cant buy expert destruction spell

[Shakesphere]

so i got a mage level 63 with 97 destruction and i still cant buy any expert destruction spells.
i tried the court wizards but the results are the same
anybody can help me?

[SomeMMORPGplayer]

did oyu get the expert destruction perk and more importantly did yo find a mage who cn sell expert level spells?

[Shakesphere]

i have'nt got the perk and i tried the mages of winterhold

[Rez Elwin]

Faralda of Winterhold should sell all levels of destruction spells, did you just get to 97? It takes a few days for shops to restock. Do you have any mods that alter spells or shops?

[BlazeD]

You can only buy spells you have perks for. If you don't have 'expert' you can't buy 'expert' spells.

[alexander_dougherty]

Originally posted by BlazeD:

You can only buy spells you have perks for. If you don't have 'expert' you can't buy 'expert' spells.

Not true, I rarely invest in all the perks for magic skills, and have bought all the spells from mages college. You can but the spells without the perk, it's the skill level.

But top end spells require you to do the spell quests for the merchant, with faralda it's taking a book to various points in skyrim and hitting them with appropriate spell (fire spell, lightning spell, etc).
For top end Illusion spells you need to find four illusary books[/spoiler},] get a dagger and get heart scales off a dragon.

[Belanos]

Originally posted by BlazeD:

You can only buy spells you have perks for. If you don't have 'expert' you can't buy 'expert' spells.

That's not true at all, you only need to have enough skill points. The perks are irrelevant when it comes to buying the spells.

[Eisenfell]

Feralda ...
http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Faralda

... sells destruction spell books at the apropiate Skill Level. (no perks needed)

though her Master quest at 90 is buggy but fixes itself with a skill of 100

[HiTmAn]

expert spells u can buy only on lvl 100 and before u be able to buy it u need to do trial once u get lvl 100 go in winterhold second floor... right door female wizard sell it i forget name

[voehringer_nitron]

Originally posted by HiTmAn:

expert spells u can buy only on lvl 100 and before u be able to buy it u need to do trial once u get lvl 100 go in winterhold second floor... right door female wizard sell it i forget name

This is also false. Expert spells only require a skill level of 65.

Master spells require you to complete the ritual, which can be done at a skill level of 90. Faralda's dialogue (incorrectly) states a skill of 100. It is still 90, and this bug is fixed by the unofficial patch.

[Carl!!!!]

just wait in a different cell for 48 hours so the shops can restock. like inside the inn in winterholad.

[Bomb Bloke]

Originally posted by voehringer_nitron:

Faralda's dialogue (incorrectly) states a skill of 100.

Er, not exactly. NPCs don't discuss skill points.

[Shakesphere]

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[Hawk Firestorm]

If I remember correctly you have to complete the Master Level quests for each field to get them.

[alexander_dougherty]

Originally posted by voehringer_nitron:

Originally posted by HiTmAn:

expert spells u can buy only on lvl 100 and before u be able to buy it u need to do trial once u get lvl 100 go in winterhold second floor... right door female wizard sell it i forget name

This is also false. Expert spells only require a skill level of 65.

Master spells require you to complete the ritual, which can be done at a skill level of 90. Faralda's dialogue (incorrectly) states a skill of 100. It is still 90, and this bug is fixed by the unofficial patch.

Ah yes, getting master and expert spells mixed up, but op should have been able to buy those spells ages ago, not sure why he/she can't.

You can use commands to add the spells, but that might cause glitches (not sure but it might, or might not). So perhaps the best way around is to use player.additem to add the spell books, and read them.
Player.additem is pretty much proven to be glitch free, so that would be safest way.

[Shakesphere]

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