[SOLVED] Touring Carriage Bug

[Johnny Casey]

I use Extensible Follower Framework. (EFF)

Once I ride with the custom made follower. I had 4 followers in total. He sit in front of me. Nothing seriously happened.

Later I dismissed him 3 followers in total, and ride a carriage, now the seat that custom follower used to sit became an empty one, and there's only 3 of us at the carriage, one of the followers started to run after the carriage with feet like my pet dog, even though there is a spare seat.

Okay, something's f**ked up. Made a clean save(1), disabled the mod(=touring carriage)(2), made a clean save again(3), dismissed the custom follower without the mod(4), made a clean save(5), enabled the mod(6). - And still we had one spare seat that nobody seems to put their a** on it.

Fine, time to terminate this sh*t. Go back to the step (5), made a clean save, now I deleted this mod. And take a carriage without this mod(=basically fast travel), just to make sure nothing happened. And I downloaded the mod again. Guess what? doppelganger sh*t greeted me.

After that I decided 'Screw it' and deleted the mod again. Then I enabled it again, and it has same bug just like before.

What have I done wrong?

I decided not to use any carriage mod.

[dcitrigno]

More than likely EFF and the Carriage mod don't like each other, check with either or both mods to see what the Mod Author suggest in the way of a fix (usually they'll say which mods work best and which mods to avoid, you may be able to find a compatiblity patch, if neither of those work you may have to either ditch EFF and get a different Follower manament mod or else get rid of Touring Carriages and use Convient Horses.

[Uncle64]

Lets take this again.
You say clean save? How? There is nothing in Skyrim that can give you one "clean" save.

Eff and Touring Carriage should work fine.
So what have you done for making your game stable.
How have you installed your mods, what tool.
Have you sorted your mods whit LOOT and optional fine tuned your mod whit Wrye Bash?

And dont say bug when you remove and add mods, that is not bug, that is user error.

[Alkpaz]

WyreBash will also tell you if you have missing masters in your saves by making them colorful. This also occurs when you move files up and down, the color changes. Helpful if you can't recall where you last put an esp/esm.

[smr1957]

What Uncle said - this, from Arthmoor:
"3. There is no such thing as a clean save. It does not matter who tells you there is, it doesn't exist in Skyrim. You cannot remove any mod, not even the patch, without there being some data that's been permanently changed. Doing this repeatedly WILL damage your save and WILL eventually lead to it becoming corrupt and unusable. Bethesda's own developers have confirmed the only way to properly remove a mod is to load a save made BEFORE that mod was introduced into the game. If you started a new game with 10 mods installed, you're going to be stuck with those 10 forever."

Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch by Unofficial Patch Project Team - http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/71214/?
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posted @ 2:08, 8 Feb 2016 , stickied at 2:08, 8 Feb 2016

Also, what Alkpaz said.

[Johnny Casey]

It's funny how these guys are all talking about EFF and clean save which is probably has done nothing to do with it.
I'm starting to wonder if these guys even know I actually had a custom follower mod.
Please, focus on the island, not the apple in the tree that stands in the island.

[Alkpaz]

Okies.. enjoy debugging.

[Johnny Casey]

Originally posted by Alkpaz:

Okies.. enjoy debugging.

Ah, yes. You're one of the white-skin-big-eyes people who lacks the built-in human ability which is focusing on the certain subject, but you rather ignore everything else but you want, and like, and love to see. I forgot about that. How silly that I was trying to explain you with "focus on the island" quotes because obviously you're unable to understand its meaning. I was so stupid.

Okay, I'll try the easy way.
You see, if someone write down something, there's got to be something called 'point' - which means something very important and mainly the real subject for the post. In this case, the 'point' was 'custom follower mod'. That means, after all, 'custome follower mod' was causing problem. I should have write it down so you could understand and help the focusing. Sorry. My bad.

Now that I have clarified this whole 'point' of this post, shall we begin to discuss?

[Uncle64]

Since there are many custom followers I think we that have posted here do know about them.

Some of them do work whit EFF/Aft/FLP/UFO and some of them dont, since those named mods do wreck them.
And make them act as you describe.


I think Johnny here can find his issue him self.

[Johnny Casey]

Originally posted by Uncle64SwE:

Since there are many custom followers I think we that have posted here do know about them.

Some of them do work whit EFF/Aft/FLP/UFO and some of them dont, since those named mods do wreck them.
And make them act as you describe.


I think Johnny here can find his issue him self.

The issue is still bothering me even after I disabled the custom follower mod.
Do I need to go back to save where I was about to take a carriage with custom follower and disable from there? Because seeing others writing about clean save and crap I think I might have to do that.

[Uncle64]

Yea. You turned off one mod and now your game is in worse condition.
Why listen to me when the others in the tread did say the same thing.
You are alone. Beeing rude is not the best way to summon help.

[Johnny Casey]

Originally posted by Uncle64SwE:

Yea. You turned off one mod and now your game is in worse condition.
Why listen to me when the others in the tread did say the same thing.
You are alone. Beeing rude is not the best way to summon help.

You're right. My appology. I shouldn't be mad at someone who's here to help me.

[Johnny Casey]

Originally posted by Uncle64SwE:

Yea. You turned off one mod and now your game is in worse condition.
Why listen to me when the others in the tread did say the same thing.
You are alone. Beeing rude is not the best way to summon help.

Well, I loaded the old one where I was yet to ride a carriage with custom follower, but the problem is still happening he took a seat no matter what I do.
But when I loaded before I INSTALL the custom follower mod, it works. Too bad that was like 20 levels ago, so I'm not going back to that save.
You mentioned 'optional fine tuned your mod whit Wrye Bash', how do I do that? I just installed it and I don't know what to do.

[Mr.Hmm]

Are you using NMM or MO for mod managers?
You do use LOOT to make sure your load order is in the correct position right?

Could help knowing which mod manager you are using.

As for using Wrye Bash, if you are using Mod Organizer(MO) start Wrye Bash from within MO not outside.
In Wrye Bash if you see some mods having red names that means they are missing masters, you either do not have these master mods or you disabled them by mistakes.
In Wrye Bash there is a file called "Bashed Patch" I recommend to use it by Right Clicking -> Rebuild Bashed Patch.

[Johnny Casey]

Originally posted by Mr.Hmm:

Are you using NMM or MO for mod managers?
You do use LOOT to make sure your load order is in the correct position right?

Could help knowing which mod manager you are using.

As for using Wrye Bash, if you are using Mod Organizer(MO) start Wrye Bash from within MO not outside.
In Wrye Bash if you see some mods having red names that means they are missing masters, you either do not have these master mods or you disabled them by mistakes.
In Wrye Bash there is a file called "Bashed Patch" I recommend to use it by Right Clicking -> Rebuild Bashed Patch.

I do use LOOT to organize the load order, and I'm using NMM.
I looked up wrye bash but either the custom follower mod or touring carriage labled as red. they are all black. And Bashed Patch thingy has nothing to do with either of mods. It showed me some mergaeble mods but I can't find either of them.