Dustborn

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Lord Tony Sep 30, 2024 @ 2:24pm
so the dustborn song, umm.
there is a line in the song that says "we're the new porn"

what do they mean by this? :yaranaika:

I thought it was a typo but they do it twice.
Last edited by Lord Tony; Sep 30, 2024 @ 2:25pm
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Black_Fox Sep 30, 2024 @ 3:16pm 
I mean R34 contradics that, given it has 4 entries
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soph Sep 30, 2024 @ 3:38pm 
'We're the Dustborn, we're the new porn, we're the new borns' is the lyrics iirc

Important context, since you haven't played the game: The crew of main cast are at this point wanted criminals, pretending to be a punk band so they can sneak across borders inside a divided states of america (federal govt gone, balkanized US), acting as if they are on a music tour. They end up leaving for the 'tour' a day early when their heist goes wrong. The plan was to steal an AI from a group of technoreligious fascists in San Francisco (themed after Apple I think) (yes they are actually really fascist in their portrayal, they arent just shown to be homophobic or something, they have work/death camps filled with lifelong slaves to make their tech - its dystopic portrayal of potential future of silicon valley big-tech, they aren't Christian, they worship a computer, put your pitchforks down). The technoreligious fascists are also rabid anti-mutants on the surface, but secretly abuse and exploit mutants as prisoners to expand their power.

(This world has superpower mutants very akin to X-Men. They all came to be mutated after some event called 'THE BROADCAST' happened years ago. We never learn much about THE BROADCAST, but this is where the main casts superpowers come from. All the powers are voice related.)

The scene just before this song, on the 'tour' bus on the way to the border, and the 'band' starts talking about how they don't like how mutants like themselves are referred to as 'Deviants' or 'Anomals', and they wish they had a cooler name. Like the X-Men, directly quoted. I forget who, but one of the members says 'The name Dustborn would be cool', then someone else says 'That's cringe, really??' and someone else says 'I like it, that should also be the name of our band!'. Okay then.

Then the bus stops and they abruptly have to play a song for the border patrol to convince them that 'Dustborn' is a real punk band on a real tour. Apparently. They improvise the song, including lyrics, coming up with everything on the spot, despite not being musicians.

Its as rushed and contrived a plot point as almost any other part of the the first 2 chapters, but its supposed to be a comic book and it gets much better after about chapter 3 imo

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Now all the important context included, lets do a line by line breakdown:

'We're the Dustborn'
They are saying: "We are a punk band made up of those superpower mutants everyone considers to be dangerous freaks. We call ourselves 'Dustborn', not Deviants or Anomals."

'We're the new porn'
They are saying: "We Dustborn inspire reactionary pushback, get labelled as deviants and anomalous, and then get outlawed. That's kind of similar to porn, which inspires a similar pushback with its existence. And also, I forgot I'd have to improvise a rhyme with Dustborn and I'm really nervous and this is the first thing my brain came up with."

'We're the new born'
They are saying: "We mutants may be new on this world stage, but our story is only just beginning. Also I forgot I had to improvise a rhyme AGAIN and this is really what my brain came up with??'

If you play the QTE poorly during this song, afterwards, other members of the crew tease the singer for improvising those lyrics. Either way, the border patrol agents get depicted as wholesome guys who like live punk music and love their country, the crew get let across the border, and the 2nd chapter starts. Half the 1st chapter is like this: silly, provocative jokes meant to draw the ire of triggerable reactionaries addicted to outrage, between rushed plot setup.

The songs and lyrics get noticeably better later on, when they start actually sitting down to write and practice together at campsites. The game is also much better paced, once the world is established (The JFKxMarilynMonroe stuff is interesting), the consequences for using voice powers start happening, and ME-EM Machine Ghost Hunting are worked in. :actime:
Last edited by soph; Oct 1, 2024 @ 3:32am
Lord Tony Sep 30, 2024 @ 3:39pm 
Originally posted by soph:
'We're the Dustborn, we're the new porn, we're the new borns' is the lyrics iirc

Important context, since you haven't played the game: The crew of main cast are at this point wanted criminals, pretending to be a punk band so they can sneak across borders inside a divided states of america (federal govt gone, balkanized US), acting as if they are on a music tour. They end up leaving for the 'tour' a day early when their heist goes wrong. The plan was to steal an AI from a group of technoreligious fascists in San Francisco (themed after Apple I think) (yes they are actually really fascist in their portrayal, they arent just shown to be homophobic or something, they have work/death camps filled with lifelong slaves to make their tech - its dystopic portrayal of potential future of silicon valley big-tech, they aren't Christian, they worship a computer, put your pitchforks down). The technoreligious fascists are also rabid anti-mutants on the surface, but secretly abuse and exploit mutants as prisoners to expand their power.

