Don't gift a tool to a follower...

[vindicar]

Apparently, in occult math 5+4=6.
A scar - a frigging scar - is more useful than that scheisse.

[Jade Kitsune]

An 8 Aspect gift gave my follower +2. Not sure if a 12 Aspect gift will give +3 or +4...

Gifts, it says, combat Resentment, so that's one reason to give a gift anyway.

[vindicar]

Isn't it easier to not allow Resentment to appear in first place?
So far I know only one and a half possible sources - failing an affair (and there is no reason to even have one in first place!) and maaaaybe Rite of Mother's Mercy (description sounds like the assistant will probably survive - I would be pissed then).

[Maina]

Any injuries also give Resentment. Which you may or may not want to do intentionally, since Scars give an Aspect boost, too.

[vindicar]

Originally posted by Maina:

Any injuries also give Resentment. Which you may or may not want to do intentionally, since Scars give an Aspect boost, too.

They do? Never happened to me in the last playthrough - neither from Expeditions nor from failed attempts to remove Evidence. There were quite a lot of scars... Are you sure you healed your followers with Talk?

[Maina]

I've definitely had an injured follower with resentment who was not involved in a relationship in any way, though it's really hard to find what does and does not create Resentment, even if one looks at the game files. It does appear to mostly come from being a ♥♥♥♥ either to your lover or your already-existing rivals.

Anyway, as to OP's statement: There are three levels of Tools that can be gifted. 4, 8, and 12 Aspect. These give +1, +2, and +3 respectively, per (again) digging into the files.

A +3 gift is enough to make a single Disciple capable of managing most summons of their Aspect, though I think I'd rather have the 12 tool as a general rule, instead.

[bridgeofblues]

It's kind of nice to have build resentments out of other ways besides sleeping with them. Obviously that compound's it.

[Winjin]

What's the point of having around tools that do not belong to your own cult? If you're a Grail, what good are Lantern items to you? But a follower with a higher level of an item is a great thing. You can't promote your Disciple of another school, but with this gift he will be almost as powerful as a Seer. I mean a Disciple is 5, and with a gift it's 8, like the greater conjured monsters.

[Maina]

Summons and rites, obviously. As said earlier in the thread. That's the main reason tools exist at all, particularly before Gifting tools was a thing.

There's almost no reason to ever bother with 8 in an Aspect, and Gifting a 12 tool to a Follower to get them to 8 is a massive waste. Almost everything in the game is gated to 1, 5, and 10, and so there is no difference between 5 and 8. The only real exception is Snare creation, which is 0, 3, 7, 10.

[LSD]

You get resentment if they go to trial but get off without jail, too.

[cecoates]

Gifting tools to boost their natural aspect seems like a waste, but tools of another aspect are a great way to set yourself up with specific followers that can help with your summons.

Since every summons requires 2 of something, you can, let's say, gift an 8 edge tool to your key.

Suddenly, now all you need is 1 lore of specific strength and your key to summon a Hint, Percussigant, or Maid-in-the-Mirror.

Scars can help, sure, but you can only get knock, edge, and winter. If you have a Forge Exalt and you gift him an 8 lantern tool, now you can summon King Crucible with just the 6 knock lore and your exalt.

Or if you have a Grail exalt and you gift them an 8 Forge tool, now you can summon Ezeem with just 6 knock lore and your exalt.

When you only need lore+1 follower to summon, you get a great way to burn influences like dread or fascination.

In conclusion: tools of other aspects are awesome.

[goblingrin]

Moth cult, Edge disciple (5) with one healed Edge scar (+2), gifted with Furious Silver (+3).

Result: Moth cult with an Assassin (according to the message that came up when I sent him on cult business).

Rites? I don't use them. :P

[Victor66]

Originally posted by goblingrin:

Moth cult, Edge disciple (5) with one healed Edge scar (+2), gifted with Furious Silver (+3).

Result: Moth cult with an Assassin (according to the message that came up when I sent him on cult business).

Rites? I don't use them. :P

If you don't use rites, you're never going to finish the game, as you need a rite to do that.
Also, summons are more powerful then your cultists.

[lordcrekit]

if you get the right scar type and also a +12 tool you can probably get a follower to +10

[DizzyLizard]

Originally posted by cecoates:

Gifting tools to boost their natural aspect seems like a waste, but tools of another aspect are a great way to set yourself up with specific followers that can help with your summons.

Since every summons requires 2 of something, you can, let's say, gift an 8 edge tool to your key.

Suddenly, now all you need is 1 lore of specific strength and your key to summon a Hint, Percussigant, or Maid-in-the-Mirror.

Scars can help, sure, but you can only get knock, edge, and winter. If you have a Forge Exalt and you gift him an 8 lantern tool, now you can summon King Crucible with just the 6 knock lore and your exalt.

Or if you have a Grail exalt and you gift them an 8 Forge tool, now you can summon Ezeem with just 6 knock lore and your exalt.

When you only need lore+1 follower to summon, you get a great way to burn influences like dread or fascination.

In conclusion: tools of other aspects are awesome.

i tend to give one the lv 8 edge tool and the other the lv 8 moth tool for + 2 respectly.

one becomes able to toolbox any edge summon i need, the other can vomit out raw profets to make evidence a non-issue forever.

it especaly helps that you never need more than 2 edge/moth for anything thus the bullet/doll is a fine tool if needed.

[Skilvrel]

I gift tools to my followers because I'm a good cult leader who want to reward my loyal followers...

but yeah. Unless you're gifting cross aspected tools of at least level 2, there is almost no mechanical benefit to gifting anything to your followers. Even resentment seems a nonissue. Through all my many descents, I've had someone become resentful of me once.