several mistakes in the left panel. Displayed conflicts in MO left panel do not tell the whole case: resource files there should match with the load order - according to their base ESP/ESM files.

That might be a source of your issues.

XPMSE of course makes an exception. It's ESP position does not really matter, but as said, it really should win conflicts against other mods, except Output folders.

One other thing, which is actually unrelated to your crashes, but something you should consider. You are missing both TES5Merged.esp and Bashed Patch. Keywords and leveled lists are not working correctly in your game. Let's fix your crashes first and then see how to fix that. :)

[Uncle64]

Did find the same as you Ilja.
His left side makes me sad.

Could also not find his output folder for skse/Fnis and one for misc.

[Mizaru81]

Originally posted by Uncle64SwE:

Did find the same as you Ilja.
His left side makes me sad.

Could also not find his output folder for skse/Fnis and one for misc.

I couldn't help but laugh because it's making me sad too.

So what I have so far is as long as everything in the left panel is disabled save for Vigilant and it's English patch will not cause the game to crash at the specified point. I'm not sure why this is the case, but i'm hell bent on finding out why this is the case now.

[Mizaru81]

So far I've found that the "Skyrim 2016 WIP by Pfuscher" was causing a crash at the point in question, but now I've found out that it's not the only mod doing it. At least I know which mods arn't doing it.

Edit: Disabled Project Parallax Remastered as well as the previous and now the crash has stopped completely.

[нао]

Originally posted by Mizaru81:

So far I've found that the "Skyrim 2016 WIP by Pfuscher" was causing a crash at the point in question, but now I've found out that it's not the only mod doing it. At least I know which mods arn't doing it.

Edit: Disabled Project Parallax Remastered as well as the previous and now the crash has stopped completely.

I was helped by the shutdown of Project Parallax HD2K. Thanks man!

[Nyuu]

What an annoying thread to read. So much misinformation and perceived knowledge. Only for Mizaru to figure it out himself.

"Yayie" was incorrect of course. For anyone else reading this thread, you can absolutely remove mods mid playthrough providing you clean your game afterwards.

Thanks Mizaru, Parallax was the culprit.

[Ilja]

Originally posted by Nyuu:

"Yayie" was incorrect of course. For anyone else reading this thread, you can absolutely remove mods mid playthrough providing you clean your game afterwards.

Cleaning the save file only clears active entries. It does not remove script data from save files. Papyrus can call event that calls the data, which will break the save file. This can happen soon, or after 100 hours later in the game. It depends entirely when Papyrus calls the event.

There is no way to safely uninstall scripted mods from ongoing game. Period.

It is always safe to remove loose file texture replacements, because there are no scripts or world edits involved.

Edit: Some players might mistakenly think that this is safe for Skyrim, because we have options for this with Fallout 4.

Fallout 4 uses upgraded system and rotates script data far better than Skyrim does. It is not safe to remove scripted mods from FO4 either, but tools (like Fallrim tools) work far more reliably with that game than Skyrim LE or Skyrim SE.

[Hadley]

Still happens. Project Parallax Revived was the reason I crashed o.0