Under Saarthal not starting

[The Void]

I've completed First Lessons, tried using console to start it, tried killing Tolfdir and enabling/disabling him and nothing is working. mod list here: https://pastebin.com/gdbJHr6x

[The Void]

bump

[Uncle64]

You should sort your left side in MO. It is one mess.

You did also forget to give us your right side in MO.
I assume that you have used stand alone LOOT to sort it?

Start by do that, make sure that you load the save before you try to start the quest.

[The Void]

I don't know how to give the right side, and the save before the quest is the start of my game and i'm now level 30, I didn't notice it until I went back to do it T^T

[Uncle64]

Easy.
MO have those files in your MO profiles.
They are called.
Loadorder.txt is the right side
Modlist.txt is your left side.

Copy the text from the file Loadorder.txt and paste it here.

About your save, do you say that you play whit auto saves only?
Not hard saves?

[smr1957]

If you don't have a save from before you killed Toldir and then used the console on him, then you will HAVE to start a new game, or completely give up on ever doing any quests at all for the College of Winterhold faction, as he is the quest giver for the first few quests in that faction. Explanation as follows:

"Console is a debug tool. It does not pass event and AI scripts, or undo scripts that have been already been ran. I have stressed several times that using resurrect is among those commands that you should never use in Skyrim.

If the character you resurrected was dead, then using the command does not undo death scripts that have already been ran. Game AI gets confused and in 99% of cases you will just have a no-good character wandering around. In worse cases, death scritps will have run other scripts and suddenly "alive" character starts to cause conflicts in the game.

If the character you "resurrected" is alive (and in this case a quest character), then scripts affecting to this character now has double targets, messing up the game AI royally.

Load a save from before using unsafe console command. Do not try to undo it in any other way, because Skyrim stores script data to save files and there is absolutely no way to clean them 100% from them. Even Bethesda didn't manage to do so." - Ilja

http://steamcommunity.com/app/72850/discussions/0/451848854985133583/

"If you don't know what you're doing, using console commands can cause your game to malfunction! Executing the wrong command can cause your game to stop working normally; furthermore, you may not become aware of such malfunctions right away, and you may not be able to trace their cause. They can cause problems like making quests impossible to complete, altering your game's display, all kinds of game behaviors, your ability to play your character, and your ability to play the game at all. Solutions are not always easy, and may involve losing saved games or reinstalling your game.
Create a permanent saved game before using the console. (This mitigates only some kinds of risks.) If you need to use the console to fix a glitch, try to use the least powerful command possible." cited by cfs111
Mini tutorial on the console here;
General Discussion and Tutorial Pages
http://steamcommunity.com/app/72850/discussions/0/485622866435280490/

http://steamcommunity.com/app/72850/discussions/0/451848854987583992/#c451848855002328904

Resurrecting Named Characters
"You should never resurrect any named characters in Skryim. Game runs death scripts for each of them. Using resurrect command does not undo these scripts and there is no known way to reverse them.

Resurrecting character that has death script records in save file usually ends up badly. In best case scenario you get a useless NPC that is not tied to any quest and is cut out of the progress. In worse case scenario you get NPC that is comes constantly more and more bugged, tangling game scripts even further and ends up making a real mess out of your game.

Resurrect is among commands that has been classed as dangerous and should not be used in a game. It is a developer test command and should be treated as such. If you already made a mistake of using that command, then load a save before that." - Ilja

http://steamcommunity.com/app/72850/discussions/0/405692758710158199/#c405692758710646756

See also:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/72850/discussions/0/451848854987583992/#c451848855002328904

http://steamcommunity.com/app/72850/discussions/0/451848854985133583/

http://steamcommunity.com/app/72850/discussions/0/351660338700199057/#c351660338700279973

http://steamcommunity.com/app/72850/discussions/0/351660338700199057/#c351660338700216175

REGARDING RECYCLEACTOR:

"Recycleactor does refresh the character, but as far as I know, it does not undo death scripts.

I can't see why it would, seeing that it basically just restores the character. That character may be "refreshed", but death scripts and stand-in triggers should still be active." - Ilja

http://steamcommunity.com/app/72850/discussions/0/405692758710158199/#c405692758710784953

[The Void]

yeugh, so I gotta restart? great, but I suppose i'm gonna have to, it's fine I guess, but annoying, thanks for the help anyways

[Uncle64]

But you need to solve your left side first in MO, or you will run in to other issues.

[The Void]

how do I solve it easily?

[Uncle64]

It is not that easy to solve.
But start by sorting your right side whit Stand-alone LOOT. Dont use the one that comes whit MO.
After that you must manually sort your left side so it match up whit the right side.
The left side is basic the installation order of your mods.

[The Void]

Alright will do