Deor bugged (Skaal village)

[Under Your Bed]

Need to speak to this guy after finding the Nordic pickaxe, but I can't initiate dialogue. I'm assuming it's something to do with being able to have the BS skill to use Stahlrim.

Other than reloading a prevvious save which will cause me lose hours of progress, what else can I do? Console commands?

[smr1957]

From Bugs section http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Dragonborn:A_New_Source_of_Stalhrim

"If you talk to the two Skaal villagers discussing the disappearance of the village blacksmith before they have finished talking, you will be unable to interact with the male villager, Deor Woodcutter, thus making the quest unattainable.
-- If the quest fails to start, use Setstage DLC2SV02Misc 10 to kick it off."

[Under Your Bed]

Originally posted by smr1957:

From Bugs section http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Dragonborn:A_New_Source_of_Stalhrim

"If you talk to the two Skaal villagers discussing the disappearance of the village blacksmith before they have finished talking, you will be unable to interact with the male villager, Deor Woodcutter, thus making the quest unattainable.
-- If the quest fails to start, use Setstage DLC2SV02Misc 10 to kick it off."

Thanks!

[Under Your Bed]

Just been trying this multiple times & it doesn't work. I checked the link you provided, but I don't see what other option there is to try without messing up my game even more.

Anything else I can try?

I see the "10" is from the suggested level, but I'm lv56 so is that the problem? I did try typing 56 instead of 10.

There is something about completing a quest first called "At the Summit of Apochrypha" so checked a walkthrough video & I need to read a book to return there, but I don't have it? No where in my quest description does it say about reading a book nor do I remember how to get back to the location. All for some "Bend Will" shout.

[Under Your Bed]

Great. Another quest bugged. "Visit the hunters at frostmoon crag". Same ♥♥♥♥. Can't initiate dialogue.

[Mr. Monday]

The 10 isn't the suggested level, it's the stage of the quest. http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Dragonborn:A_New_Source_of_Stalhrim#Quest_Stages

As for the other quest and the shout, they're part of the main DB quest. Working on that will get you the shout and the books.

[Mr. Monday]

Originally posted by Axe Wound:

Great. Another quest bugged. "Visit the hunters at frostmoon crag". Same ♥♥♥♥. Can't initiate dialogue.

Explain in detail what is happening here, and post your load oder.

[smr1957]

Originally posted by Axe Wound:

Great. Another quest bugged. "Visit the hunters at frostmoon crag". Same ♥♥♥♥. Can't initiate dialogue.

Check Notes section http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Dragonborn:Visit_the_hunters_at_Frostmoon_Crag

[Under Your Bed]

I'm not sure why it seems that the entire DLC is bugged with glitches like missing textures, floors, walls, basically just like holes everywhere which the char can fall through.

I just tried to hand in a quest & as I travelled the screen went black then the game froze which I had to close in task manager.

Originally posted by Mr. Monday:

Originally posted by Axe Wound:

Great. Another quest bugged. "Visit the hunters at frostmoon crag". Same ♥♥♥♥. Can't initiate dialogue.

Explain in detail what is happening here, and post your load oder.

Nothing more to explain really. The name of the quest is there. I can't inititate dialogue. The person has a floating white arrow above his head just like Deor & just doesn't want to talk to me so I can't start the quest.

I'll post the load order if I can.

[Under Your Bed]

I can't copy paste the load order so I'm not gonna type out over 100 mods ha

[smr1957]

You are using LOOT, aren't you? When using mods, you need to download and use: LOOT - https://loot.github.io/

See: Load order and resource priority basics by Ilja - http://steamcommunity.com/app/72850/discussions/0/523890681419356033/ for info on how to use.

As to posting load order, just click on the 3 verticle dots in the upper right corner of LOOT screen, click on copy load order from the drop-down menu, and then paste.

[Under Your Bed]

