What happens to Ralof or Hadvar after Helgen?

[Keijo]

One thing I've always wondered about Skyrim is what happens to Ralof or Hadvar after Helgen?
They both head towards the Helgen keep but if you go with Ralof, you never see Hadvar again but if you go with Hadvar you never see Ralof again.
Both paths cross at the very entrance of the Helgen keep but yet you never see the other person.
With Ralof you fight 2 Imperial soldiers at the entrance but neither of them are Hadvar. And with Hadvar you fight 2 Stormcloaks at the entrance but neither of them are Ralof.
So what happened?!
What do you just go into the keep with one person and then the other one just gets killed by Alduin immediately after?

[ELF EYES]

hadvar went to the empiriels to join up in the war visaversa but if you goto the inn and wait their you will see them befor the war or after it

[cocodojo]

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Hadvar sat at home (I went with him) pretty much most of the time hiding out, so my guess is Ralof probably did the same thing somewhere in Skyrim.

Then at a later time, they snuck out to either camps or HQ and you run into them again later in the game. So basically, at the fort, you don't exactly see the other go inside, so maybe the odd one out never went inside Helgen with you and the one guy you chose, but maybe slipped out via one of the gates?

After Helgen got destroyed, they both went hiding for a time until they had a chance to hear of what happens to thier faction and eventually left to join up. I think you see them sometime during the civil war mess?

[Eternie]

They both survive helgen ... both live in riverwood and both know each other but are on opposing sides. Just restart the game and follow the other one to find out. Also instead of running off settle in with their family

You will meet the one you escaped with as you start the civil war mess of quests. You will be tasked with getting the Jagged Crown. If you use the same side in the war Hadver or Ralof will be incharge of the soldiers there.

Which use to give you a chance of getting a copy of the Jagged crown for yourself!
... by reverse pickpocketing it into their inventory. Then returning to Ulfric / or Tullius and reporting you have the crown. Later after the quest you were able to retrieve the crown from Hadver / Ralof.

After all the dragonborn should wear it!

[Justice]

Have you even followed Ralof after Helgen attack? He lives in Riverwood where you will come. His Ralof's family even give you a key of their house and you can meet him there again

[gnewna]

Presumably, whichever you don't go with decides to double back to their leader (Tullius or Ulfric), or escapes some other way. Both evidently survive, as you meet one of them during the civil war, regardless of whether you pick the same side as the one you escaped Helgen with.

[Keijo]

Originally posted by Justice:

Have you even followed Ralof after Helgen attack? He lives in Riverwood where you will come. His Ralof's family even give you a key of their house and you can meet him there again

You and the comment above yours don't understand the question.
What happens to the person you DON'T escape Helgen with.
Like if you go with Ralof, Ralof will go to Riverwood but Hadvar won't. Hadvar would just be gone.

[hawkeye]

Rockfall in the cave.

[gnewna]

Originally posted by Sketchy Mane:

Originally posted by Justice:

Have you even followed Ralof after Helgen attack? He lives in Riverwood where you will come. His Ralof's family even give you a key of their house and you can meet him there again

You and the comment above yours don't understand the question.
What happens to the person you DON'T escape Helgen with.
Like if you go with Ralof, Ralof will go to Riverwood but Hadvar won't. Hadvar would just be gone.

Originally posted by gnewna:

Presumably, whichever you don't go with decides to double back to their leader (Tullius or Ulfric), or escapes some other way. Both evidently survive, as you meet one of them during the civil war, regardless of whether you pick the same side as the one you escaped Helgen with.

We don't see them immediately after Helgen, any more than we see Tullius, Ulfric, or Elenwen. But evidently they canonically both survive, because you will encounter the relevant one during Civil War quests, even if you join the opposite side to whomever you escaped Helgen with.

[gnewna]

That is to say, if you go with Ralof but join the Imperial Legion then you will eventually encounter Hadvar, and vice versa. So clearly they both survive.

[Keijo]

Originally posted by gnewna:

That is to say, if you go with Ralof but join the Imperial Legion then you will eventually encounter Hadvar, and vice versa. So clearly they both survive.

OH YEAH! I forgot about that. Yeah you meet Hadvar or Ralof in the quest for the Jagged Crown despite who you escape Helgen with.
Hmmm.
But now I wonder...if the other person didn't lay low in Riverwood...then where DID they go?

[naru]

The guy you choose hangs out in Riverwood, the other goes into hiding and shows up in the civil war AFTER the Jagged Crown quest.
Also the guy you chosen will get a promotion and appear in the Jagged Crown quest if you side with his faction.

[Love]

Everyone here talking about the one you escape with it's ridiculous... either way I feel it's just up to speculation and theory. My personal theory is that when you enter the other one ends up blocked out. Immediately after you enter the keep both entrances are sealed (being either one you enter with Ralof or Hadvar), and shows the test "something is blocking the door" or something to that extent. I think the other one see's you enter and either fumes for a second or some for a hesitation, which results in the other one you didn't enter with being on the other side of the door when they get blocked. Honestly given the fact they know each other and are very similar (sharing alot of dialogue in the escape of the keep) I think it was something like this.

-Player enters keep with Ralof/Hadvar (whoever got choosen)-
Hadvar/Ralof (who didn't): For gods' sake-! Ugh! -moves to follow after the player and childhood friend giving in only to be blocked off by one of Alduin's attack forcing them to find a new way out of Helgen.

This idea is mostly due to the line's

Hadvar: Ralof you damn traitor! Out of my way!!
Ralod: We're escaping here Hadvar. You're not stopping us this time!
Hadvar: Fine I hope that dragon takes you all to Sovengard.

This to me shows that while they are still enemies now they still have a sense of respect to one another as both of their lines are more "hey stay out of my way" than they are "I ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ HATE YOU"

[vladkornea]

The Stormcloak says disdainfully "the Empire and their damned lists", which means that when the captain orders your execution, she's going against Imperial policy. Though Hadvar obeys her orders, he dislikes it and helps you as soon as he gets a chance. If the Stormcloaks had been the ones to capture you, your head would probably be on the chopping block just because you're not one of them, and none of them would care that you're not on a damned list.

[alexander_dougherty]

Originally posted by Sketchy Mane:

Originally posted by gnewna:

That is to say, if you go with Ralof but join the Imperial Legion then you will eventually encounter Hadvar, and vice versa. So clearly they both survive.

OH YEAH! I forgot about that. Yeah you meet Hadvar or Ralof in the quest for the Jagged Crown despite who you escape Helgen with.
Hmmm.
But now I wonder...if the other person didn't lay low in Riverwood...then where DID they go?

Who says they weren't in Riverwood, both parties would be keeping a low profile, possibly staying in the respective house and not going out at all, easy to miss each other.

[seriousthree]

There are plenty of other ideas they could have made quests for that simply vanish, or were never completed.Both of these survive even if the one you did not choose to go with should have died.

I like going with Ralof to kill the imperial officer who wanted me dead. With Hadvar you have the option of backtracking a bit and backstabbing the Imperial torturer.