(This world has superpower mutants very akin to X-Men. They all came to be mutated after some event called 'THE BROADCAST' happened years ago. We never learn much about THE BROADCAST, but this is where the main casts superpowers come from. All the powers are voice related.)

The scene just before this song, on the 'tour' bus on the way to the border, and the 'band' starts talking about how they don't like how mutants like themselves are referred to as 'Deviants' or 'Anomals', and they wish they had a cooler name. Like the X-Men, directly quoted. I forget who, but one of the members says 'The name Dustborn would be cool', then someone else says 'That's cringe, really??' and someone else says 'I like it, that should also be the name of our band!'. Okay then.

Then the bus stops and they abruptly have to play a song for the border patrol to convince them that 'Dustborn' is a real punk band on a real tour. Apparently. They improvise the song, including lyrics, coming up with everything on the spot, despite not being musicians.

Its as rushed and contrived a plot point as almost any other part of the the first 2 chapters, but its supposed to be a comic book and it gets much better after about chapter 3 imo

--

Now all the important context included, lets do a line by line breakdown:

'We're the Dustborn'
They are saying: "We are a punk band made up of those superpower mutants everyone considers to be dangerous freaks. We call ourselves 'Dustborn', not Deviants or Anomals."

'We're the new porn'
They are saying: "We Dustborn inspire reactionary pushback, get labelled as deviants and anomalous, and then get outlawed. We think that is similar to the relationship , and also, I forgot I'd have to improvise a rhyme with Dustborn and I'm really nervous and this is the first thing my brain came up with."

'We're the new born'
They are saying: "We mutants be new on this world stage, but our story is only just beginning. Also I forgot I had to improvise a rhyme AGAIN and this is really what my brain came up with??'

If you play the QTE poorly during this song, afterwards, other members of the crew tease the singer for improvising those lyrics, and the 2nd chapter starts. Half the 1st chapter is like this: silly, provocative jokes meant to draw the ire of triggerable reactionaries addicted to outrage, between rushed plot setup.

The game is much better paced once the world is established (The JFKxMarilynMonroe stuff is interesting), the consequences for using voice powers start happening, and ME-EM Machine Ghost Hunting are worked in. :actime:

it's not that deep
soph Sep 30, 2024 @ 3:43pm 
Originally posted by Lord Tony Prime TTV:
Originally posted by soph:
'We're the Dustborn, we're the new porn, we're the new borns' is the lyrics iirc

Important context, since you haven't played the game: The crew of main cast are at this point wanted criminals, pretending to be a punk band so they can sneak across borders inside a divided states of america (federal govt gone, balkanized US), acting as if they are on a music tour. They end up leaving for the 'tour' a day early when their heist goes wrong. The plan was to steal an AI from a group of technoreligious fascists in San Francisco (themed after Apple I think) (yes they are actually really fascist in their portrayal, they arent just shown to be homophobic or something, they have work/death camps filled with lifelong slaves to make their tech - its dystopic portrayal of potential future of silicon valley big-tech, they aren't Christian, they worship a computer, put your pitchforks down). The technoreligious fascists are also rabid anti-mutants on the surface, but secretly abuse and exploit mutants as prisoners to expand their power.

(This world has superpower mutants very akin to X-Men. They all came to be mutated after some event called 'THE BROADCAST' happened years ago. We never learn much about THE BROADCAST, but this is where the main casts superpowers come from. All the powers are voice related.)

The scene just before this song, on the 'tour' bus on the way to the border, and the 'band' starts talking about how they don't like how mutants like themselves are referred to as 'Deviants' or 'Anomals', and they wish they had a cooler name. Like the X-Men, directly quoted. I forget who, but one of the members says 'The name Dustborn would be cool', then someone else says 'That's cringe, really??' and someone else says 'I like it, that should also be the name of our band!'. Okay then.

Then the bus stops and they abruptly have to play a song for the border patrol to convince them that 'Dustborn' is a real punk band on a real tour. Apparently. They improvise the song, including lyrics, coming up with everything on the spot, despite not being musicians.

Its as rushed and contrived a plot point as almost any other part of the the first 2 chapters, but its supposed to be a comic book and it gets much better after about chapter 3 imo

--

Now all the important context included, lets do a line by line breakdown:

'We're the Dustborn'
They are saying: "We are a punk band made up of those superpower mutants everyone considers to be dangerous freaks. We call ourselves 'Dustborn', not Deviants or Anomals."