0 0 Skyrim.esm
1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Dawnguard.esm
3 3 HearthFires.esm
4 4 Dragonborn.esm
5 5 HighResTexturePack01.esp
6 6 HighResTexturePack02.esp
7 7 HighResTexturePack03.esp
8 8 set_halloween16_sp0.esp
9 9 cleaner_castlevolkihar3.esp
10 a betterinns.esp
11 b immersive interiors.esp
12 c sos - the wilds.esp
13 d sos - civilization.esp
14 e WeightlessEverythingUltimate.esp
15 f Better Vampires.esp
16 10 quest - no stone unturned.esp
17 11 SkyUI.esp
18 12 spiders.esp
19 13 Animations.esp
20 14 dd - realistic ragdoll force - realistic.esp
21 15 realistic piercing arrows.esp
22 16 big_kill_moves_sp0.esp
23 17 art_argonian_2016_sp0.esp
24 18 azarhair.esp
25 19 cco - diverse races and genders.esp
26 1a cco - dynamic skill progression.esp
27 1b character creation overhaul.esp
28 1c better stealth ai for followers.esp
29 1d follower trap safety.esp
30 1e decapitationgore texture replacer.esp
31 1f bettercitiesjarlshouses.esp
32 20 ancient watchtowers.esp
33 21 sos - the dungeons.esp
34 22 SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp
35 23 fmstables.esp
36 24 bettermorthal.esp
37 25 breezehomelightfix.esp
38 26 marriable serana.esp
39 27 better blacksmithing.esp
40 28 art_breton_sp0.esp
41 29 smarter combat ai.esp
42 2a hdplants+herbs.esp
43 2b real mountains.esp
44 2c real glaciers remastered.esp
45 2d pureweather_brighter nights.esp
46 2e realrain.esp
47 2f purewaters.esp
48 30 saturationboost.esp
49 31 colored constellations.esp
50 32 mintylightningmod.esp
51 33 matsoimmersivesun.esp
52 34 hqsnow.esp
53 35 hqworkbenchandgrindstone.esp
54 36 armored circlets.esp
55 37 immersive torch versatile enhanced-no dlc required.esp
56 38 better embers.esp
57 39 bones and skeletons retexture.esp
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60 3c loud waterfalls.esp
61 3d BetterWolfHowl.esp
62 3e the woodcutter.esp
63 3f useablesawmill.esp
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65 41 dr_bandolier.esp
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67 43 arrowsmith-dawnguard.esp
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70 46 crimsonquestmarkers.esp
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72 48 Run For Your Lives.esp
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86 56 betterwinterhold.esp
87 57 tavesolitude.esp
88 58 riverwoodenhancedplugin.esp
89 59 Tarpan und takhi.esp
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91 5b No Weight For Potion Ingredients.esp
92 5c improvedglowingglowdust.esp
93 5d Waves.esp
94 5e whiterunexenhanced.esp
95 5f craftingplus.esp
96 60 moresmeltables.esp
97 61 rangers of skyrim.esp
98 62 taveriften.esp
99 63 marchanditinerant.esp
100 64 fishinginskyrim.esp
101 65 tavefalkreath.esp
102 66 Map Markers Complete.esp
103 67 Cartographers Map Markers.esp
104 68 ktxcompleteskyforge.esp
105 69 Alpha's Etheric Bow.esp
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109 6d campingkitnorthernranger.esp
110 6e civilwarcleanup.esp
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114 72 Better Training.esp
115 73 big_soulgem_mining_sp0.esp
116 74 a quality world map - with roads.esp
117 75 CRX.esp
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120 78 brat_merchants_sp0.esp
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123 7b clamsgivepearls.esp
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125 7d Pelts In High Demand.esp
126 7e improved container names.esp
127 7f LeftHandRings - Dawnguard.esp
128 80 LeftHandRings.esp
129 81 earlier health warnings.esp
130 82 big_armor_sneaking_sp0.esp
131 83 mammoth hide.esp
132 84 NoWeightForNormalPotions.esp
133 85 weightlessfirewood.esp
134 86 lockpickpro.esp
135 87 3 day respawn 1.1.esp
136 88 longerblessings.esp
137 89 reducedshouttimes.esp
138 8a SlowtimeSlower.esp
139 8b NoDisarm.esp
140 8c VL No AoE Drain.esp
141 8d whistle.esp

[smr1957]

And the problems you describe in post #8 are not due to the DLC, but are in all likelihood due to mod conflicts and/or improper installtion of mods. From the problems you describe as having, you will most probably have to make your game vanilla again, as the existing save files are probably riddled with errors and unuseable.

Things you need to read and do:

Player spreadsheet - Player and Modding Resources by Ilja http://steamcommunity.com/app/72850/discussions/0/594821545176386165/
VERY IMPORTANT if you wish to successfully mod your game

Resetting Skyrim to Vanilla or A Clean Reinstall by grimus - http://steamcommunity.com/app/72850/discussions/0/357285562484690267/

[smr1957]

At first look, I immediately saw this:
102 66 Map Markers Complete.esp
103 67 Cartographers Map Markers.esp

Not only is it 2 mods doing the same thing, one is listed on Nazenn's list of dangerous and outdated mods:
From Masterlist : Dangerous, Outdated and Superseded Mods by Nazenn
http://steamcommunity.com/app/72850/discussions/0/523890681422555089/

"The Cartographers Map Markers - Rating: Two (2) - Very unstable mostly due to lack of knowledge of good modding practices
Last version checked: 1.0
Replaced by: Atlas Map Markers (and it's patch)
http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/14976/? and http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/74045/?
Made before a lot of the safe modding practices were developed, this mod has an extreme number of ITMs that must be cleaned out with Tes5Edit, 281 as of the last version, and it also has no customization and some of the markers it adds are placed a little oddly and may require some fiddling to activate.
Atlas Map Markers has much better positioning of the markers, including more marker options and markers for more worldspaces, as well as being better put together and including a lot of customization for the player. Make sure you also grab the updated patch which introduces an MCM as well as some bug fixes."

http://steamcommunity.com/app/72850/discussions/0/523890681422555089/#c523890681422555738

[Under Your Bed]

Nice. Thanks for all the info & advice.

What I meant above about the DLC being bugged was not the DLC itself as such but the fact that it is mainly that specific DLC that I am ecountering the most amount of bugs in. So from what you say it seems that which ever mods are the cause of the conflicts that I'm experiencing are creating the most problems there.

I'm thinking it would be easier to buy the game again & start from fresh ha.

[smr1957]

Originally posted by Axe Wound:

Nice. Thanks for all the info & advice.

What I meant above about the DLC being bugged was not the DLC itself as such but the fact that it is mainly that specific DLC that I am ecountering the most amount of bugs in. So from what you say it seems that which ever mods are the cause of the conflicts that I'm experiencing are creating the most problems there.

I'm thinking it would be easier to buy the game again & start from fresh ha.

Well, that's why I linked griimus' post on resetting the game to vanilla - sometimes it is just better to start from scratch! (It's like the immediate and sharp pain of hitting your head once as opposed to the pain of continually banging your head against the wall over and over again.)

It's really tough having to give up all that gameplay time, but look at it as an ultra extended test run. (And once you got your game up and running, and have well over a thousand hours play time - well, what's a few hundred hours here or there?)