Hilda's hat and Grapefruit hat

[veresk8976]

Does anyone know where to find these hats?

[Sakhari]

The Grapefruit Hat is given to you by Isabelle in the prologue section. You may need to talk to her elsewhere first but she should show up and give it to you just outside of the cave exit after the Broodmother fight (she did for me, anyway). I'm going from memory so pardon me if that's a little vague.

Supposedly, Hilda's Hat is given to you by Hilda in the mill once you've triggered the end-game scenario. I haven't gotten this far yet myself since the update so I can't confirm but if true, you may need to have completed her questline first.

[veresk8976]

I can say that Hilda does not give it to me at the mill. But the end-game scenario was started before the last update, perhaps this is the case and she is already there without a hat

[nxlmoz]

Originally posted by veresk8976:

I can say that Hilda does not give it to me at the mill. But the end-game scenario was started before the last update, perhaps this is the case and she is already there without a hat

Sorry, we didn't add Hilda's hat back till the very end of the update. We will check how we can fix it here.

[veresk8976]

Originally posted by nxlmoz:

Originally posted by veresk8976:

I can say that Hilda does not give it to me at the mill. But the end-game scenario was started before the last update, perhaps this is the case and she is already there without a hat

Sorry, we didn't add Hilda's hat back till the very end of the update. We will check how we can fix it here.

"till the very end of the update" - what do you mean by that?

[glenn3e]

I just got Hilda’s hat after the sky turns red in the story.

[Doesnotcompute83]

Originally posted by glenn3e:

I just got Hilda’s hat after the sky turns red in the story.

I was going to say the same thing.; I am doing a bad ending run where I gave the cubes to the doctor - and where Hilda abandoned me at the front of the Asylum - only to find Hilda at Maye Hall in the workshop. That is when I received the hat.

[Ghost-Tank]

On my initial playthrough I'm still working on collecting things, I used the three cubic crystals myself to open the Giantwood and Hilda gave me her hat in the Maye Hall workshop. I initially got the worst ending. Then I got the two other ocarinas and got the best ending on the same playthrough. I loaded an earlier save to give the crystals to Doctor for the achievement and see what happens then. Obviously NOT the most correct choice, heh.

[Doesnotcompute83]

Originally posted by Ghost-Tank:

On my initial playthrough I'm still working on collecting things, I used the three cubic crystals myself to open the Giantwood and Hilda gave me her hat in the Maye Hall workshop. I initially got the worst ending. Then I got the two other ocarinas and got the best ending on the same playthrough. I loaded an earlier save to give the crystals to Doctor for the achievement and see what happens then. Obviously NOT the most correct choice, heh.

True. I did it because I knew that I had to replay it for the good ending and would to try it by putting it into the giant after I load up an earlier save. I find it interesting that giving it to the doctor kips a dungeon and likely makes him harder - I ended up getting the good ending in the same save that I did my bad endings on, but I did played the giant tree dungeon after I got the good ending; I stopped at the Maye Hall underground dungeon, though I will beat that on Monday.

[boppagibbz]

Is the grapefruit hat for certain given by Isabelle? Cause I did all the quests on a playthrough after the update and never got it. Guess I have to go through the game yet again. Also, where do you get the top hat and cicada mask?

[Sakhari]

Originally posted by boppagibbz:

Is the grapefruit hat for certain given by Isabelle?

Yes, I've received it from her twice now. I don't know if it's a requirement but I talked to her first when she was standing on a ledge outside of Maye. Then, after defeating the Broodmother and leaving the cave through the break-able wall, she was standing right outside of that cave. After talking to her there, she gives you the hat. I don't think it's related to a quest. It's just a random conversation.

As for the other two hats, I honestly don't remember where I picked up the Top Hat. I 'think' the Cicada Wing mask was in a chest in the Giantwood but I'm not 100% on that either. I just remember not finding it until fairly late in the game.

[boppagibbz]

Thanks! Maybe I didn’t go out after brood mother and went back to the secret cave checkpoint to teleport. Someone mentioned the cicada mask as a new item and forgot it was one of the old masks I already had. Still need top hat and there is a weapon(?) called Life Debt that shows up on loading screens I’ve yet to find

[Sakhari]

Originally posted by boppagibbz:

Life Debt that shows up on loading screens I’ve yet to find

Life Debt is an Arcane item that hurts you to reduce the cooldowns on other items. I think that one is in a hidden area of the Cemetery. Arcane items don't show up with the exploration spell like normal items do so you'll have to dig around for it a bit. If I remember correctly, you can find the hidden chamber by doing a slide under some stairs on the right side of the area.

One more note about the hat - I'm pretty sure that was in a chest (and didn't drop from an enemy) so worst case, you should be able to find it by checking previous areas with the Exploration spell and cleaning up the chests you haven't picked up yet.

Someone mentioned the cicada mask as a new item and forgot it was one of the old masks I already had.

Yeah, I had it on my list in the other thread about new items. I was comparing what I had to the wiki and it wasn't listed there so I figured it was new.

[boppagibbz]

Thanks a ton. Noticed the life debt spell looks really close to the bloody stamp spell and does close to the same thing. Is it new with bounty of the night? I had 30 spells and thought I had found them all before the update

[Sakhari]

I don't think Life Debt is new - I remember that area in the Cemetery from the first time I played a few months ago and I'm pretty sure I had it back then too.

It's probably just one of those items that's easy to forget about if you didn't immediately think it was great and start using it. There's a lot of those (like the Top Hat, for example) for me in this game.

[boppagibbz]

It was new in my inventory. Maybe I somehow never found it. I also found the ceremonial sword in the cemetery a minute ago and guessing it’s new since it wasn’t in my inventory. If it is new that means I have 30 new weapons since bounty. 12 new rings. 4 new masks. 16 new hats. I think the vines, stones, and incense that increase your stats in the inventory are new. And the ptyalolith from the other god that gives you a free level up rounds up the new stuff. That makes 66 new items altogether.