'We're the new porn'
They are saying: "We Dustborn inspire reactionary pushback, get labelled as deviants and anomalous, and then get outlawed. We think that is similar to the relationship , and also, I forgot I'd have to improvise a rhyme with Dustborn and I'm really nervous and this is the first thing my brain came up with."

'We're the new born'
They are saying: "We mutants be new on this world stage, but our story is only just beginning. Also I forgot I had to improvise a rhyme AGAIN and this is really what my brain came up with??'

If you play the QTE poorly during this song, afterwards, other members of the crew tease the singer for improvising those lyrics, and the 2nd chapter starts. Half the 1st chapter is like this: silly, provocative jokes meant to draw the ire of triggerable reactionaries addicted to outrage, between rushed plot setup.

The game is much better paced once the world is established (The JFKxMarilynMonroe stuff is interesting), the consequences for using voice powers start happening, and ME-EM Machine Ghost Hunting are worked in. :actime:

it's not that deep

The line is 90 minutes deep into a Red Thread VN you haven't played. Just because you won't understand something, doesn't mean it isn't there. You're welcome to be as willfully ignorant as you please, but you only look delusional projecting it onto others.
Unknown Samurai Sep 30, 2024 @ 6:14pm 
Originally posted by Lord Tony Prime TTV:
there is a line in the song that says "we're the new porn"

what do they mean by this? :yaranaika:

I thought it was a typo but they do it twice.
Porn has a second meaning.
Sem56 Sep 30, 2024 @ 7:27pm 
Originally posted by Unknown Samurai:
Originally posted by Lord Tony Prime TTV:
there is a line in the song that says "we're the new porn"

what do they mean by this? :yaranaika:

I thought it was a typo but they do it twice.
Porn has a second meaning.

which is? i keep seeing this mentioned but nobody seems to know what that is
Lord Tony Sep 30, 2024 @ 9:15pm 
Like if they want to turn porn woke, I'm sorry but that's a losing battle.

Goodluck with that.
Unknown Samurai Sep 30, 2024 @ 10:02pm 
Originally posted by Sem56:
Originally posted by Unknown Samurai:
Porn has a second meaning.

which is? i keep seeing this mentioned but nobody seems to know what that is
television programmes, magazines, books, etc. that are regarded as emphasizing the sensuous or sensational aspects of a non-sexual subject and stimulating a compulsive interest in their audience.

Oh and if you want to know my opinion on it: https://steamcommunity.com/app/721180/discussions/0/7428213499287683412/
Last edited by Unknown Samurai; Sep 30, 2024 @ 10:06pm
Lord Tony Sep 30, 2024 @ 11:17pm 
I think the song just means they are going to replace us even in porn.
Sem56 Oct 1, 2024 @ 12:06am 
Originally posted by Unknown Samurai:
Originally posted by Sem56:

which is? i keep seeing this mentioned but nobody seems to know what that is
television programmes, magazines, books, etc. that are regarded as emphasizing the sensuous or sensational aspects of a non-sexual subject and stimulating a compulsive interest in their audience.

Oh and if you want to know my opinion on it: https://steamcommunity.com/app/721180/discussions/0/7428213499287683412/

yeah fair
GLOTCH Oct 2, 2024 @ 1:15am 
Originally posted by Lord Tony Prime TTV:
there is a line in the song that says "we're the new porn"

what do they mean by this? :yaranaika:

I thought it was a typo but they do it twice.

Dey r the new tub girl
markus.quatember Oct 2, 2024 @ 5:20am 
I thought, „new Porn“ in this context means we are the „new hot sh*t“ like „This new iPhone is really porn“.

But maybe its just a cheap rhyme on „born“ :)
$CRWD Oct 2, 2024 @ 10:01am 
Americans have been failed by their government, broader society, healthcare system and educational system. They need to be spoonfed the meaning to a punk rock song on the internet, they need to be told basic facts about history, basic facts about politics, about media literacy.

I hope the international community is ready to behold the consequences of a nation of people like this that is simultaneously the most armed, & nuclear while being the least competitively educated. Even if these users represent a vocal minority, they represent a broader, existential, trend which data corroborates.
Last edited by $CRWD; Oct 2, 2024 @ 10:02am
P1nkLem0n4d3 Oct 2, 2024 @ 12:23pm 
It means "Oh we're popular." It's really bad writing though.
Last edited by P1nkLem0n4d3; Oct 2, 2024 @ 12:23pm
Perseus Oct 3, 2024 @ 3:49am 
So they are new born and also new porn. Those two words don't go along very well in the same sentence (except if you're a progressive activist of course, because you know "love is love")
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